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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 19, 2004 19:53:40 GMT -5
sorry bruh. aint nothing new (well maybe to you) here. Ive known for quite some time yah as the lunar deity. There is quite much I know pertaining to mysteries that I havent even begun to speak on on the board. if u are so confident Israel had never learned of divinities of the nations then explain the nakash and the golden calf and there are many other examples but those two come to mind right off the bat. 1dell in all sincerity if you acknowledge there are mysteries in the bible then why is it 99.9 and 7/8th percent of what you spew is "common" knowledge and doctrine ? I mean that doesn't constitute a mystery bruh. Tell ya what, if i am in err then show and prove me. Gimme a mystery that is not common knowledge or accepted knowledge. I shall start off... Adam was a nephilim. Thats one mystery. Okay ball is in your court. Thats the best you can do bro? I give you guys too much credit. first of all the fact the egypt even used Iah or Lah as a name for one of their deities is proof that the he was known by this before Moshe knew him as this. It's funny bro cuz whenever it's convient for you you will say that moshe wrote genesis, when I remember distinctly before you said that it's no proof that moshe wrote the torah especially genesis. This back and forth stuff you do is nauseating. I agree Moshe didn't write genesis he just compiled the writings of his fathers and is accredited with writing it when he was the compiler. Perhaps got record of the events from the Midianites who were priviledged never to have been in bondage and never having lost their legacy as the hebrews did. Now this Moon God Iah or Lah which we ALL know dammit in the egyptian language is IH and could have been pronounced Eeh. Get it skraight because Thoth is the egyptian moon god. So stop playing with people and the scriptur from whence you speak that mentions IH is the Papyrus Ani: "A spell to come forth by day and live after dying. Words spoken by the Osiris Ani: O One, bright as the moon-god Iah; O One, shining as Iah; This Osiris Ani comes forth among these your multitudes outside, bringing himself back as a shining one. He has opened the netherworld. Lo, the Osiris Osiris [sic] Ani comes forth by day, and does as he desires on earth among the living."There be punctuations here but we ALL know that there didn't exist punctuations in the writ. so it would be "O one bright as the moon god Ih, O One shining as Ih" If I repunctuate this I will have some fun "O one bright as the moon, god Ih, O One shining as Ih" BLAM!!! in one eurpean translation it looks as if one is saying the moon god is IH in the other they are praying to IH who is as bright as the moon. STOP PLAYING GAMES!!! You learn somethign ONE day and in 5 minutes you are creating another doctrine off it and running with it. Here too, lets get the hyksos in the picture. Hell I am at work and need to save time. Read this:
The high point in Yah's popularity can be found following the the Middle Kingdom when many people immigrated from the Levant and the Hyksos ruled Egypt. Hence, it is likely that contact with the regions of Palestine, Syria and Babylon were important in the development of this god in Egypt. George Hart, in his "A Dictionary of Egyptian Gods and Goddesses" believes that these foreigners in Egypt may have associated Yah with the Akkadian moon-god, Sin, who had an important temple at Harron in north Syria. Like Thoth, Sin was a god of Wisdom, but his other epithets included "Brother of the Earth", Father of the Sun, Father of Gods, as well as others. Later during the New Kingdom within the Theban royal family, and not so strangely, even though it was they who expunged these foreign rulers from Egypt, the name of the god Yah was incorporated into their names. The daughter of the 17th Dynasty king, Tao I, was Yah-hotep, meaning "Yah is content". The name of the next and last ruler of the 17th Dynasty, Kamose, may have also been derived from Yah. His name means ""the bull is born", and this might be the Egyptian equivalent of the epithet applied to Sin describing him as a "young bull...with strong horns (i.e. the tips of the crescent moon). Also another interpretation of the name of the founder of the 18th Dynasty, Ahmose, is Yahmose, which would mean "Yah is born". However, this was not the only name associated with Hyksos gods to be adopted by these Egyptians
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Post by ankhenaten2 on Aug 20, 2004 5:54:56 GMT -5
That name Yahweh bodes well for the Hebrews. They are fine with it BECAUSE they consider the rest of the world heathens or goyim. And they protect the name of their god with their life and it's a law to them to NEVER let the goyim know the true name of their god. Thats why they will even substantiate the error that his name is Yahweh. LOL. Many people know this and whenever you get a Jew to agree to that pronounciation he is up to something. Only ONE TIME a year is the correct pronounciation given and that is during Yom Kippur will the Rabbis utter the name. Hell Just look at how the tetragrammaton is butchered Yahweh in one instance in even the Jew's brand of the name Jehovah. They purposely thru everyone one by playing the vowels of Adonai in there to keep the name holy and their version of keeping the name holy is by keeping the hell spawn gentiles from being able to speak his name and thereby evoking the power of their deity against them. So what most people see is a facade. I have the tomes of the most secretive hebraic magic in my corner that confirm what I speak silly mortals HOLY SHIT!!!!!
