York Is Still The Greatest Teacher

[observer]

Master-9 said:

I appriciate that positive story SatiyaH, may the Most High continue to guide you and your family.

Anyone know who the man sitting to York's right is in this picture?

[Hathor]

To: GTO Messiah

"Wrong. I've never been with York in that
manner. I've visited the land several times and
had the opportunity to meet Him. It was an honor.
I was so fascinated with His books and knowledge
that I would have spent any time with Him questioning
His doctrines. I wouldn't had made time for sex
with Him because according to His teachings, He
has extraterrestial involvement which would had
made me quite cautious about being alone with Him.
Even if the whole nation of women was 'doing it', I
would have only wanted to know and have shown
to me 'proof' of the many things which He wrote about.
For the life of me, I just can't see how these women
just went along with whatever York said without
questioning His logic. I question everything till this
day and that is why I am dislike whenever I would
attend the Nuwaubians classes. Yorks' information
interests me a whole lot, for I've been studying His
line of books all of my life, (30 plus years). I have
three children whom I've raised by myself and I was
and am very protected of them and they have never
been molested by any one. I kept an close eye on
my children always and a close eye on their behavior
patterns, because I do not trust anyone whom I
haven't spent years observing. I do not trust the
teachers who even teach schools where I send my
children too, but in a system which we have not
created perse, one has to make decisions and hope
that all goes well. My ancestors have blessed me
greatly in protecting me and my children. One is 20,
one is 12 and one is 9. I was planning to move on
the land in Georgia, then all of this 'stuff' came to
light. This 'stuff' is not new to me, for I study things
along this line. There are Many Societies where
such things as mentioned in the case, does happen.
If these things did happen in this case, all of these
particular women were 'down' with it. It is impossible
that all of this happened for all those years and
those women mentioned did not know. My point of
view is that they knew and went along with it for
'salvation' purposes and since many things Did Not
go Their Way, they plotted and plotted and lied and
lied and broke vows and oaths and now we have this
huge Mess! Now all parties just want to point the
finger at York and take no responsibility for their own
ignorance. I do trust that York came with a message
from extraterrestials, and the people should had only
been interested in that message and not with what
he walks with inbetween His legs. I know how
women flirt and go after men; we see this all the time.
They will go to any length to seduce and entrap the
opposite sex. All of these women played their part
in this terrible tragedy. It's a tragedy because it
was great and could have grown to something so
mighty and glorious that the entire world would have
looked at our race in an entirely different light. Yet,
for the few, who didn't get His Message nor overstood
His teachings, this is all that we are left with. The
nation of Nuwaubians fell all because of sex and
money. Mainly sex. All because of women playing
on one anothers emotions. You argue back and forth
that York has copied things from other people books
and so forth...So What? The europeans have done
worse things and you say nothing. You all are so
quick to kill each others character, yet, say nothing
against the europeans and their wicked character.
Till this very moment, you hold their race up high and
live according to it, never willing to grow your own.
York started a way for us as a nation to grow our own.
To mind our own business. To mind our own minds.
He did not have all of the answers, but He certainly
had enough people around Him to assist Him if they
weren't so busy being lustful, if indeed any of these
stories that we are hearing are true. Why any one
would do such things and then tell the whole world
is beyond my comprehension. If I wanted change
within that society, I would have talked to York over
and over again. I would have NEVERED went along
with having other people raising my children. I would
have moved off the land and lived near-by and
continued to Let My Voice Be Heard, as I do till this
day. I am very unhappy about this whole thing. It
could had been beautiful, just as Marcus Garveys'
dream and Malcolm Xs' dream could have been
beautiful, but as always, we hate on each other like
white on rice. We still hate each other and still love
the europeans more than ourselves. I've never
heard blacks talk against blacks the way I'm hearing
on this boards these days. People who have had
the opportunity to walk with York, have and are
turning on Him like crazy. Satiyah & Husband, you
don't bring anything good to the table. If you really
loved your race, you should had stayed within that
Nation and helped it to grow. But just as many, you
weren't interested in the Truth nor any of His
teachings, you all were just being Nosey. We can
never create something unless the europeans
justify it and thats fucked up. York got Beings out
side of this earth plane who has His Back. He did
not lie about that. At an appointed time, They are
going to make theirselves known, then Your Eyes
Will Be Opened. Right now, judgement in being
played out. Many will fall, many are falling, and many
will be shocked. York is who He say He is. He
did things the way He did as You were being tested.
I've studied this Science dilengently and it is a
mystery to those who aren't serious. Many weren't.
There more to come. Your goverment knows York
more than you do. They know more than what
you think. On a whole, blacks are way behind the
sciences...but, Mums the word..."

