The Creation Account

[kAHANyAH]

The only way white skinned people can be a progenitor of the coloured races is if the gr8 mother were black. Which reminds me of this :

Song of Solomon 5
10 My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

Now look at the description of his mistress ...

Song of Solomon 1
5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

Now yall do know this is the story of Eve and the Serpent.

[KnaxemDead]

With a description as given in that version of THE BOOK OF ENOCH, I would be wondering who else was the father my damn self.

And his body was white as snow and red as a rose; the hair of his head as white as wool...

Although i have not personally read the aramaic version, description is either metaphoric or they just described an ALBINO, especially if he was born just like it says.

[kAHANyAH]

youre right, it seems to be a description of an albino plus its in english so the translation has to be verified. Unfortunately I dont have the aramaic version of Enoch. If you have access to it, can u post it up. Would greatly appreciate it.

KnaxemDead said:

With a description as given in that version of THE BOOK OF ENOCH, I would be wondering who else was the father my damn self.

And his body was white as snow and red as a rose; the hair of his head as white as wool...

Although i have not personally read the aramaic version, description is either metaphoric or they just described an ALBINO, especially if he was born just like it says.

[1dell]

That would be contradictory fellas, I tell you why. I don't feel like copying the verse right now but in the book of Vayikra/Leviticus it describes a person with leprosy the same way. So i am with Derek, I would need to get my hands on the actual manuscript of copy of the manuscript to get to the bottom of this, because I aint buying what they selling.

In fact we can find something similar said of Solomon in the Song of Solomon:

Sgs 5:10 My beloved [is] white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

Sgs 5:11 His head [is as] the most fine gold, his locks [are] bushy, [and] black as a raven.

THAT WORD for white is Tz'kh, www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/words/6/1081106466-7499.html

When you follow that link you will look further down the page and see the other places in the bible that use that word strong's number 6703. And look other them bastards translate it in other places:

* Clear
* Plain
* dry

It's used 4 times in scripture and NO WHERE ELSE in the places that it's used does it describe something as being white in color.

According to definition is: 1) dazzling, glowing, clear, bright

NOT WHITE. So Brilliant would be a synonym

Here is it's Tz'kh'kh where the word Tz'kh is from:

1) (Qal) to be dazzling, be aglow, glow

So based on word usage for a people who were obviously of color, I would say that there was an illuminous glow to Solomon, possibly even a sheen to him. I would venture to invest that that is the same thing being said of N'akh. You know, like that pregnant woman's glow.

Also too let me say this, when I was born I had white colored sorta yellowish thought I was gonna be light skinned. But now look at a bruva, maybe N'akh coulda been Jandous (sp)

[kAHANyAH]

what would be contradictory 1dell ?

1dell said:

That would be contradictory fellas, I tell you why. I don't feel like copying the verse right now but in the book of Vayikra/Leviticus it describes a person with leprosy the same way.

[1dell]

Sorry was in the middle of editing my previous post recheck it I put moor info in it. I am talking about the Book of Enoch would be contradictory or at least what them cats were saying about N'akh. He all leporous lookin and they calling it holy when it's against the law and he should be considered unclean.

kAH said:

what would be contradictory 1dell ?

[kAHANyAH]

not quite bros. There is a CLEAN lepros as snow. But anyhow, let me see what you got here and respond.

1dell said:

Sorry was in the middle of editing my previous post recheck it I put moor info in it. I am talking about the Book of Enoch would be contradictory or at least what them cats were saying about N'akh. He all leporous lookin and they calling it holy when it's against the law and he should be considered unclean.

[1dell]

yEAH i KNOW BRO, the clean kind is the leprosy with the Yellow hair

kAH said:

not quite bros. There is a CLEAN lepros as snow. But anyhow, let me see what you got here and respond.

[kAHANyAH]

1dell , this is why they considered Solomon red boned...

Sol 5:10, Dawudi Tsach wadum dagoul marababah

re-translation -

Sol 5:10 My David, pure and pale [to] behold amongst [the] 10,000 [saints]

I provided the [] inserts in my above translation. The reason the KJV transcribers went with the "white and ruddy" is because of the "Adum" (ruddy) - adjective used to describe David. The hebrew writer claimed David as pure in his ruddiness. When the flesh is ruddy and clean/pure (tsach) it is to denote lightness.