'1DELL IS FOUND WORTHY!!!!!! HE IS A MAN!!!!
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Post by 1dell on Aug 20, 2004 6:43:18 GMT -5
What most people don't get is that Abraham was a high priest just like Melkhytzedek was. They were equals. Abraham was still in babylon when he met the Most High. Abraham spoke face to face with the Most High ONLY High Priests could do that. Abraham offered sacrfices, only a priest could do that. So Melkhytzedek didn't introduce Abraham to the Most High Now this Elyon Elyon El stuff. I can't find in scripture. In fact it makes no sense. Elyon = Most High. What since does it make to say Most high Twice? Elyon Elyon El would be translated Most High Most High God? huh? Doesn't make since as if to say there is a Most High and there is a higher than Most High called Most High Most High. LOLOL. If you are the Most High, you can't get no higher. LOL. I swear I don't know WHERE York gets that stuff from. Abraham was taught my Malachi Zodoq to worship Elyown Elyown EL
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Post by 1dell on Aug 20, 2004 6:45:26 GMT -5
Quite the contrary, finally York has calibrated his teachings to agree with Scripture. You finnaly agree with Malachi Zodoq
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Post by 1dell on Aug 20, 2004 7:04:57 GMT -5
sorry bruh. aint nothing new (well maybe to you) here. Ive known for quite some time yah as the lunar deity. There is quite much I know pertaining to mysteries that I havent even begun to speak on on the board.You are right this aint nothing new these arguments are very old, very tired, and very defeated. But that doesn't negate what I said about the egyptian language to those who have an agenda they are contorting words to have them comply with doctrines in order to sell books and make loot. First of all Ahmose she is also called Yahmose by europeans. How is that kah? the name is spelled the EXACT same!!! Yah is comprised of 3 letters in ENGLISH but in the khemetan it's ONLY 2 letters. And Like I said prior the first letter is like the hebrew letter Ayin, it takes on various sounds One being A, the other being I and another being E. To those devious souls who wish to connect IHaWaH to egypt by any means necessary they have altered the spelling (mainly because scholars can't seem to agree on how the egyptian names should be spelled since it's absent of vowels) then you have this ONE woman's name with 6 letters sometimes spelled with 7 letters. Because. That too is a matter of preference. like I said before IH (which is how the word Yah is spelled here) is ALSO pronounced Eeh, the I gets a long E sound. So I am sorry, your little Yah the moon deity thing falls thru the floor.
