Jesus myth character goes against TORAH

[Zakiah Levanah]

ankhenaten2 said:

now kah white man worshipper is bringing somthing that is 100% correct

the angels in torah and tanack get the title YAHWEH also somtimes yahweh sends a angel........this angel will then carry the title YAHWEH

because he is acting on behave of .......YAHWEH

of cource KAH HATE TORAH AND TANACK AND WILL ONLY SEE THAT IN ....."ENOCH" SCRIPTURE...........

Like when God came to Abram and was described as a man when Sodom & Gomorah was destroyed. I didn't thin tht was the most high.

[1dell]

Thats the best you can do bro?

I give you guys too much credit.

first of all the fact the egypt even used Iah or Lah as a name for one of their deities is proof that the he was known by this before Moshe knew him as this.

It's funny bro cuz whenever it's convient for you you will say that moshe wrote genesis, when I remember distinctly before you said that it's no proof that moshe wrote the torah especially genesis. This back and forth stuff you do is nauseating. I agree Moshe didn't write genesis he just compiled the writings of his fathers and is accredited with writing it when he was the compiler. Perhaps got record of the events from the Midianites who were priviledged never to have been in bondage and never having lost their legacy as the hebrews did.

Now this Moon God Iah or Lah which we ALL know dammit in the egyptian language is IH and could have been pronounced Eeh. Get it skraight because Thoth is the egyptian moon god. So stop playing with people and the scriptur from whence you speak that mentions IH is the Papyrus Ani:

"A spell to come forth by day and live after dying. Words spoken by the Osiris Ani:
O One, bright as the moon-god Iah; O One, shining as Iah;
This Osiris Ani comes forth among these your multitudes outside, bringing himself back as a shining one. He has opened the netherworld.
Lo, the Osiris Osiris [sic] Ani comes forth by day, and does as he desires on earth among the living."

There be punctuations here but we ALL know that there didn't exist punctuations in the writ. so it would be

"O one bright as the moon god Ih, O One shining as Ih"

If I repunctuate this I will have some fun

"O one bright as the moon, god Ih, O One shining as Ih"

BLAM!!! in one eurpean translation it looks as if one is saying the moon god is IH in the other they are praying to IH who is as bright as the moon.

STOP PLAYING GAMES!!! You learn somethign ONE day and in 5 minutes you are creating another doctrine off it and running with it.

Here too, lets get the hyksos in the picture. Hell I am at work and need to save time. Read this:

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The high point in Yah's popularity can be found following the the Middle Kingdom when many people immigrated from the Levant and the Hyksos ruled Egypt. Hence, it is likely that contact with the regions of Palestine, Syria and Babylon were important in the development of this god in Egypt. George Hart, in his "A Dictionary of Egyptian Gods and Goddesses" believes that these foreigners in Egypt may have associated Yah with the Akkadian moon-god, Sin, who had an important temple at Harron in north Syria. Like Thoth, Sin was a god of Wisdom, but his other epithets included "Brother of the Earth", Father of the Sun, Father of Gods, as well as others.

Later during the New Kingdom within the Theban royal family, and not so strangely, even though it was they who expunged these foreign rulers from Egypt, the name of the god Yah was incorporated into their names. The daughter of the 17th Dynasty king, Tao I, was Yah-hotep, meaning "Yah is content". The name of the next and last ruler of the 17th Dynasty, Kamose, may have also been derived from Yah. His name means ""the bull is born", and this might be the Egyptian equivalent of the epithet applied to Sin describing him as a "young bull...with strong horns (i.e. the tips of the crescent moon). Also another interpretation of the name of the founder of the 18th Dynasty, Ahmose, is Yahmose, which would mean "Yah is born". However, this was not the only name associated with Hyksos gods to be adopted by these Egyptians

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Bel said:

the Ah'yeh asher Ah'yeh who presented himself to Moses was also a bloody moon god! Look for yoself...

Exd 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush [was] not consumed.

That angel of the Lord or Mala'ak_YHWH is the one that presented the ambiguous name - Ah'yeh asher Ah'yeh. Why ambiguous ? because you dont have any one attribute to it. Any of the "Yah" hosts fits into that category. Also notice the yah in Ah'YEH.

[1dell]

Yall niggas REALLY need to look behind the veil, you will not find what you saying when you read the scriptures in hebrew. Yahweh is not a race of angels, all the pronouns used for the word are singular.

You all sound like christians for real. They believe that Jehovah Jireh is an attribute of God when Jehovah Jireh only means IHaWaH will provide or they wish to pray to Jehovah Raphael thinking they are encanting a being that will heal them only in the scripture it merely means IHaWaH is my healer.

these mysteries in the hands of novices have become much convoluted

ankhenaten2 said:

now kah white man worshipper is bringing somthing that is 100% correct

the angels in torah and tanack get the title YAHWEH also somtimes yahweh sends a angel........this angel will then carry the title YAHWEH

because he is acting on behave of .......YAHWEH

of cource KAH HATE TORAH AND TANACK AND WILL ONLY SEE THAT IN ....."ENOCH" SCRIPTURE...........

[Zakiah Levanah]

1dell said:

convoluted

[1dell]

Not to mention the egyptian vowel in IH is like the hebrew vowel ayin, it can be transliterated as I, O or A. Come on yall!!! be just in your research!!! ergo that could verywell be IH, OH, or AH. yall play too much

[Zakiah Levanah]

No one said what yahweh meant so I looked it up. Some say I am, some say to be, some say self existant. All say to me that they are more of an Attibute than a name.
modified due to typossss

[1dell]

Sweety here is the deal Yahweh means NOTHING. It's not a word. All it is is europeans trying to cypher the tetragrammaton IHWH. If you look in ANY hebrew dictionary Yahweh will NOT be found because it's NOT a hebrew word.

