Jesus myth character goes against TORAH

[Zakiah Levanah]

Bel said:

It would be hard to pull this off cause all of the writings pre-dating Moses era were written by.... DRUM ROLE PLEASE!!

MOSES!

So basically who would have been the authority. If he didn't know the name that clearly doesn't mean no one predated him new it. Thats hard to believe. So if he wrote thats when Men began to call on the name thats when they did. LOL. It is possible to get culturally detached when living in another nation for generations.
Its hard to believe the Levites whom moses mom came from didn't know Yahwehs name.

[kAHANyAH]

Anav, Moses wrote that not the people of that time. You gotta ask yourself how upfront was Moses ? I mean we're basically relying on him to give us the name of the deity called upon by those who lived before him.

Now if you goto the books of Enoch, u will see these "YHWH" were all lesser divine deities - exactly the way the aegiptians saw them as; moon gods or gods of the lesser luminary.

Anav said:

EEEEHHH I could say nobody on the planet ever knew his laws or of him based on the fact that he had to basically establish himself in Exodus & Dueteronomy. Would that be so or was it that he was ministering to a ignorant branch of his people who had been in Egypt for like 400 years through a lost Egyptian Cultured Hebrew name Moshe. Shyt look at US, I don't know who the hell I am either, or who my great, great, greats were worshipping, or there customs or laws. I mean his moms name was Yocheved isn't that translated as gods glory, and el is God right so what is Yoch lol (poor argument) but Yashuadotcom posted what I was talking about
26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of YAHWEH.
So when you find that law in Torah or that passage also find a debunk for yahweh in this verse, perhaps it really said Elohim or Adonai. Somebody get out Strom!

[Zakiah Levanah]

Its hard to believe the Levites whom moses mom came from didn't know Yahwehs name.
Let me correct this I feel teeth sinkin in already. I know the levites came after moses mama. Its hard to phathom people like Abraham making covenats and don't know his name
Actually I was correcting that, my cut an paste didn't cut last time

[kAHANyAH]

thats not what I am saying. Moses presents the name as though its the highest of divine name. I say Moses was very much aware of aegiptian study and had to come across the knowledge of the moon deities who carry the name "yah".

Moses was worshipping the brazen nakash (the one he put on a pole to heal the people).

Anav said:

So basically who would have been the authority. If he didn't know the name that clearly doesn't mean no one predated him new it. Thats hard to believe. So if he wrote thats when Men began to call on the name thats when they did. LOL. It is possible to get culturally detached when living in another nation for generations.
Its hard to believe the Levites whom moses mom came from didn't know Yahwehs name.

[kAHANyAH]

Levites .... Levi-athan. Hmmmm....

Anav said:

Its hard to believe the Levites whom moses mom came from didn't know Yahwehs name.
Let me correct this I feel teeth sinkin in already. I know the levites came after moses mama. Its hard to phathom people like Abraham making covenats and don't know his name
Actually I was correcting that, my cut an paste didn't cut last time

[Zakiah Levanah]

Bel said:

Anav, Moses wrote that not the people of that time. You gotta ask yourself how upfront was Moses ? I mean we're basically relying on him to give us the name of the deity called upon by those who lived before him.

Now if you goto the books of Enoch, u will see these "YHWH" were all lesser divine deities - exactly the way the aegiptians saw them as; moon gods or gods of the lesser luminary.

I remember reading Enoch years ago and remember them making reference to the beings as angelic or elohim. If they were considered YHWH's then YHWH can't be his name, yet another title.
1dell add something please now I'm getting confused.

[Zakiah Levanah]

Bel said:

thats not what I am saying. Moses presents the name as though its the highest of divine name. I say Moses was very much aware of aegiptian study and had to come across the knowledge of the moon deities who carry the name "yah".

Moses was worshipping the brazen nakash (the one he put on a pole to heal the people).

So basically you are saying Moses knowingly decieved the people by futher indoctrinating them with Egyptian theology. Ok so I guess Torah is basically a Egyptian spinoff also just like Jesus


I hate when I do that

[kAHANyAH]

Anav, many of the angelic host carry the title YHWH according to Enoch's acct. Which btw..., pre-dates Moses the law giver. These "yahs" are considered Beni Elohim or the sons of El. There is a big difference between El and Yah. Had you said El was the highest of divine names then I could get wit that.

And guess what - according to the legend El and Jehovah [yhwh] were at war.

Its funny how according to the isaiah prophecy the messiah was to be called Emmanu'El. But instead we get this Jesus the greek corruption for YAH'ohshua. Like OMG!! aint EL at war with YAH!

Hmmm...

Anav said:

I remember reading Enoch years ago and remember them making reference to the beings as angelic or elohim. If they were considered YHWH's then YHWH can't be his name, yet another title.
1dell add something please now I'm getting confused.

[1dell]

I tell you whats funny,

The name I am that I am is this in hebrew:

Ah'yeh asher Ah'yeh

Not even Yahweh. So this is not even dealing with the topic at hand.