[Ralph]

theman said:

Brother I read plenty of books, thousands. Just not on the subjects that York teaches on. Most authors are not that interesting to me. Their writing style is boring and puts me to sleep. Religion was never a big interest of ine growing up until coming across York's books. the style he wrote in and the angle he presented was very different from your average teacher. He taught the importance of research and showed the mistakes of others that did not.

I do not belive his books are coming back to haunt him, I believe certain topic he spoke about he stretched the truth in some. As far as the Holy Books are concerned, he had them mastered from front to back.

I said he is the greatest teacher because he peek the interest of his students, such as my self. Though I never sat at his feet, i was able to learn many things from afar. I also learned about other authors through his writings, authors I would have never gave a second glance to.

many of these authors aren;t teachers, they are just writers. because you can write does not mean you an pass the knowledge on to others to learn, York could and he did.

If you feel different tell me some other authors who you would consider great teachers.

Religion is usually not a big thing to many until they grow older. I thought Elijah could do not wrong when I was in the NOI back in the early 70s, boy was I wrong. Supporting his azz by buying his books and givin my hard earned dollars to the Temple. After I left the NOI, I had a high school job in the Newark Public library. So I listened to plenty of Stevie Wonder and Blue Magic and read!!
Inspiration? Kahlil Gibran. I named my oldest son after him 19 years ago:http://www.columbia.edu/~gm84/gibtable.html
leb.net/gibran/
That worked for me, but I can understand that people have different things that motivate them. My motivation was Black History. Reading the books by J.A. Rogers, books concerning Reconstruction and the Civil War:
www.au.af.mil/au/aul/bibs/afhist/afciv.htm
Any kind of scholarly book that I can tell others to read. The worst thing is to be in a conversation and not being able to contribute. York was a great teacher to some, but the greatest teacher to me is still my father...

[theman]

observer said:

Anyone know who the man sitting to York's right is in this picture?

That is his brother. Oba or something like that.

[theman]

Ralph said:

Religion is usually not a big thing to many until they grow older. I thought Elijah could do not wrong when I was in the NOI back in the early 70s, boy was I wrong. Supporting his azz by buying his books and givin my hard earned dollars to the Temple. After I left the NOI, I had a high school job in the Newark Public library. So I listened to plenty of Stevie Wonder and Blue Magic and read!!
Inspiration? Kahlil Gibran. I named my oldest son after him 19 years ago:http://www.columbia.edu/~gm84/gibtable.html
leb.net/gibran/
That worked for me, but I can understand that people have different things that motivate them. My motivation was Black History. Reading the books by J.A. Rogers, books concerning Reconstruction and the Civil War:
www.au.af.mil/au/aul/bibs/afhist/afciv.htm
Any kind of scholarly book that I can tell others to read. The worst thing is to be in a conversation and not being able to contribute. York was a great teacher to some, but the greatest teacher to me is still my father...

Much respect to that. Hopefully when my son grows up he can say the same about me. unfortunately for me my father passed away when I was very young so I never got the chance to really appreciate the knowledge he had to give. I came across York's teaching at 19. On the subject he teaches I feel he is the best at it. I am a computer engineer so I study computer and math books most of the time and they have some very dynamoic teachers in those fields also. Then in business there are ever more great teachers. In his field he was the best. then again that is my opinion and like assholes we all have one and they stink. LOL

[Ralph]

theman said:

Much respect to that. Hopefully when my son grows up he can say the same about me. unfortunately for me my father passed away when I was very young so I never got the chance to really appreciate the knowledge he had to give. I came across York's teaching at 19. On the subject he teaches I feel he is the best at it. I am a computer engineer so I study computer and math books most of the time and they have some very dynamoic teachers in those fields also. Then in business there are ever more great teachers. In his field he was the best. then again that is my opinion and like assholes we all have one and they stink. LOL

Thanks for your quick response. I rebelled against my father when I was in high school, but I had a high school teacher who I gravitated to. He was a black belt in Karate, a Golden Gloves Champ, and he played Basketball,football and baseball. I made the varsity as a sophmore in baseball, was all city that year. The next year I was cut from the team due to my attitude. It was this same teacher who pulled me aside and asked me how BAD I wanted to play baseball. He talked my way back on to the team, and I ended up being the ace that year and my senior year.
This same teacher gave me a talk about the religion that I was practicing and also told me that I needed to bond more with my father. For that I will always have a respect for this man. His name is Larry Hazzard and he is the Boxing commissioner for the State of New Jersey....

[BalkisII]

Depending on their loyalty to him or the doctrine, is where you would find them. Those that were loyal to the doctrine, were working their gluteous off generally from 8-9:00 A.M. until 12 Midnight, or 1, 2 or 3:00 A.M., depending on their job, or the rush for the work, 7 days a week, 365 day per YEAR for 14 YEARS STRAIGHT!!!

dell1972 said:

Where were their parents?