AS for those mysteries (My stories) Yeah bro, go 'head and keep them nice and bottled up, wouldn't be nothing we could use anywayif u are so confident Israel had never learned of divinities of the nations then explain the nakash and the golden calf and there are many other examples but those two come to mind right off the bat.huh? come on bro. I know very well Ysra'al in their history longed for other gods and IHaWaH was CONSTANTLY reprimanding them for it. From Dogon, to Ishtar, to Diana. I wouldn't be a student of the bible and NOT know that. But MY point is, Just like Paul when he went to greece and saw in an grecian temple, he approached a pantheon of god and saw a spot for "the Unknown God" he then preached to those people about that God. When knowledge of a God reaches another nation, THEY fashion him to fit into their pantheon. The attributes of the God become altars, they find a way to fit it into their culture. Like the research proves, the hyksos brought knowledge of IHaWaH to egypt, now once the egyptians got their hands on that knowledge, it became tainted and now we have people like yourself and others who only go so far back into egyptian history but won't go ALL the way back befoe then to find out how all that happened. Anyway I can tell you didn't read a thing I said, now will you read this, so it's all a mute point1dell in all sincerity if you acknowledge there are mysteries in the bible then why is it 99.9 and 7/8th percent of what you spew is "common" knowledge and doctrine ? I mean that doesn't constitute a mystery bruh. Mainly because we can't even agree on the basics, the fundamentals. If we can't agree on that, why even scratch the surface of the mysteries. And personally kah, YOUR Mysteries (my stories) are just that bro, YOUR stories or yursteries. You make shit up, or you go to a niggas geocities webpage where he is pontificationg ad nauseum and it intrigues your imagination then you put your own twist on it then you want to run with it. And the stuff don't hold up.
What I know is NOT common knowledge at all bro. If it was common then we would all agree, if it was common knowledge then others would be saying what I say and I wouldn't have to correct a soul on illuminopolis.
Not to mention what is a mystery to you? Here is the mystery of the scriptures to ME, How giving 10 percent of your income to charity is the beginning of financial prosperity and freedom. How treating your enemies well will actually rid you of your enemy.
You and other people TRY too hard to see something that aint even there. Adam is a N'philym? Yeah yeah, something else you just made up which aint true, but I am sure you can spend about 2 paragraphs trying to explain it based on the logic that Adam fell and nephilym means those who fell or something like that. There are ALREADY holes all up in that. That aint no mystery man!!! Mysteries have their foundation in TRUTH. If what you saying aint even true, then the MYSTERY is how can you call yourself intelligent and even believe half the stuff that comes out your own mouth.
And tell me whats so important about knowing mysteries? Like I said in another post so you niggas can feel like you are better than someone else, garments for your ego and bravado. So you all can parade around like you know something when indeed yall don't. Put a mystery into practice, that would be most impressive. Not just running up and down a board saying all sorts of incomprehensible stuff and when people scratch their head and go "huh???" then you feel like you have a monopoly on knowledge when indeed you have an accute imagination. Tell ya what, if i am in err then show and prove me. Gimme a mystery that is not common knowledge or accepted knowledge. I shall start off...
Adam was a nephilim. Thats one mystery. Okay ball is in your court.[/quote]
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Post by yahshuahdotcom on Aug 20, 2004 8:31:51 GMT -5
ankhenaten2 posted,
11 And Moses said unto God, Who am I, that I should go unto Pharaoh, and that I should bring forth the children of Israel out of Egypt? 12 And he said, Certainly I will be with thee; and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain. 13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And Elohim said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. 15 And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, YAHWEH Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
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Post by yahshuahdotcom on Aug 20, 2004 9:03:51 GMT -5
Damn, my bad... SEE, I already stated that I would read the thread before posting but I kinda messed up again Anav made 2 (count 'em 2!!) good points that I read after the fact that apparently somebody is sleeping on.... "Would that be so or was it that he was ministering to a ignorant branch of his people who had been in Egypt for like 400 years through a lost Egyptian Cultured Hebrew name Moshe. Shyt look at US, I don't know who the hell I am either, or who my great, great, greats were worshipping, or there customs or laws. " also It is possible to get culturally detached when living in another nation for generations. Its hard to believe the Levites whom moses mom came from didn't know Yahwehs name. Now consider that the term "The LORD" was ALWAYS used in place of YAHWEH/YHWH in English translated text. Reinserting Ha Shem gives better understanding to the scripts. Exodus 6:2 And Elohim spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am YAHWEH: 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of Elohim Almighty, but by my name YAHWEH was I not known to them. COULD THIS HAD BEEN A QUESTION AND NOT A STATEMENT... as in: 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of Elohim Almighty, but by my name YAHWEH was I not known to them? Along with Genesis 4:26 and the following passage, I believe it WAS a question. Genesis 14:22 And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto YAHWEH, the most high Elohim, the possessor of heaven and earth, Genesis 15 1 After these things the word of YAHWEH came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward. 2 And Abram said, YAHWEH Elohim, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus? 3 And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir. 4 And, behold, the word of YAHWEH came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir. 5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. 6 And he believed in YAHWEH; and he counted it to him for righteousness. 7 And he said unto him, I am YAHWEH (WHO? ?) that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it. 8 And he said, YAHWEH Elohim, (He said WHAT?) whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it?
