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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 13:47:43 GMT -5
Derrick, I hope I aint goin too fast here for you (after all , I am a psonix). N'kash was a priest from the serpent priesthood in the cities of refuge (which is dubiously referred to as the Nod). You can read bout the cities of refuge in Numbers 35th chp. One particular serpent N'kash [Zuen , sin, Enki, Jibril, Gabriel, Lucifer, and a host of other names] defected from the cipher of priests that had oversite on that apportioned land for sanctuary and refuge. This is where we get our story of the rebellion in heaven (actually it was a prison house in heaven where the rebellion took place). The original serpents are called SERAPHS. N'KASH were your rebels or the CHERUBS who kept not their first estate. According to law, the man slayer (cain) can flee to the city of refuge (nod) which is what cain did. The LEVITES R those priests who control Nod; hence the levitical order called the LEVI-ATHAN (serpents/seraphims). They determin and adjuticate if the slayer is to be judged and returned to the pursuer for vengeance. Remember when Cain said, those that will find me shall kill me ? He was being pursued and this goes into the war between the woman's seed and N'kash seed. I'll tackle that in another posting. You follow ? Derek writes, "Nakhas fathered Cain's lineage teaching them how to build cities, and be artificers of metals. " My argument from jump was Nakhas was not the biological father of CAIN; however, Nakhas (Zuen) did father the civilization headed by CAIN. If you look at those accomplishments, you wonder where that particular knowledge of 'building a city' all the way up to 'artificer of brass and iron '. That knowledge came from ZUEN also pronounced as SIN.
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Post by KnaxemDead on Apr 3, 2004 13:59:32 GMT -5
I am not in the mood to distract the conversation on getting to arguments concerning WHO IS ANU?We can actually save that for another topic.
Getting back to establishing two distinctions between seeds bore by the wife of ADAM, called EVE (Hawwah),The Bible tells us that Cain and Abel were not the only descendants of Adam and Eve. Genesis 5:4 says that later Adam begot more sons and daughters. But Cain and Abel stand out from the other descendants because they represent the two manners of life. One manner of life begins with "gain," and the other manner of life begins with "vanity." From Cain and Abel two lines on this earth developed and two different realms were produced. The first realm, from the line of Cain, is the realm of SIN (Moon God). The second realm, from the line of Abel, who was replaced by Seth as the Path of the Righteous (Tsadiq,Zodok). These two realms are always struggling and fighting against each other. Here is analogy by using the names revealed in CAIN's Lineage of Chapter 4 of Genesis. Cain's line is very productive, and everything on Cain's line moves quickly. We see this also with the name of Enoch's son, Irad. The name "Irad" means "rapid" or "fast." "Cain" means "gain." Cain begot Enoch, "learned." Then Enoch begot Irad, "fast." Everything on the worldly line, everything gained and learned on the line of knowledge, comes quickly. The meaning of Methushael is "man of God." For some reason, out of God's combating, a man of God was born.God's combating seemingly produced a man of God in the wrong line. However, we must see that Cain's descendants never departed from the line of knowledge, which belongs to Zuen. If we continue down the line of Cain's descendants we eventually come to Lamech. "Lamech" means "powerful" and "overthrowing." Lamech represents the outcome of Cain's line. He was a wild and evil man. Lamech murdered a man and then boasted to his wives, "…<br>Mehujael's name means "God is combating." The name "Mehujael" indicates that God was struggling with the human beings on this line. God wanted to remind them not to go so fast. Eventually God came in and struggled with them. In Genesis chapter four the line of Cain ends with Lamech and his three sons. Human civilization in its entirety developed from Lamech's descendants. Lamech's first son was Jabal, which means "moving." Jabal was "the father of those who dwell in tents and raise cattle" (Gen. 4:20). Jabal's life was for making a living. Lamech's second son was Jubal, which means "playing." Jubal was "the father of all those who play the lyre and pipe" (v. 21). He was a musician and his life was for entertainment. Lamech's third son was Tubalcain. His name seems to mean "coppersmith." Tubalcain was "the forger of every cutting instrument of bronze and iron" (v. 22). He designed weapons for self-defense. These are the three sons of Lamech.
