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Post by 1dell on Apr 3, 2004 10:53:22 GMT -5
I can agree with this to a point, but can't follow it all the way. I would rather concentrate on where we agree than disagree because it's time we start building and forsake the destroying. No only was the man and his woman expelled from the garden, so too was N'kash. I spoke earlier about KHawah being seduced by N'kash and then her son by Khata'ah. IHaWaH says somethign significant to Qayin when in the passage where we first hear about Khata'ah: [shadow=red,left,300]If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee [shall be] his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.[/shadow] I am perplexed by this statement "And unto you shall be his desire" The very fact that IHaWaH said "and thou shalt rule over him" Let's me know that he is supposed to be fullfilling the part of the woman's seed "and you shall rule over him" means you shall be the Head of him, Head is synonomous with Rulership. Like the Law that states you shall not roudn the corner of your HEADS nor mar the edges of your BEARD. Funny how that law aint even talkign about facial hair but jews all over the word lack the innerstanding. So what happens between Qayin and Khata'ah is that Qayin eventually succumbs to Khata'ah and his RULERSHIP/HEAD is crushed by Khata'ah as a result. See here is why I say the seed encompasses everyone and eventually takes up to Messiah. Because Khata'ah came and prevailed against all of The Messiahs in the bible, and they ALL succumbed to it. And thus went down the royal blood line until she approached Ishua who in all ways as men are tempted was not overcome by the Khata'ah. Therefore his Rulership/Head prevailed. Thats what it means by the first shall be last (the end/the tail/the foot) and the first (the head) shall be last. All the other Messiahs came before messiah they were first but they are the foot that was crushed. Khata'ah prevailed/ruled/headed all of them, But Ishua crushed that head. So much so that HaShatan himself had to tempt him but came up wanting. Also too something else significant is when IHaWaH tells Qayin "to you shall be his desire" He told Adam the same thing about Eve. I don't feel like getting into that now though. It was EVE who was tricked and listen to the Serpent Nakhas, her child CAIN had also hearken to the Spirit Force called SIN that is to say ZUEN (Moon GOD). That makes him the offspring or seed of the Moon GOD, SIN insomuchas, he took after their likeness. This was CAIN's religion, which is encompassed in this seal Later the MOON GOD became known in Arabic as 'ALLAH' and in EGYPT as 'YAH'. YAHWEH is short for YAH-MOON and WEH-SUN. |
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Post by 1dell on Apr 3, 2004 10:58:12 GMT -5
 No Derek say it aint so!!! Did you just say N'kash is Qayin's father? Biological? MAN!!! all that typing I just did when you were accusing me of saying that same thing, now you change up on me? You said Adam was his father and then went to the verse and everythang. But yeah I agree with the rest of what you said. Maybe that is the out come of IHaWaH saying that Qayin would rule over Sin. Two different and distinct seeds, were CAIN and SETH. Cain was offspring of Nakhas. Nakhas fathered Cain's lineage teaching them how to build cities, and be artificers of metals. As far as Seth is concern, it is written that Hawwah (EVE) said Seth is 'acher' different seed. (Gen 4:25)
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Post by 1dell on Apr 3, 2004 11:01:00 GMT -5
Yeah bro, and I thought I was the weasel. And I am WeAsEl = We As EL, we are the embassadors of EL Wait a sec! hold up, rewind! Aint that what I said and you said it was incorrect. Derrick you first said Cain was Adam's seed now I think you're coming 'round and saying cain is the seed of a N'kash, a moon deitiy. All N'kashim [iah] are moon/lunar deities. Which brings us to the orders of cherubims/seraphims - the brass serpents from the B'nei Elohim order. According to the NT story, it was the cherubims who broke rank and descended to mate with the bathAdam (daughters of man). |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 11:01:35 GMT -5
You noticed also he done flipflopped No Derek say it aint so!!! Did you just say N'kash is Qayin's father? Biological? MAN!!! all that typing I just did when you were accusing me of saying that same thing, now you change up on me? You said Adam was his father and then went to the verse and everythang. But yeah I agree with the rest of what you said. Maybe that is the out come of IHaWaH saying that Qayin would rule over Sin. |
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Post by Master-9 on Apr 3, 2004 11:48:26 GMT -5
It is scripture is already clear as to who fathered CAIN, it says ADAM 'knew' EVE and she gave birth to a male child named CAIN. Two different and distinct seeds, were CAIN and SETH. Cain was offspring of Nakhas. Nakhas fathered Cain's lineage teaching them how to build cities, and be artificers of metals. As far as Seth is concern, it is written that Hawwah (EVE) said Seth is 'acher' different seed. (Gen 4:25) Kah and 1Dell are you saying he changed his mind? |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Apr 3, 2004 11:55:44 GMT -5
looks like it cousin  Kah and 1Dell are you saying he changed his mind? |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 11:56:01 GMT -5
lol!!! yea, them be the flipfloppin statements from derrick Kah and 1Dell are you saying he changed his mind? |
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Post by 1dell on Apr 3, 2004 12:31:23 GMT -5
Yeah but I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe it was a mistake, maybe he was drinking, maybe he was in a rush or something. I ain't gonna celebrate just yet. Derek is too smart to make such an obvious contradiction. I will let him explain himself before I through it up in his face about this. But then again too we are all learning. Heck just 2 years ago I used to go around saying that Satan slept with Eve and Cain was their son. That could very well be true for all I know. I just see too much evidence pro and con that argument to where I would rather stay on the side of neutrality for right now since that information is not given and focus on the info that IS given. I wish we could all study together rather than against each other. There are some brilliant minds up in this place and Derek is one of them Kah and 1Dell are you saying he changed his mind? |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Apr 3, 2004 12:35:25 GMT -5
all i can say is yall confusin the ish outta me.. i feel like you are making a point and then when i get it you change up and go the other direction.. at this point i dont know which end is up.
