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Post by 1dell on Oct 26, 2004 10:18:25 GMT -5
Actually no bro, I am using the word Dr. York himself used. I was listening to one of his savior day tapes and he said "People say we're a cult...Yeah we're a cult....cult-ure" Then went on to play around with the word Culture. Rosicrucians are a cult, they do no harm, Hari krishnas are a cult, they do no harm. When you look up the ingredients of a cult, you will see that Nuwaubu is the perfect blend. I am only saying what york himself said We are not a cult, you are insulting the intelligents of 1,000 of nuwaubians to say we apart of something that causes harm. If you haven't walk in his(York) shoes please leave your views on him to yourself
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Post by BalkisII on Oct 26, 2004 13:45:17 GMT -5
GREAT M-9, DO tell the truth and shame the 'DEVIL"!!!! 1Dell is making a DISTINCT comparative, he is the LEADER OF HIS household, (wife, childrens, ex-es' nexes' -(LOL, kidding 1Dell), and not of 1,000's of people saying you have the key to their SOULS!!!! HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!! Glad to KNOW that you 'KNOW'!!!! Don't stay in the -NILE! We are not a cult, you are insulting the intelligents of 1,000 of nuwaubians to say we apart of something that causes harm.
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Post by Master-9 on Oct 26, 2004 17:51:03 GMT -5
When you look up the ingredients of a cult, you will see that Nuwaubu is the perfect blend. Nuwaubu has not been taught yet, we are just dispelling the crap like Christianity, Islam, and Hebrew/Israelite doctrines that is keeping our people under spell of sleep
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Post by Nehisi on Oct 26, 2004 21:24:51 GMT -5
Nuwaubu has not been taught yet, we are just dispelling the crap like Christianity, Islam, and Hebrew/Israelite doctrines that is keeping our people under spell of sleep True Dat!!! You know, some people, the majority of our people, are not ready for the truth, the whole truth. They weren't ready when the Honorable Elijah Mohammad with the Honorable Wallace Ford Mohammad started back there in the early 1900's. They couldn't take the whole truth then. They had to first learn and feel like human beings after being treated like low-class cattle for all those years. And even though we were a stronger people back then, that consistant,everyday dealth had to wear them down. So after seeing all those comic strip pictures of Black people over in Afrika- you know the ones, the ones with the big lips and wild and savage. I think the word used by Elijah (PBUH) was "uncivilized". Of course we know today that the people of Afrika "CIVILIZED" the whole world!!! And even today we have people of our own who still want to dominate somebody. They still think they are better than the woman who went through that 400 years of hell with them. Talking about brainwashing!!! Let's make some sense here. If you don't trust and hate the whites because they have allways and still do think they are better than you, therefore telling you a bunch of lies about yo'self - How am I suppose to trust MY MAN who thinks as Elijah (PBUH) puts it- women's minds are smaller than a man's, and she is definitely not equal to a man. Oh yeh, and the BIG ONE!! - She needs to be CONTROL!!!! After all that crap how do you figure are people can listen to anything other than what the whiteman has drilled into the leaders that we have had in the past to drill in to us!!! Don't you see the separation!!!! Also, My religious group is better than your religious group. York invited and included everyone, everyone who wanted to hear regardless of religous background. And all SOME people can talk about is their, oh, I mean his personal life. A truly waste of time. One thing All the leaders knew is that it won't belong before that great and dreadful day. You need to study 'cause ain't nobody been straight up. Peace. Power to the Lamb!!!
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Post by 1dell on Oct 26, 2004 23:31:10 GMT -5
Wow, 30 years down the drain and Nuwaubu hasn't been taught yet? I bet when THOSE books finally do come out they will make york a Millionaire all over again. It took 30 years for york to break a spell? I tell you what, If he is the master magician then spells should be no big thing. Like I told york from the beginning. Those other religious groups that have former christians as members didn't spend a lot of time trying to put down christianity or "break spells" All they did was come offering the BENEFITS of THEIR religion or organization and the christians saw how better it was than christianity and left it and never looked back. That could be why it's taking 30+ years for him to do something so simple. The problem is, york has done a HORRIBLE job at dispelling christianity. I have found numerous errors on EVERY PAGE of that "Paul the Deceiver" "scroll" as I do with everything else he puts out about christianity. But his bread and butter or fools who don't know the bible or christianity that well. He preys on the novice christian that can barely quote 5 scriptures out the bible verbatim. Fools who think "God helps those who help themselves" Is a verse in the bible. REAL Christians york couldn't begin to steal from the flock. Nuwaubu has not been taught yet, we are just dispelling the crap like Christianity, Islam, and Hebrew/Israelite doctrines that is keeping our people under spell of sleep
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Post by BalkisII on Oct 27, 2004 9:43:16 GMT -5
Actually, it's 37 years of worthless information then, since the real truth was not told as of yet! You don't need to tear down someone else's house, in order for yours to look great. If you are such a master builder, then you would just go on ahead and build your magnificent structure, so it could stand for all to see. If this structure is as good as you say it is, then it would show, and people would flock to it, and stay if it is really so. There would be no need to attack another, when you can shine on your own true light. Also, there is no need to concentrate on york's personal life, had it not been so detrimental to the "mission". One can not have a "leader" that is so corrupt in morals, and expect people to just ignore it, and just take in all that you say. After all, we are not just talking about sexing your secreteries, or plain adultery, if one is married, or what you have in the bank or under your bed, but the issue here is MOLESTING YOUNG CHILDREN BOYS AND GIRLS, NOW COME ON... ...WHAT KINDA OF GOD WOULD DO SUCH A THING??? ...WHAT KINDA OF GOD DO YOU FOLLOW??? SURELY A PERVERSE AND VILE ONE! No amount of information will warrant a person ROBBING a CHILD of their INNOCENCE, and possibly CORRUPTING THEM FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE! One (or more) nuwaubian at one time had the GALLS to suggest, "well maybe he was looking for the Christ child"! HOW BY SEXING HIM??? Now if you go by some accounts that tell you that the reptilians feeds of our energy, it is like a drug to them. Now, you get the purest form of energy from children, so YOU GO FIGURE !!!!!