The line of Cain resulted in Lamech, and from Lamech came human civilization. With Lamech's sons we see the three things which dominate the human race. Jabal signifies making a living, Jubal signifies making our lives enjoyable, and Tubalcain signifies defending ourselves and attacking others. This is what makes up the existence of the world. The outcome of the line of Cain was three separate lines of human existence. Whatever we do in the world belongs to one of these three lines. Whatever we study, or gain, or pursue in the world eventually will bring us to one of these three sons of Lamech. Making a living, entertainment, and self-defense are the controlling elements of human existence. Modern culture and society came from the sons of Lamech. This is significant, because Lamech was a murderer. When it is without God the human race is a killing race. Human history is just a history of killing. In principle this is true throughout society. In universities, in businesses, in professions, people are filled with competition. People think, "For me to survive, you must die." They "kill" one another to get ahead and even boast in their success. This is because human culture is the product of the line of Cain. HENCE, "RAISING CAIN"
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Post by KnaxemDead on Apr 3, 2004 14:11:08 GMT -5
Genesis 3:15 Hatred will be set between woman's seed, offspring Cain and Abel, Cain will strike Abel's head. Abel will strike at Heel of Cain's foot. Paraphrased by Derek
Kah writes, "He was being pursued and this goes into the war between the woman's seed and N'kash seed."
You slowly but surely coming right over to what I've been teaching all along KAH. That the Hatred was set between woman's two seeds, offspring Cain and Abel, who Seth was appointed to commensate for Abel. It followed right down onto the descendants till Cainites had perished during the flood, according to the Book of Enoch and The book of Jubilees.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 14:12:07 GMT -5
What you said here is on point and "agreeable".
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 14:17:08 GMT -5
Dude, "slowly but surely" ? Why would you think this is new to me ? Can I make an observation and its a critique. I notice this with alot of nuwaubians and former nuwaubians. When ever they come across a non-nuwaubian who has a form of knowledge similar to theirs, they seem perplexed as if people should not know what they [nuwaubians/former nuwaubians] know prior to them coming to the knowledge of knowing what it is they know! (thats alot of knows there ;-) ). My brother, the world is BIG and HUGE. There are many out there who are acquainted wit mysteries. Genesis 3:15 Hatred will be set between woman's seed, offspring Cain and Abel, Cain will strike Abel's head. Abel will strike at Heel of Cain's foot. Paraphrased by Derek Kah writes, "He was being pursued and this goes into the war between the woman's seed and N'kash seed." You slowly but surely coming right over to what I've been teaching all along KAH. That the Hatred was set between woman's two seeds, offspring Cain and Abel, who Seth was appointed to commensate for Abel. It followed right down onto the descendants till Cainites had perished during the flood, according to the Book of Enoch and The book of Jubilees.
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Post by KnaxemDead on Apr 3, 2004 14:29:02 GMT -5
Why anytime I have a good discussion, does it get made out to be a debate? I was not threaten by you in any form, KAH. I merely enjoyed this conversation, sharing portion of my light with others. I tackled the issue, tried to convey my point best I could without writing a book about it. I try to refrain from lengthy post as because there is so much to read on Illuminopolis itself already. I am sure people don't want to bother with hearing me teach upon The Holy Bible, when there is so much more I can contribute.
So Brotherly Hug rightbackatcha!
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 14:32:17 GMT -5
Hey bros. brotherly love back at ya! EACH ONE TEACH ONE. Why does it become a debate ? I dunno i guess we black folk love drama . Hey bros. alot of what you say bring back many information I'd accumulate over the yrs. and have since forgotten back into memory which is GREATLY APPRECIATED! Keep doin what you do and dont mind me if I attack you and stuff. Its jovial, not a big deal. Why anytime I have a good discussion, does it get made out to be a debate? I was not threaten by you in any form, KAH. I merely enjoyed this conversation, sharing portion of my light with others. I tackled the issue, tried to convey my point best I could without writing a book about it. I try to refrain from lengthy post as because there is so much to read on Illuminopolis itself already. I am sure people don't want to bother with hearing me teach upon The Holy Bible, when there is so much more I can contribute. So Brotherly Hug rightbackatcha!