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Post by KnaxemDead on Apr 3, 2004 12:47:28 GMT -5
Wait a sec! hold up, rewind! Aint that what I said and you said it was incorrect. Derrick you first said Cain was Adam's seed now I think you're coming 'round and saying cain is the seed of a N'kash, a moon deities. All N'kashim [iah] are moon/lunar deities. Which brings us to the orders of cherubims/seraphims - the brass serpents from the B'nei Elohim order. According to the NT story, it was the cherubims who broke rank and descended to mate with the bathAdam (daughters of man). What I'm implying is that the Spirit Force ZUEN (SIN) 'fathered' Qayin-ites, as in nurtured it's civilization. So their mental faculty was controlled by ZUEN (Gen 4:7). What I gotten from you KAH, is implying Nakhas is the 'biological father of CAIN.' That much is not substantiated by the Holy Bible. Eve was not made in the likeness of the ELOHIM, ADAM was. Gen 3:22 in part... And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:
LORD GOD Yhwh Elohim is referring to ANU as speaking. Lo, BEHOLD which is to be 'Astonished' , in hebrew this passage you see the word MAN that word is ADAM (Adapa) translators once again failed to show us this, they took upon themselves to substituted it with MAN hebrew ISH. ADAM is as one of us (Anunnaqi) he knows GOOD from EVIL.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 12:50:13 GMT -5
hey courtney, its called babelling. Its a curse in the bible; a doctrine where one tenet contradicts another.  all i can say is yall confusin the ish outta me.. i feel like you are making a point and then when i get it you change up and go the other direction.. at this point i dont know which end is up. |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 12:53:54 GMT -5
Come on Derrick, you mean to tell me all this time you took to figure out how am I gonna psych these dudes by reconciling my contradiction ? I must manipulate the english language and come up wit something to make it appear there were no contradictions in my statement and this is all you came up wit ? And yes I stand firm by my statement N'kash fathered Cain. Stay tuned for some more revealing info I will drop on y'all! What I'm implying is that the Spirit Force ZUEN (SIN) 'fathered' Qayin-ites, as in nurtured it's civilization. So their mental faculty was controlled by ZUEN (Gen 4:7). What I gotten from you KAH, is implying Nakhas is the 'biological father of CAIN.' That much is not substantiated by the Holy Bible. Eve was not made in the likeness of the ELOHIM, ADAM was. Gen 3:22 in part... And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:
LORD GOD Yhwh Elohim is referring to ANU as speaking. Lo, BEHOLD which is to be 'Astonished' , in hebrew this passage you see the word MAN that word is ADAM (Adapa) translators once again failed to show us this, they took upon themselves to substituted it with MAN hebrew ISH. ADAM is as one of us (Anunnaqi) he knows GOOD from EVIL.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 13:01:49 GMT -5
Derrick, I explained this before. Eve had her first child [cain] outside the garden thus fulfilling Gen 1.28 command of being fruitful (specifically the birth of seth is the fulfillment). It is also written those who were to be fruitful were made in the image of Elohim [ref., gen 1.27] and were called Adamites. According to the first genesis chp. The woman was considered an Adam. Also refer to Gen 5 chp. Basically gen 5chp. takes up where Gen 1.27 left off at. I will use the next post to explain who ANU is and where he is found in the bible. What I'm implying is that the Spirit Force ZUEN (SIN) 'fathered' Qayin-ites, as in nurtured it's civilization. So their mental faculty was controlled by ZUEN (Gen 4:7). What I gotten from you KAH, is implying Nakhas is the 'biological father of CAIN.' That much is not substantiated by the Holy Bible. Eve was not made in the likeness of the ELOHIM, ADAM was. Gen 3:22 in part... And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:
LORD GOD Yhwh Elohim is referring to ANU as speaking. Lo, BEHOLD which is to be 'Astonished' , in hebrew this passage you see the word MAN that word is ADAM (Adapa) translators once again failed to show us this, they took upon themselves to substituted it with MAN hebrew ISH. ADAM is as one of us (Anunnaqi) he knows GOOD from EVIL.
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Post by KnaxemDead on Apr 3, 2004 13:05:28 GMT -5
Derek writes, "Nakhas fathered Cain's lineage teaching them how to build cities, and be artificers of metals. "
My argument from jump was Nakhas was not the biological father of CAIN; however, Nakhas (Zuen) did father the civilization headed by CAIN. If you look at those accomplishments, you wonder where that particular knowledge of 'building a city' all the way up to 'artificer of brass and iron '. That knowledge came from ZUEN also pronounced as SIN.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 13:32:36 GMT -5
Who is ANU ? He is a serpent of the Seraph order; the Ben Elohim.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
See where it says "US" , that is ANU. Here is the hebrew...
Gen 1:26 Waimar Elohim n'asah Adam batsalemanu qidamuthanu wiradu badagath h'yam waboph h'shamayam wababehemah wabaqol-ha'erets wababol-haremesh ha'remesh al-ha'erets .
Two words to pay attn to : B'tsalem-anu and qidamuth-anu which means "in US image" and "US likeness". The affx "anu" is from the hebrew nun,vau [nu]. And it brings us to EmmANUel , the name of Jesus. I can break that down if you like.
[sorry for taking so long, my hebrew is rusty so it took me a while to type up the gen 1.26 in hebrew]
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