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Post by ELTRUTH on Jan 4, 2005 8:45:02 GMT -5
"  , okay let me get in here...yada yada yada, the york haters are always at it over and over again. how 'bout this; how come nobody stood up against York and succeeded?  We all know the school of hard knocks is NOT for everyone, that is why most of you people who want to sit hear and yap about defending york NEVER moved in as he spoke of for YEARS and be 'counted' with the 'holy ones' you wanted your cake and eat it. you wanted to sound deep- but keep the luxuries of your own freedom and life. those who moved in and scrificed is becasue they believed york 110% and was WILLING to sacrifice now YORK USED that for his own intentions is not the fualt of people who woke up and brought him to justice. this is NOT the first time people have stood up and voiced their opinion. this is JUST the first time were people didnt sit back down, when they were told to and THREATENED to. and THAT is what made this FINAL attempt a relevant one. and if all these people invloved are evil- who is to blame when they ALL had one 'master' teacher?   |
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Post by 1dell on Jan 4, 2005 10:04:12 GMT -5
Woman you better preach. I bet you are a fire sign.
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Post by Hathor on Jan 4, 2005 12:58:15 GMT -5
Balkis Said:
"...So yes, it was mainly a conviction of doing something "good", and hoping that we could accomplish our goals one day."
I Ask:
"So, with all that you 'Claim' was happening, why
didn't you Talk to York about these so-called thing
happening? You sure don't have a problem talking
now to the whole-wide-world; whys that I wonder..."
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Post by Hathor on Jan 4, 2005 13:04:33 GMT -5
"And El Truth, the whole-wide-web can tell that you have been totally hurt by York in one way or another. Perhaps He didn't give you the attention that you so much seek now. It's not coincidence that you study your little head off to 'Try' and find mistakes in His teachings. El Truth, York can still come out and cause you to be speehless; you to Balkis. The problem with you all who are against York are 'Your Hang-ups" and 'Your Isms'. As hard as it is for you to realize the Fact that Nothing Matters, you just can not comprehend that, because in Your World every thing has 'Labels', like libby libby libby, etc."  |
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Post by BalkisII on Jan 4, 2005 17:24:07 GMT -5
It's interesting to see that Hator choose adjetives that must describe her nature. I'm only here performing a SERVICE!!! Just answering questions posed to me, with SIMPLE FACTS! Those here in 'DEFENDESE' would rather believe that it's all part of a "conspiracy", well so be it, I have no problem in anyone maintaining their BELIEFS! My BES to you!  |
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Post by ELTRUTH on Jan 4, 2005 17:44:21 GMT -5
hathor- AGAIN you go on talking about who is beliving hearsay and YOU are the one who just belives EVERYTHING u heard. if u was an ansaar back in brooklyn you would KNOW there were many times this has been brought up. families was KICKED out on the street JUST for questioning why doc was sleeping with their 15 year old, brothers were told to put their wives in check and or beat them UP for questioning why young girls were going into yorks house all times of the night. no there was never as MANY people comming out like there was a few years ago, but the point of the matter this is NOT the first time those issues were brought up. there were instances were york was approached FACE TO FACE and he either lied, or made an escuse for it, or punished that person- were there is was physicaly, mentally, or emotionally. so over time people who KNEW- KNEW NOT to bring it up. and not everone there did KNOW. so by u making those FALSE accusations you are proving to everyone that YOU just go by what you hear, and that you wasnt there to experience things at first hand. its your given opinion to FEEL york is innocent, but for you to bagger someone who says they KNOW york is NOT innocent- or go on as if he didnt say to a judge with a straight face that he was NOT coherced and he IS guilty- its silly.  |
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Post by Master-9 on Jan 4, 2005 19:29:28 GMT -5
I have no problem in anyone maintaining their BELIEFS! I know you are not talking about beliefs, you are into beliefs |
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Post by Zakiah Levanah on Jan 4, 2005 23:03:42 GMT -5
Nehisi said: "...And the reason I don't think it went on is because everyone there could not be weak. I have a friend there, whose been there every since Tamare began down in Ga. If it was true, I would have known. I think I'm really a nice person, I try to be. But I wouldn't be able to stand by and allow another woman to be mistreated even if she didn't know any better. BaBa even has a tape about women because he says God is a Woman. And that makes perfect sense to me. I have never seen in any of York's scrolls that he said he was the ALL. And I have a collection". Zakiah Levanah said: "I hear you sis". I Say to Zakiah Levanah: That's all you can say now??? Nehisi made some very good point which makes good sense, yet you want to 'hold-on' to the hearsay and the fake-guilty verdict because you love dirt. You guys who love dirt, you don't ask the right questions to BalkisII and the other weak and sick females who are 'Mad'. Some of these stories are said to have been going on for Ten Long Years !!! How could this be I agree with Nehisi, for Somebody with a little bit of intelligence would have been kicking somebodys' azz on that land! Come On. Think now. The way dudes and females be fightin the the streets