Exd 6:2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I [am] the LORD:

Exd 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by [the name of] God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Before then the Most High was known as God Almighty: Sh'dy but by IHWH he was not known to THEM. Them being Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. BUT this deity IHWH was worshipped by the Midianites!!!! It was while shepherding his father-in-law's flock that he discovered the location of this diety whom the Midianites worshipped.

So this deity IHWH was ALSO known as Sh'dy,

Here is where IHWH introduces himself to Abram thus .

Gen 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I [am] the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

But we find it's the same being. What does that mean? It means IHWH revealed himself specifially to the forefathers of the hebrews as God almighty, are we to ASSUME that his worshippers BEFORE Abraham only knew him thus?

that would be an unfair ASSUMATION

Anav said:

So basically who would have been the authority. If he didn't know the name that clearly doesn't mean no one predated him new it. Thats hard to believe. So if he wrote thats when Men began to call on the name thats when they did. LOL. It is possible to get culturally detached when living in another nation for generations.
Its hard to believe the Levites whom moses mom came from didn't know Yahwehs name.

[kAHANyAH]

Aint that what the ELITE [isra ELITE] always do ?

Anav said:

[kAHANyAH]

the Ah'yeh asher Ah'yeh who presented himself to Moses was also a bloody moon god! Look for yoself...

Exd 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush [was] not consumed.

That angel of the Lord or Mala'ak_YHWH is the one that presented the ambiguous name - Ah'yeh asher Ah'yeh. Why ambiguous ? because you dont have any one attribute to it. Any of the "Yah" hosts fits into that category. Also notice the yah in Ah'YEH.

1dell said:

I tell you whats funny,

The name I am that I am is this in hebrew:

Ah'yeh asher Ah'yeh

Not even Yahweh. So this is not even dealing with the topic at hand.

Exd 6:2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I [am] the LORD:

Exd 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by [the name of] God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Before then the Most High was known as God Almighty: Sh'dy but by IHWH he was not known to THEM. Them being Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. BUT this deity IHWH was worshipped by the Midianites!!!! It was while shepherding his father-in-law's flock that he discovered the location of this diety whom the Midianites worshipped.

So this deity IHWH was ALSO known as Sh'dy,

Here is where IHWH introduces himself to Abram thus .

Gen 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I [am] the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

But we find it's the same being. What does that mean? It means IHWH revealed himself specifially to the forefathers of the hebrews as God almighty, are we to ASSUME that his worshippers BEFORE Abraham only knew him thus?

that would be an unfair ASSUMATION

[ankhenaten2]

Bel said:

Anav, many of the angelic host carry the title YHWH according to Enoch's acct. Which btw..., pre-dates Moses the law giver. These "yahs" are considered Beni Elohim or the sons of El. There is a big difference between El and Yah. Had you said El was the highest of divine names then I could get wit that.

now kah white man worshipper is bringing somthing that is 100% correct

the angels in torah and tanack get the title YAHWEH also somtimes yahweh sends a angel........this angel will then carry the title YAHWEH

because he is acting on behave of .......YAHWEH

of cource KAH HATE TORAH AND TANACK AND WILL ONLY SEE THAT IN ....."ENOCH" SCRIPTURE...........

[Zakiah Levanah]

Bel said:

Anav, many of the angelic host carry the title YHWH according to Enoch's acct. Which btw..., pre-dates Moses the law giver. These "yahs" are considered Beni Elohim or the sons of El. There is a big difference between El and Yah. Had you said El was the highest of divine names then I could get wit that.

And guess what - according to the legend El and Jehovah [yhwh] were at war.

Its funny how according to the isaiah prophecy the messiah was to be called Emmanu'El. But instead we get this Jesus the greek corruption for YAH'ohshua. Like OMG!! aint EL at war with YAH!

Hmmm...

I've heard all kinds of stuff about Yahweh the God of war, Yahweh the earth gardian.... blah blah. I was even taught growing up to use the Most High God father of all Creation when I prayed because men are confused about the name. So who is the biblical Yahweh, whose name appeared over 7k in the scripts was this a many Yah's? I though El meant God, which is a title. What does Yahweh mean? Not Yah, because Yah is not YHWH. Also I don't really know the concept behind Leviathin other than a conspiract scroll I read by york at 13 yrs old. So those references fly over my head.

[Zakiah Levanah]

1dell said:

I tell you whats funny,

The name I am that I am is this in hebrew:

Ah'yeh asher Ah'yeh

Not even Yahweh. So this is not even dealing with the topic at hand.

Exd 6:2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I [am] the LORD:

Exd 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by [the name of] God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Before then the Most High was known as God Almighty: Sh'dy but by IHWH he was not known to THEM. Them being Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. BUT this deity IHWH was worshipped by the Midianites!!!! It was while shepherding his father-in-law's flock that he discovered the location of this diety whom the Midianites worshipped.

So this deity IHWH was ALSO known as Sh'dy,

Here is where IHWH introduces himself to Abram thus .

Gen 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I [am] the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

But we find it's the same being. What does that mean? It means IHWH revealed himself specifially to the forefathers of the hebrews as God almighty, are we to ASSUME that his worshippers BEFORE Abraham only knew him thus?

that would be an unfair ASSUMATION

Now I'm more confused. Nap time

[ankhenaten2]

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