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 9:11:31 GMT -5
What can I tell you , parables are for your consumption bros. . This is where you fit in dude... Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And this is where I fit in... Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 1dell hate the game not the playah sorry bruh. aint nothing new (well maybe to you) here. Ive known for quite some time yah as the lunar deity. There is quite much I know pertaining to mysteries that I havent even begun to speak on on the board.You are right this aint nothing new these arguments are very old, very tired, and very defeated. But that doesn't negate what I said about the egyptian language to those who have an agenda they are contorting words to have them comply with doctrines in order to sell books and make loot. First of all Ahmose she is also called Yahmose by europeans. How is that kah? the name is spelled the EXACT same!!! Yah is comprised of 3 letters in ENGLISH but in the khemetan it's ONLY 2 letters. And Like I said prior the first letter is like the hebrew letter Ayin, it takes on various sounds One being A, the other being I and another being E. To those devious souls who wish to connect IHaWaH to egypt by any means necessary they have altered the spelling (mainly because scholars can't seem to agree on how the egyptian names should be spelled since it's absent of vowels) then you have this ONE woman's name with 6 letters sometimes spelled with 7 letters. Because. That too is a matter of preference. like I said before IH (which is how the word Yah is spelled here) is ALSO pronounced Eeh, the I gets a long E sound. So I am sorry, your little Yah the moon deity thing falls thru the floor.
AS for those mysteries (My stories) Yeah bro, go 'head and keep them nice and bottled up, wouldn't be nothing we could use anywayif u are so confident Israel had never learned of divinities of the nations then explain the nakash and the golden calf and there are many other examples but those two come to mind right off the bat.huh? come on bro. I know very well Ysra'al in their history longed for other gods and IHaWaH was CONSTANTLY reprimanding them for it. From Dogon, to Ishtar, to Diana. I wouldn't be a student of the bible and NOT know that. But MY point is, Just like Paul when he went to greece and saw in an grecian temple, he approached a pantheon of god and saw a spot for "the Unknown God" he then preached to those people about that God. When knowledge of a God reaches another nation, THEY fashion him to fit into their pantheon. The attributes of the God become altars, they find a way to fit it into their culture. Like the research proves, the hyksos brought knowledge of IHaWaH to egypt, now once the egyptians got their hands on that knowledge, it became tainted and now we have people like yourself and others who only go so far back into egyptian history but won't go ALL the way back befoe then to find out how all that happened. Anyway I can tell you didn't read a thing I said, now will you read this, so it's all a mute point1dell in all sincerity if you acknowledge there are mysteries in the bible then why is it 99.9 and 7/8th percent of what you spew is "common" knowledge and doctrine ? I mean that doesn't constitute a mystery bruh. Mainly because we can't even agree on the basics, the fundamentals. If we can't agree on that, why even scratch the surface of the mysteries. And personally kah, YOUR Mysteries (my stories) are just that bro, YOUR stories or yursteries. You make shit up, or you go to a niggas geocities webpage where he is pontificationg ad nauseum and it intrigues your imagination then you put your own twist on it then you want to run with it. And the stuff don't hold up.