1dell said:

That would be contradictory fellas, I tell you why. I don't feel like copying the verse right now but in the book of Vayikra/Leviticus it describes a person with leprosy the same way. So i am with Derek, I would need to get my hands on the actual manuscript of copy of the manuscript to get to the bottom of this, because I aint buying what they selling.

In fact we can find something similar said of Solomon in the Song of Solomon:

Sgs 5:10 My beloved [is] white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

Sgs 5:11 His head [is as] the most fine gold, his locks [are] bushy, [and] black as a raven.

THAT WORD for white is Tz'kh, www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/words/6/1081106466-7499.html

When you follow that link you will look further down the page and see the other places in the bible that use that word strong's number 6703. And look other them bastards translate it in other places:

* Clear
* Plain
* dry

It's used 4 times in scripture and NO WHERE ELSE in the places that it's used does it describe something as being white in color.

According to definition is: 1) dazzling, glowing, clear, bright

NOT WHITE. So Brilliant would be a synonym

Here is it's Tz'kh'kh where the word Tz'kh is from:

1) (Qal) to be dazzling, be aglow, glow

So based on word usage for a people who were obviously of color, I would say that there was an illuminous glow to Solomon, possibly even a sheen to him. I would venture to invest that that is the same thing being said of N'akh. You know, like that pregnant woman's glow.

Also too let me say this, when I was born I had white colored sorta yellowish thought I was gonna be light skinned. But now look at a bruva, maybe N'akh coulda been Jandous (sp)

[1dell]

Yeah bro, I am familiar with that point. Even then you and I have our different views of Redness. So thats cool, you think red is like a red bone like Lisa Ray and thangs. I think Red is like the Redskin on the Washington Redskin's helmet where the indian on their helmet is like dark brown. I am saying Red is a Lighter shade of brown. But it's all good. Tell you what, lets go to Ysra'al and Derek can go to Egypt and we can dig Solomon up and all take a look see.

You know the color of egyptians on the walls of of their temples and stuff. They are actually reddish in color.

Remeber that is the quote of a shulamite woman. She was black as the tents of Q'dar, so even a brown brutha like myself would be considered red.

But it's all good

kAH said:

1dell , this is why they considered Solomon red boned...

Sol 5:10, Dawudi Tsach wadum dagoul marababah

re-translation -

Sol 5:10 My David, pure and pale [to] behold amongst [the] 10,000 [saints]

I provided the [] inserts in my above translation. The reason the KJV transcribers went with the "white and ruddy" is because of the "Adum" (ruddy) - adjective used to describe David. The hebrew writer claimed David as pure in his ruddiness. When the flesh is ruddy and clean/pure (tsach) it is to denote lightness.

[kAHANyAH]

LOL!! yea we can do that. .

Hey peep this bros., Notice the play on dye/color scheme in the Songs of song. The Shulamite is described white and ruddy and the mistress black as tribes of qedar. Obviously the author wanted to impress an imagery of extreme colour contrast into the minds of the reader. Thats a major clue regarding the skin types of both the woman and man in the song.

Let me ask you , what are the extreme ends in skin hues on planet earth ? Better yet, what two races of people representing the greatest in skin color contrast ?

1dell said:

Yeah bro, I am familiar with that point. Even then you and I have our different views of Redness. So thats cool, you think red is like a red bone like Lisa Ray and thangs. I think Red is like the Redskin on the Washington Redskin's helmet where the indian on their helmet is like dark brown. I am saying Red is a Lighter shade of brown. But it's all good. Tell you what, lets go to Ysra'al and Derek can go to Egypt and we can dig Solomon up and all take a look see.

You know the color of egyptians on the walls of of their temples and stuff. They are actually reddish in color.

Remeber that is the quote of a shulamite woman. She was black as the tents of Q'dar, so even a brown brutha like myself would be considered red.

But it's all good

[1dell]

you mean like when you shave an animal of it's hair? That would be white then black

kAH said:

LOL!! yea we can do that. .

Hey peep this bros., Notice the play on dye/color scheme in the Songs of song. The Shulamite is described white and ruddy and the mistress black as tribes of qedar. Obviously the author wanted to impress an imagery of extreme colour contrast into the minds of the reader. Thats a major clue regarding the skin types of both the woman and man in the song.

Let me ask you , what are the extreme ends in skin hues on planet earth ? Better yet, what two races of people representing the greatest in skin color contrast ?

[kAHANyAH]

yea!! LOL!!

1dell said:

you mean like when you shave an animal of it's hair? That would be white then black

[1dell]

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