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Post by 1dell on Apr 3, 2004 15:20:40 GMT -5
I hope to God no body brought my name up I didn't even bother to read but a few lines of this entire 18th page of the thread. But I will say this ONLY priests are aloud to offer up sacrifices. It is recorded that BOTH Qayin and H'bel offered up sacrifices one of earth growth and another of blood and flesh. The later was accepted, H'bel's priesthood met approval. We find that Qayin took after his mom and step dad who we find in the garden wearing garments of their priest hood made from fig leaves. These priestly garments were replaced by SKINS. Hmmm Where them skins come from? And IHaWaH was the one that put skins on them. There is a relation between H'bel's sacrifice being approved and his Parent's wearing skins and the reason why they didn't receive death as recompense for their sin. Do you hear the them music building? Twas because animal sacrifice was instituted as a way to replace man's punishment of death. It was then that animal sacrifice was set up as atonement for sin. I like what you were saying Kah because you are relating this acts to Torah the law of the hebrews and in doing show you are showing Derek what I have been saying all along, that the Law came before Moses and Abraham and them have been living the law before Moshe. And that the bible shows the laws that the patriarchs followed if one pays attention. Keep buildin yall
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 15:36:08 GMT -5
1dell, Im tryin to show him that but the brother is being a stubborn sa' MULE [Samu EL]. . Just messin Derrick . I hope to God no body brought my name up I didn't even bother to read but a few lines of this entire 18th page of the thread. But I will say this ONLY priests are aloud to offer up sacrifices. It is recorded that BOTH Qayin and H'bel offered up sacrifices one of earth growth and another of blood and flesh. The later was accepted, H'bel's priesthood met approval. We find that Qayin took after his mom and step dad who we find in the garden wearing garments of their priest hood made from fig leaves. These priestly garments were replaced by SKINS. Hmmm Where them skins come from? And IHaWaH was the one that put skins on them. There is a relation between H'bel's sacrifice being approved and his Parent's wearing skins and the reason why they didn't receive death as recompense for their sin. Do you hear the them music building? Twas because animal sacrifice was instituted as a way to replace man's punishment of death. It was then that animal sacrifice was set up as atonement for sin. I like what you were saying Kah because you are relating this acts to Torah the law of the hebrews and in doing show you are showing Derek what I have been saying all along, that the Law came before Moses and Abraham and them have been living the law before Moshe. And that the bible shows the laws that the patriarchs followed if one pays attention. Keep buildin yall
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Post by 1dell on Apr 3, 2004 15:42:51 GMT -5
Once upon a time white people used to pit black men against the other when we were slaves like pit bulls to watch them fight. Some times to the death. I am starting to feel like that now. We over here fighting in a ring while white people watch. fnord
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 15:47:47 GMT -5
we cannot help it mang! we iz chaos! the melanin is to blame!!!! Once upon a time white people used to pit black men against the other when we were slaves like pit bulls to watch them fight. Some times to the death. I am starting to feel like that now. We over here fighting in a ring while white people watch. fnord
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Post by KnaxemDead on Apr 3, 2004 15:54:47 GMT -5
We can speak about the Torah "LAW" if you want to make that another topic, so then we can make the distinctions between the Commandments, Ordainances, Decrees, Statues, Judgements, Customs, and Charges, how they apply and who they apply too, when they were made.
I pointed out already in my post how Noah is saiad to be Righteous (Tsadiq, Zodok Priest ) and [/b] Perfect, hebrew word is Tamim. [/b]
Lamech was concern after his wife gave birth to NOAH, because of his white brilliance surrounding him, sign of a Elohim who abducted females 'in those days', that he, himself was not the biological father. It was troubling so he consulted his father who consulted ENOCH, who sent word that it was indeed LAMECH's child. So scripture says NOAH was TAMIM COMPLETE, he had undiluted lineage that went right back to ADAM thru SETH. So I made a point to through that in although I insinuated as much earlier in my posts.
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Post by 1dell on Apr 3, 2004 16:03:07 GMT -5
Yeah man, white people use that to say that Noah was white and thereby saying that the progenitor of the races was a white man . I am familiar with that legend. We can start a new topic on that. that'll be cool We can speak about the Torah "LAW" if you want to make that another topic, so then we can make the distinctions between the Commandments, Ordainances, Decrees, Statues, Judgements, Customs, and Charges, how they apply and who they apply too, when they were made. I pointed out already in my post how Noah is saiad to be Righteous (Tsadiq, Zodok Priest ) and [/b] Perfect, hebrew word is Tamim. [/b] Lamech was concern after his wife gave birth to NOAH, because of his white brilliance surrounding him, sign of a Elohim who abducted females 'in those days', that he, himself was not the biological father. It was troubling so he consulted his father who consulted ENOCH, who sent word that it was indeed LAMECH's child. So scripture says NOAH was TAMIM COMPLETE, he had undiluted lineage that went right back to ADAM thru SETH. So I made a point to through that in although I insinuated as much earlier in my posts.[/quote]
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 16:05:19 GMT -5
1dell its substantiated in xtra biblical writings Noah was either albino or real lite. In the scrolls of enoch you will find the description of Noah. I will type it up for you.. . Yeah man, white people use that to say that Noah was white and thereby saying that the progenitor of the races was a white man . I am familiar with that legend. We can start a new topic on that. that'll be cool
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 3, 2004 16:10:17 GMT -5
1 Enoch 106:1,2 [also known as separ Noach]
1 And after some days my son, Methu-selah, took a wife for his son Lamech, and 2 she became pregnant by him and bore him a son. And his body was white as snow and red as a rose; the hair of his head as white as wool...
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