What I know is NOT common knowledge at all bro. If it was common then we would all agree, if it was common knowledge then others would be saying what I say and I wouldn't have to correct a soul on illuminopolis.
Not to mention what is a mystery to you? Here is the mystery of the scriptures to ME, How giving 10 percent of your income to charity is the beginning of financial prosperity and freedom. How treating your enemies well will actually rid you of your enemy.
You and other people TRY too hard to see something that aint even there. Adam is a N'philym? Yeah yeah, something else you just made up which aint true, but I am sure you can spend about 2 paragraphs trying to explain it based on the logic that Adam fell and nephilym means those who fell or something like that. There are ALREADY holes all up in that. That aint no mystery man!!! Mysteries have their foundation in TRUTH. If what you saying aint even true, then the MYSTERY is how can you call yourself intelligent and even believe half the stuff that comes out your own mouth.
And tell me whats so important about knowing mysteries? Like I said in another post so you niggas can feel like you are better than someone else, garments for your ego and bravado. So you all can parade around like you know something when indeed yall don't. Put a mystery into practice, that would be most impressive. Not just running up and down a board saying all sorts of incomprehensible stuff and when people scratch their head and go "huh???" then you feel like you have a monopoly on knowledge when indeed you have an accute imagination. Tell ya what, if i am in err then show and prove me. Gimme a mystery that is not common knowledge or accepted knowledge. I shall start off...
Adam was a nephilim. Thats one mystery. Okay ball is in your court. [/quote]
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 10:26:07 GMT -5
1dell says : And tell me whats so important about knowing mysteries? Like I said in another post so you niggas can feel like you are better than someone else, garments for your ego and bravado. So you all can parade around like you know something when indeed yall don't. no offense bros. but your words demonstrate a person who is fustrated in envy. No one went around trying to boast themselves in ego and bravado. Go re-read the thread and you will see ITS YOU WHO DRAWS FIRST BLOOD AND FOR WHAT! ? BECAUSE IT DOESNT JIBE WITH YOUR LINE OF DOCTRINE ? come on now bros. If you didnt agree fine thats all good no one expects you too accept everything the next man says but damn!! if I aint known no better i'd say you JEALOUS YOU CAN'T SPIT FIRE AND VENOM LIKE THE NXT MAN!
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Post by 1dell on Aug 20, 2004 10:32:05 GMT -5
LOL envy bro? Oh ok. LOL!!! just for that Imma rile Linny up and psick her on you. Here linny linny linny!! sick 'em ssssiiiicckk 'em!!! 1dell says : And tell me whats so important about knowing mysteries? Like I said in another post so you niggas can feel like you are better than someone else, garments for your ego and bravado. So you all can parade around like you know something when indeed yall don't. no offense bros. but your words demonstrate a person who is fustrated in envy. No one went around trying to boast themselves in ego and bravado. Go re-read the thread and you will see ITS YOU WHO DRAWS FIRST BLOOD AND FOR WHAT! ? BECAUSE IT DOESNT JIBE WITH YOUR LINE OF DOCTRINE ? come on now bros. If you didnt agree fine thats all good no one expects you too accept everything the next man says but damn!! if I aint known no better i'd say you JEALOUS YOU CAN'T SPIT FIRE AND VENOM LIKE THE NXT MAN!
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 10:41:16 GMT -5
lol!!! On a real though, mano ah mano I think you are. You know how comes ? Well Im re-callin that time you went ballistics on Anav for some silly ish and how she should be drinking out of her own cistern and ish. I was like dude! come on mang! this a public forum where all types of peeps with all types of doctrine gonna post. of course she gonna read 'em dang it! I mean dang, if I aint known no beddah id say.... 1dellie kina insekur Now go ahead and sic lin lin on me. I know how to deal wit her. LOL envy bro? Oh ok. LOL!!! just for that Imma rile Linny up and psick her on you. Here linny linny linny!! sick 'em ssssiiiicckk 'em!!!