over this is Mines and I'll killya if you mess with this, yada, yada, yada...oh pleaseeeee. Zakiah Levanah, you ain't asking BalkisII the ForReally Questions, my dear. You're a softee, I can tell, cause again, you love the dirtydownlow. See, I've been back and forth with BalkisII for a long time...two years now...within those two years, she still hasn't said anything remotely concrete that can convince intelligent women that Dr. York committed all that crap. Anybody can tell a lie. Any ole body! My question about why no one approached Dr. York while he was free and about, about any of the things they 'claim' has been going on for years. No one even walked up to him and punched him in the face for some of these 'so-called' truths. Why not? I'll tell You why...cause it's all a Plot for Revenge because they were chatised one way or another, or that they were Jealous and Envious of His Success which they couldn't apply to themselves. Where are the children who were so-called hurt? They ain't saying nothing, cause there ain't nothing To Be Said !!! Children run their mouth just as Big Mouth Females run their mouth, yet for 10 long years, everything was hushhush...Give Me A Break! I smell Punks & Liars up and down and all around. I can not be convinced that with that many people all around the land coming and going with lots of events going on, that things crazy things were happening and No One Spoke Up until 2002. That doesn't make sense. And just like Nehisi said, she know someone who was there for many years, and if those acts happened, She Would Have Known. But, like I said, 'some people just like Dirt' and I ain't one of those people, regardless of what you say Zakiah Levanah. Dr. York Is Innocent. And I'm a Tough Cookie, can't nothing like that Ever happen to my Family. Again, I have three children whom I raised all by myself, all because I Do Not Take Any Crap From Anybody!!! When their fathers' started acting ill, that was it for me and it didn't take me no 10 years to move on. I truly think Dr. York is Innocent. I've read many of his books and no-mere-man can produce such as he have. Well, put it this way, BalkisII and Zakiah Levanah, you all try to do the work as he have, just as he have. You all try and gather the people to listen to Your-Story and ask people to work for You while You provide them with a roof over their head and 'OnionSoup' for them and their children to eat. You go out and purchase 400 acres of land and try to gather up Artist to Build Monuments representing Your-Story. You All stay on top of Your business and we will just buy Your Writings and Support Your Work and let us know how The Devils (black and white) are Popping Up All Around You To Devour. And don't forget that You All gotta make us some music, cause we are a people who love to sing and dance. And every week, have an Question and Answer Class for ANYONE to stand up and Openly Ask You All questions about Anything Under and OVER the sun. Let Us know, okay.  Let me break it down for ya. I ended with I hear ya sis because I don't believe in beating a dead horse. Like I said... I went down the line of people who endure all kinds of things for what ever reasons, so it is not beyond reason that people allowed things to happen to them for 10 years. Just because you wouldn't tolerate it doesn't mean it can't happen. Shoot, there has been secrets kept at my crib. I lived with my parents for 17 yrs and never caught them hunchin, I seen 2 little brothers come and grow....but how?? Come on yall. So no that didn't shut me up, please believe. Unfortunately there was enough evidence to convict him.That is why it pays to play by the devils rules if you like to use the devils tools. Pimpin ain't easy and Uncle sam wants his cut! As you may or may not have gathered, my only concern here was the fruits dropping off, while the lips was flopping off. The fruits let me know what type of tree is in the garden. Some of the stuff I hear would keep me from letting my dog piss on the tree, let alone eat of the fruit. If you notice I don't Bash York. I only know what I have gathered from my experience with his students and his tapes and scrolls. I only comment vaguely and when YOU usually come out your mouth with pure venom. just to see where ya head is, because you are a sister. I'm not luke warm, I'm either hot or cold all the time. Your right I probably won't lead my people, I'm a healer not a leader. I don't half azz either so they would have assinated me. Funny how Ben Ami is doing the dayum thing, at least he left the oppressors land, even though he is still holding the oppressors hand a little bit. I've heard dirt and complaints about him and his land, from those who do that sort of thing yet no conspiracy. His folks are benefiting also; actual vegans, growing their food, speak Hebrew, own businesses throughout the US & Israel, have concerts in Israel & US, dress culturally and create books and tapes......... If I loved dirt I'd be posting on every York thread. But you may only notice my prescence when your around WHY??? Because you let some vile stuff spill from your lips about people. You have made statements like... who cares about Yorks sexual preference it's all about the lessons. I care about a man if he screws children, I'd hope any woman would. Basically it doesn't REALLY matter TO ME if he did or didn't because I'm not a York follower. I can't say I know all the great things he has taught you because I don't own all the scrolls but based on the fact that folks still haven't mastered the diet, not to many are astral plane hopping, I don't here to much about the shaman's, the healers. I just hear a bunch of math equations, the ones who seem to have the most sense only use Nuwapu as a science, they are not gung ho troopers. Lately all I hear is people preparing their body to be inhabited by sleeping God's . What about the God sleeping in there already. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO SAVE THEM. Here's what I do know.... A person creates books without copy rights, copies peoples trademarks, pictures quotes all kind of info...with out there expressed permission and then uses it for a profit.....ILLEGAL they are stealing. A person confuses me because every other year I pick up a book they have changed from Ansaar to Hebrew, to Mason, seems like they are lying. If your reason is because you are not part of "the system"well thats another lye. Until you go to another dimension or at least another country your down too. I see people representing him, who in his defense call people out there names, when the challenge arises. I just try to bring that to the attention of those representing York. Because if I was thinking about coming to class I'd pass because of the students. I don't know Balkis but I see how she carries herself and yes she has me fooled, she has a sweet spirit. Nehesi has a sweet spirit also. Thats what it's all about. I don't wanna be in a flock of sheep but I don't wanna lye with dogs either. |
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Post by BalkisII on Jan 5, 2005 10:12:02 GMT -5
Zakiah Levanah...AMEN!!! And thanks..."I don't know Balkis but I see how she carries herself and yes she has me fooled, she has a sweet spirit." You have a great spirit, str8 to the point!!!! |
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Post by BalkisII on Jan 5, 2005 10:28:20 GMT -5
... I Ask: "So, with all that you 'Claim' was happening, why didn't you Talk to York about these so-called thing happening? You sure don't have a problem talking now to the whole-wide-world; whys that I wonder..." As a matter of FACT, shortly after I FOUND OUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS... ...I WROTE DOC (since I was in Eatonton, and he in Athens at that time)... ...and TOLD HIM, I FOUND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND THAT I WAS LEAVING AND GOING TO GATHER MY CHILDREN, AND SEE HOW I COULD HELP THEM!!!! He then sent his 'TOP HONCHO' to call me on the phone and I was TOLD NOT TO LEAVE UNTIL SHE COMES TO SEE ME, AND SHE WAS LEAVING FROM ATHENS RIGHT AWAY TO COME TO SEE ME B4 I LEFT... ...She got there in less than an hr. to give me $1,000 -which you are lucky to get just busfare to leave when you are leaving or kicked out!, and told me Doc said... ..." I understand WHY you are leaving, and want you to know that you are always welcome to come back because you are family..." ...She proceeded to question me several times, as to "what I was going to do when I go out there? She wanted to know if I was going to go to the authorities???" Now any FOOL can see that that supposed to be 'HUSH MONEY'!!!!  but then again, not you, cause you too smart!  |
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Post by BalkisII on Jan 5, 2005 10:38:52 GMT -5
I know you are not talking about beliefs, you are into beliefs You see M-9, there you go, making a judgement call, and you DON'T know me! That is what you get for ALWAYS trying to LABEL somebody based on a line you read, without having ANY notion in ABSOLUTE as to where I'm COMING from, nor CERTAINLY where I've BEEN!!!!  |
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Post by Zakiah Levanah on Jan 5, 2005 18:58:13 GMT -5
Zakiah Levanah...AMEN!!! And thanks..."I don't know Balkis but I see how she carries herself and yes she has me fooled, she has a sweet spirit." You have a great spirit, str8 to the point!!!! Your welcome sis |
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Post by ELTRUTH on Jan 6, 2005 0:25:33 GMT -5
Zakiyah - i couldnt aggree with you more, people will NEVER be able to understand and comprehend if they have NEVER been in their shoes. even some people who left years earlier are still shocked on how all this could have happend and for so long- but unless you were THERE and confronted with the situation and SURVIVED- then you can NEVER say it wouldnt have been them. all these people talking all this smack should have followed there master teacher and moved IN- MAYBE they could have been the one to set a better example or put york in his place before it got this far |
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Post by Hathor on Jan 7, 2005 15:59:21 GMT -5
"I know in your heart you wish I was there to do Your Job for you. However, I was in other schools at that time. I wasn't there but You and BalkisII was and You Should Of Set The Records Straight. You All Didn't, so shut up about it...crying over spilt milk! York Is Supreme and BalkisII, when I'm With Him...well You're See..." |
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Post by ELTRUTH on Jan 12, 2005 0:28:18 GMT -5
"I know in your heart you wish I was there to do Your Job for you. However, I was in other schools at that time. I wasn't there but You and BalkisII was and You Should Of Set The Records Straight. You All Didn't, so shut up about it...crying over spilt milk! York Is Supreme and BalkisII, when I'm With Him...well You're See..." you DONT get it DO you? people DID set the record straight- that is why he is were he is today! so YOU all are the ones crying over spilt milk! it didnt have to be all blown out of porportion as it did, but HE WANTED the drama- he LIKES playing with you all emotions, so he IS in jail and YOU all are STILL crying over spilt milk. and when u said balkis II are you refering to the roman numeral 2- and saying that balkis is supreme TO?  and u can be with him - have u visited him? your master teacher? have u tried? i cant help that your deep JELOUSLY for those of us unfortunate to have been around him. thats just something u are going to have to work out on your own. |
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