[Master-9]

Is anybody(black) else doing something close to this

[ELTRUTH]

theman said:

does any of the adults (meaning anyone over 18) get any blame? The sad thing about this is many of the people involved or living on the land came from broken homes, with no father around and now he has help to create 200 or more so black individuals with no father around, so the cycle will continue.

El truth I read on another posat whereyou stated he also had strong minded people under him. I really can't believe that because any strong m,inded individual would not stand for that. I don't mena stubburn individual. Being stubborn and strong-mind or willed is 2 different things. I say that because I view myself as a strong minded individual and I would never allow anything such thing as u have describe to happen to me or anyone I know. Satiyah also appears (I say appears because i do not know her) to be a strong minded individual and her relationship with York was 'cool' as she says. GTOMessiah is another one. IU hear alot of anger in your post and rightfully os if these thing took place, but my question is could some of that anger you are displaying directed towards yourself? I ask that because u seem to have been a witness to many of these events

Being I never lived in the community and my only contact with york was through his books, my impression of the situation was very cloudy. Wehen I looked at the newspapers from Savior's day, it appears everyone was chilling, living high off the hog. I thought he built a school because it was stated in the magazine about the new school he built. With 476 acres of land I thought everyone was doing the damn thing. I mean he bragged about having all of these things, why would I question it. I am figuring if he is lying then someone would say so. The only people that said he was lying was people who didn't live there. So who was I to say he was lying, from what I saw it was true.

Not to get off the topic but you have to be a women with low self esteen to have children with a man that already has over 20 kids, let alone 200.

what i said is that he liked strong minded people- it was more of a challenge. i think i see were u are going with this post- and im not going there with u- what i have ALWAYS stated is that my intention are to bring up certain TRUTHS that people on the land dont address. the people who post he is innocent are people who never lived around him. the people who have lived around him are either STILL keeping the lie- HAVE come foward with the truth, some STILL JUST waking up to reality , and very few who didnt know , or didnt know to what extent. my mentionings are of my surroundings. u said if he was liying someone would say so- what SCHOOL did he say was built that YOU went and saw? people on the land didnt not have outside contact - and wasnt soppsoed to have- so what u want someone to personally call u and tell u something? there are alot of people who feed his hype- some didnt know all there is to know about him - some did. u say you are a man of reserch and read thousands of books- did U inform anyone of the 2 cases back in the 60's were he plead guilty to statatory rape? like i said to m9 - ill say to u - again- my friend- u wouldnt BEGIN to understand much less OVERSTAND (not a nuwaubian word- its rastafarian) unless u was there and lived the life and the reasons. there are many people who say they wouldnt have done this or that- but they are going off of beliefs untill they live the life- confronted with the sitaution and respond accordingly. and anger at myself- yeah angered i wasted my life on bullshit and found out it was bullshit- so im telling others so they dont waste theirs. but its like christians or any other religion- if your brought up in it - u think its the truth and the light- like im sure if u were brought up a christian - u didnt question your grandmother about the color of jesus she had on the wall. u just accepted it - like your mom, and her mom, and so on and so forth. do u blame your mother for beliving in the religion her mother taught her? if your on a medication and u find out its the wrong one- do u get mad at the pharmacist who filled your presriction- or the doctor who wrote the wrong prescription and should have known better?
and i think u have it all mixed up-u dont need low self esteem to have kids by a man who already has a bunch- if u are into a doctrine that teaches polygamy. with the muslin and both bible- they had polygamy and many kids. i dont know what era of time u started reading- but if your are from the ansaar days- u would know. me personally ive seen first hand - how baised and doubles standards and dogs the woman polygamy is- so i am not into it- but then this forum ISNT about me.

[GTOM]

Hiphop artist aint the problem. Cointelpro is back in effect.

dell1972 said:

DREALLAH
I am against anyone that rape children!
I been counseling children for more than 18 years
I have seen children change from each generation.
You need to beatdown some of this hiphop artists
A lot of these rapper are bisexual
Some of these hip-hop artists are raping boys and girls.

[GTOM]

Not at this level but there are other groups out there that study the exact same thing. And by the exact same thing I mean Islam and Egyptology with a mixture of what ever sounds clever.

www.fahamme-isiselamun.com/

Master-9 said:

Is anybody(black) else doing something close to this

[CoUrTnEy]

they are parading around in egyptian garb.. big deal!! you should've posted pics of them doing community service.. that would've made more of a point than those silly pictures you posted instead.

[SatiyaH]

Master-9 said:

Is anybody(black) else doing something close to this

How is that helping to liberate you?

[ELTRUTH]

SatiyaH said:

How is that helping to liberate you?

that is showing them play follower the leader and that they defend him with their own lives!

[Master-9]

CoUrTnEy said:

they are parading around in egyptian garb.. big deal!! you should've posted pics of them doing community service.. that would've made more of a point than those silly pictures you posted instead.

Those are already posted in the Nuwaupia area...Thank you very much