So if Yahweh means those things it HAS to be another language but it was never used by the hebrews.

and since I KNOW that it's not then those meanings have been APPLIED to it which is why the meanings vary so.

the reason why the name CAN"T be Yahweh is because IHAWAH or IHeWeH IS hebrew. Hawah means to live, to exist, life which is what Eve's name was and when the letter I is placed infront of a word it means HE does a thing so IHaWaH means He exists. Just like Isra'al or Israel means He who rules as God.

SIGH!!!

Anav said:

No one said what yahweh meant so I looked it up. Some say I am, some say to be, some say self existant. All say to me that they are more of an Attibute than a name.
modified due to typossss

[1dell]

That name Yahweh bodes well for the Hebrews. They are fine with it BECAUSE they consider the rest of the world heathens or goyim. And they protect the name of their god with their life and it's a law to them to NEVER let the goyim know the true name of their god. Thats why they will even substantiate the error that his name is Yahweh. LOL. Many people know this and whenever you get a Jew to agree to that pronounciation he is up to something. Only ONE TIME a year is the correct pronounciation given and that is during Yom Kippur will the Rabbis utter the name.

Hell Just look at how the tetragrammaton is butchered Yahweh in one instance in even the Jew's brand of the name Jehovah. They purposely thru everyone one by playing the vowels of Adonai in there to keep the name holy and their version of keeping the name holy is by keeping the hell spawn gentiles from being able to speak his name and thereby evoking the power of their deity against them.

So what most people see is a facade.

I have the tomes of the most secretive hebraic magic in my corner that confirm what I speak silly mortals

[CoUrTnEy]

1dell, all the churches i been to i dont recall anything being called in the name of jehovah raphael. personally i pray to God, but then i dont fall under the typical "christian" catagory either. Reminds me of something that i heard before - dont try to be christian, be "Christ Like".. a lot of people miss that. .but anyhow..

1dell said:

Yall niggas REALLY need to look behind the veil, you will not find what you saying when you read the scriptures in hebrew. Yahweh is not a race of angels, all the pronouns used for the word are singular.

You all sound like christians for real. They believe that Jehovah Jireh is an attribute of God when Jehovah Jireh only means IHaWaH will provide or they wish to pray to Jehovah Raphael thinking they are encanting a being that will heal them only in the scripture it merely means IHaWaH is my healer.

these mysteries in the hands of novices have become much convoluted

[1dell]

Yeah thats moor in the charasmatic teachings. IN fact I remember going to bible study and the pastor passing out a list of all these names of god that you can pray to and evoke the power of that name.

I ain't against that but I am like KNOW what you are talking about. Like when Jehovah Jireh, the church took that and RAN with it!!! thinking that this is a name of God but WHEN one looks in the hebrew where it's used, there is the text"

"and isaac said father I see the fire and wood but where is the sacrfice?" Then abraham answers "Son the Lord will provide himself a sacrifice" HUH??? the part that says "...the lord will provide" is Jehovah Jireh. How is that a name of god? It's just a man speaking about what god will do I could see if he was using that as a noun which he isn't doing.

I am just soo tired of all this poor scholarship that is just having people tossed to and fro with foolishness

CoUrTnEy said:

1dell, all the churches i been to i dont recall anything being called in the name of jehovah raphael. personally i pray to God, but then i dont fall under the typical "christian" catagory either. Reminds me of something that i heard before - dont try to be christian, be "Christ Like".. a lot of people miss that. .but anyhow..

[kAHANyAH]

Its like this, to cut thru all the bulljank, Enoch was the first to speak on this YHWH tetra-gramaton before Moses revealed the story of creation. You wanna know who or what YHWH is ? GET YOU THE SCROLL OF ENOCH AND SEE FOR YOURSELF. ITS AN ENTIRE HOST.

BTW 1dell, the reason why YHWH is singular is because there was a specific YHWH the hebrews worshipped.

[kAHANyAH]

Actually Elyown [most High] wasn't the one who came to Abraham. The deity who came to Abraham was YHWH.

Anav said:

Like when God came to Abram and was described as a man when Sodom & Gomorah was destroyed. I didn't thin tht was the most high.

[Master-9]

1dell said:

I tell you whats funny,

The name I am that I am is this in hebrew:

Ah'yeh asher Ah'yeh

Not even Yahweh. So this is not even dealing with the topic at hand.

Exd 6:2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I [am] the LORD:

Exd 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by [the name of] God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Before then the Most High was known as God Almighty: Sh'dy but by IHWH he was not known to THEM. Them being Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. BUT this deity IHWH was worshipped by the Midianites!!!! It was while shepherding his father-in-law's flock that he discovered the location of this diety whom the Midianites worshipped.

So this deity IHWH was ALSO known as Sh'dy,

Here is where IHWH introduces himself to Abram thus .

Gen 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I [am] the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

But we find it's the same being. What does that mean? It means IHWH revealed himself specifially to the forefathers of the hebrews as God almighty, are we to ASSUME that his worshippers BEFORE Abraham only knew him thus?

that would be an unfair ASSUMATION

Abraham was taught my Malachi Zodoq to worship Elyown Elyown EL

[Master-9]

1dell said:

the reason why the name CAN"T be Yahweh is because IHAWAH or IHeWeH IS hebrew. Hawah means to live, to exist, life which is what Eve's name was and when the letter I is placed infront of a word it means HE does a thing so IHaWaH means He exists. Just like Isra'al or Israel means He who rules as God.

SIGH!!!

You finnaly agree with Malachi Zodoq

[kAHANyAH]

Thats right. Prior to meeting Malachi_tsdk Abram aint known who Elyown El was.

Master-9 said:

Abraham was taught my Malachi Zodoq to worship Elyown Elyown EL