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Post by 1dell on Aug 20, 2004 10:55:32 GMT -5
Nah bro, the reason why I did that was because I don't wont her to encourage you. Because I know all you need is ONE fan or ONE person to approve that wild stuff you be saying and then you will come out with a SLEW of "new teachings" She later explained what she meant when she said that and I was ok with it. I thougth she was saying that EVERYTHING you say was on point. I was like OH HELL NO!!! especially after her and I study AGAINST the very things you say. It wasn't that bad what she did, I was MOOR so pissed because of that shit that was going on with the admins lookin in peoples accounts and thangs. But if you don't believe me on ANYTHING else from here on out, PLEASE believe me when I say I am not jealous. Anav is MY disciple I am the priest of our home, and you and I to go head to head as much as we do then for her to agree with you on some shit her and I had already studied together and debunked pissed me off. but she later explained it like I said and I misinnerstood it. What pissed me off moor than what she said was how you responded back to her with that "yes My dear child..." typa ish, like you were trying to enlist her in your school of slyKAHlogy as if she needs to sit at your feet and learn from you. That woman has too much knowledge for that. lol!!! On a real though, mano ah mano I think you are. You know how comes ? Well Im re-callin that time you went ballistics on Anav for some silly ish and how she should be drinking out of her own cistern and ish. I was like dude! come on mang! this a public forum where all types of peeps with all types of doctrine gonna post. of course she gonna read 'em dang it! I mean dang, if I aint known no beddah id say.... 1dellie kina insekur Now go ahead and sic lin lin on me. I know how to deal wit her.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 11:44:10 GMT -5
LOL!!! you could do better then this excuse broham without cheese. Do yoself a favor go re-read that thread and you will see you was all up in a damn fussy fit emotional tantrum dude it was SOOOOOO OBVIOUS J-LO... SEES ya homie! MUHAHAHAHAHAH! ;D How dare you threaten me wit Linette! Nah bro, the reason why I did that was because I don't wont her to encourage you. Because I know all you need is ONE fan or ONE person to approve that wild stuff you be saying and then you will come out with a SLEW of "new teachings" She later explained what she meant when she said that and I was ok with it. I thougth she was saying that EVERYTHING you say was on point. I was like OH HELL NO!!! especially after her and I study AGAINST the very things you say. It wasn't that bad what she did, I was MOOR so pissed because of that shit that was going on with the admins lookin in peoples accounts and thangs. But if you don't believe me on ANYTHING else from here on out, PLEASE believe me when I say I am not jealous. Anav is MY disciple I am the priest of our home, and you and I to go head to head as much as we do then for her to agree with you on some shit her and I had already studied together and debunked pissed me off. but she later explained it like I said and I misinnerstood it. What pissed me off moor than what she said was how you responded back to her with that "yes My dear child..." typa ish, like you were trying to enlist her in your school of slyKAHlogy as if she needs to sit at your feet and learn from you. That woman has too much knowledge for that.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 11:48:01 GMT -5
and another thing. Read this...
Mat 13:52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe [which is] instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man [that is] an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure [things] new and old.
Since you like to say I make ish up, break down for me the scribe who brings "NEW" things out of his treasure. Also what is the "treasure"?
GOOD LUCK!
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Post by 1dell on Aug 20, 2004 11:52:06 GMT -5
It's all good bro, believe what you want to believe. I ain't got nothing to prove with this. I said what I said you chose not to accept it. thats fine. Moving right along LOL!!! you could do better then this excuse broham without cheese. Do yoself a favor go re-read that thread and you will see you was all up in a damn fussy fit emotional tantrum dude it was SOOOOOO OBVIOUS J-LO... SEES ya homie! MUHAHAHAHAHAH! ;D How dare you threaten me wit Linette! [sarcasm]TEXT[/sarcasm]
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