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Post by Master-9 on May 31, 2004 8:29:47 GMT -5
Hotep, Master-9 1 John 2:19 That was on point TumRe, Thanks
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Post by Zandor on May 31, 2004 10:19:56 GMT -5
interesting post I remember Imaam Isa saying: "if you want to find fault in me ALLAH will help you find fault". Well sense you guys want fault here's a plate full for your tummy, just remember that the seal will be for life(in the case of Ralph & GTO, Satiyah doesn't have anything to seal). This is from 360 Question to ask a sunni Muslim: A close up for those who really want to see: This is from the Ansar rebuttal book: A closer look This may help you to decieve yourselves!!!! I can't wait to he is free to put yall swell-out niggers(and wanna be niggers) in place. WAR
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Post by ELTRUTH on May 31, 2004 19:57:04 GMT -5
who made him reverend? and DONT show me those little cirtificates we used to print out in the office. were did he get his DEGREE to be a reverend?
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Master-9
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Post by Master-9 on May 31, 2004 20:38:27 GMT -5
who made him reverend? and DONT show me those little cirtificates we used to print out in the office. were did he get his DEGREE to be a reverend? The LORD, man can't give that degree my child... The next question to you is why do you care?
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Post by SatiyaH on May 31, 2004 22:31:04 GMT -5
As I grew older I was nicknamed 'Dwight' after my maternal mother grandmothers (Leila Williams) fathers name because my mother's family didn't want to recongize my Arabic name.
According to York, his maternal mother Mary C. Williams (York) biological parents are Leila (American) and Bobby Williams (Sudanese Arab) a.k.a. Salah Hailik Al Ghalat. It was his grandfather Salah Hailik father to Mary C. Williams, who named him 'ISA' at birth in the first place; However, stating that in the previous paragraph, York goes onto contradict it by saying 'because my mother's family didn't want to recongize my ARABIC name.' Did you catch that? He supposedly received the name ISA from his mothers father so they indeed accepted his Arabic name. After all York claim his sudanese father family didn't want to recongize him at all let alone care what his name was. He couldn't carry the name AL Mahdi anyway, if that were his father he would be still be considered a BASTARD under Islaamic Culture and Law! BTW, He didn't legally change his name Dwight, that's still his name, he changed his alias Isa Al HaadI Al Mahdi to Malachi Zodok York, simply MZ York. Also, here is a question for Master9. Which is it, did Mary C. William marry David P. York at 16 prior to going to school in Sudan, or was it after she returned with child that she was married to David P. York?
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Post by Master-9 on May 31, 2004 23:03:58 GMT -5
Also, here is a question for Master9. Which is it, did Mary C. William marry David P. York at 16 prior to going to school in Sudan, or was it after she returned with child that she was married to David P. York? I don't know Satiyah
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Post by Master-9 on May 31, 2004 23:09:29 GMT -5
According to York, his maternal mother Mary C. Williams (York) biological parents are Leila (American) and Bobby Williams (Sudanese Arab) a.k.a. Salah Hailik Al Ghalat. It was his grandfather Salah Hailik father to Mary C. Williams, who named him 'ISA' at birth in the first place; However, stating that in the previous paragraph, York goes onto contradict it by saying 'because my mother's family didn't want to recongize my ARABIC name.' Did you catch that? He supposedly received the name ISA from his mothers father so they indeed accepted his Arabic name. Thats assumption, parts of the family may have been christian and disagreed with the arab side of the family. Also York's family has a lot of Moorish ties. The York's(at the request of the Anderson Lodge Worshipful Master) in Baton Rouge helped my mother move to Atlanta before I was born.
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Post by Master-9 on May 31, 2004 23:11:28 GMT -5
BTW, He didn't legally change his name Dwight, that's still his name, he changed his alias Isa Al HaadI Al Mahdi to Malachi Zodok York, simply MZ York. Satiyah, do you have a certified copy of his original issued birth certificate from Boston?
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Post by SatiyaH on May 31, 2004 23:30:42 GMT -5
Master9 writes, "Thats assumption, parts of the family may have been christian and disagreed with the arab side of the family."
No, actually what you said is the assumpation.
Why I ask is because the certificate states David P. York as the 'father' and his age as 20. Since, it was made known that David P. York was born in 1916 - died 1991. That would put him at 29 when York was born in 1945. So if you have an answer for that please share it.
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Post by Master-9 on Jun 1, 2004 8:12:04 GMT -5
Master9 writes, "Thats assumption, parts of the family may have been christian and disagreed with the arab side of the family." No, actually what you said is the assumpation. Why I ask is because the certificate states David P. York as the 'father' and his age as 20. Since, it was made known that David P. York was born in 1916 - died 1991. That would put him at 29 when York was born in 1945. So if you have an answer for that please share it. Just because a man's name is on a birth certificate, doesn't mean he is the biological father, my assumption is just as good as your assumtion
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Post by Ralph on Jun 1, 2004 8:14:41 GMT -5
Then why falsify a legal document?
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Post by Master-9 on Jun 1, 2004 8:44:57 GMT -5
Then why falsify a legal document? It is done all the time in black families, don't act you don't know
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Post by Ralph on Jun 1, 2004 12:04:39 GMT -5
It is done all the time in black families, don't act you don't know I was taught in my family to obey the law. I learned the hard way that youshould obey the law. So are you stating that York Falsified the docs???
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Post by SatiyaH on Jun 1, 2004 16:08:02 GMT -5
My point is the discrepancy with David P. York's age. On York's birth certificate he is age 20, a year younger than Mary C. York. According to Let's Set the Record Straight (Revised Edition) York has David P. York as being born in 1916, that would make him 29.
Biggest problem was Mary C. William-York was not a DNA descendant of Ben York. It was through David P. York that Cheif Black Thunderbird Eagle claims direct descendancy. Inspite of his early acknowledgement of his sudanese father Al Haadi, in the late 90's he merely acknowledged Al Haadi as a 'spiritual father'. Once this mistake was brought to his attention realizing that would forfeit his claims of being an Indian Chief. His mother had to be somehow related to Ben York and A Native American. So York rectified this by no longer calling David P. York a "Portegeuse" he simply became a Boston Massachutte Moor. As he innovated a chart Mary C. William-York was second cousin to David. That too is plagued with discrepancies. The New Chart has Mary C. William-York as first cousin to David.
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Post by GTOM on Jun 1, 2004 18:30:19 GMT -5
I didnt know what it was, I thought it was a charter. it looked all nice on the wall, My bad... but it was the same Signature I don't have to but I will... There is no charter on the store wall but rather an acceptance certificate stating that the owner of that store was crossed and accepted into the Al Mahdi Shrine. GTO didn't know what he was looking at, a simple mistake.
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