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Post by Master-9 on Oct 27, 2004 18:39:31 GMT -5
Wow, 30 years down the drain and Nuwaubu hasn't been taught yet? I bet when THOSE books finally do come out they will make york a Millionaire all over again. It took 30 years for york to break a spell? I tell you what, If he is the master magician then spells should be no big thing. Like I told york from the beginning. Those other religious groups that have former christians as members didn't spend a lot of time trying to put down christianity or "break spells" All they did was come offering the BENEFITS of THEIR religion or organization and the christians saw how better it was than christianity and left it and never looked back. That could be why it's taking 30+ years for him to do something so simple. The problem is, york has done a HORRIBLE job at dispelling christianity. I have found numerous errors on EVERY PAGE of that "Paul the Deceiver" "scroll" as I do with everything else he puts out about christianity. But his bread and butter or fools who don't know the bible or christianity that well. He preys on the novice christian that can barely quote 5 scriptures out the bible verbatim. Fools who think "God helps those who help themselves" Is a verse in the bible. REAL Christians york couldn't begin to steal from the flock. It is more than coverting souls, its cleaing the mind of the filth of White man worship. Just because I change my religion doesn't mean my mind has chamged. In the 30+ years he has been teaching the mummies, he has left little codes for the chosen seed to awaken. The Most High amongst us already said that when the alignment happens it will make you manifest the real you. Some people among us was were devils like Balkiss and her whorish duaghter, they are doing what they are supposed to do. 1dell you couldn't stand five seconds face to face with our Neter, so stop your crap. If you so good in your studies, go to our new comers class held on saturdays at 4pm on Auburn Ave and watch Pops sons stump that ass with facts.
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Post by 1dell on Oct 28, 2004 0:25:00 GMT -5
I would love to bro, But I have to work. I used to get that a lot. Nuwuabians telling me that I would get my assed kicked with facts. SIGH. Maybe those brothers will make your average run of the mill Willey Nilley christian off the street look bad. But It aint happening here bru. Sorry. It's easy to get over on people who have never read the book and didn't bother to research the history but I have. I have seen york's errors and have corrected them. I am about tired of telling nuwaubians who like to put their hopes in york's son's ability to "tear that ass" (like father like son) with "facts" that just because they impress you (who have never read the bible) don't mean they can stand against me. I mean if I have proven the father/master wrong it's a small thing to prove the student/son wrong. It is more than coverting souls, its cleaing the mind of the filth of White man worship. Just because I change my religion doesn't mean my mind has chamged. In the 30+ years he has been teaching the mummies, he has left little codes for the chosen seed to awaken. The Most High amongst us already said that when the alignment happens it will make you manifest the real you. Some people among us was were devils like Balkiss and her whorish duaghter, they are doing what they are supposed to do. 1dell you couldn't stand five seconds face to face with our Neter, so stop your crap. If you so good in your studies, go to our new comers class held on saturdays at 4pm on Auburn Ave and watch Pops sons stump that ass with facts.
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Post by ELTRUTH on Oct 28, 2004 2:02:25 GMT -5
... he has left little codes for the chosen seed to awaken.... he did leave alot of CODES and those SEEDS have awaken- that is why he is were he is today . u ever stop to wonder- if there were cases that he ALSO plead guilty to from WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY back in the 60's and he has FINALLY been made to face the music- maybe its HIS karma FINALLY catching up with him . he gave MANY signs- he said he is the EVIL 'twin'. a disagreable, he asked certain sister on the land if they ever wondered why he takes SOME of the girls and boys and and NOT the others- even went so far as to say if they r wondering how come their kid doesnt go when he takes others out- they should wonder what are the OTHER kids doing that their's is NOT. he CONSTANTLY joked about having HOME GROWN PUSSY , and wall to wall pussy- wow- what a role model-he even told a bunch of us upstate- what if in the end we found out that we followed the wrong person and HE led us to hell . but then on the other hand he ALSO taught to FOLLOW the rules of the land u live in... so wether its sudanese culture, rizqiyan culture, etc etc- its not AMERICAN CULTURE or LAWS!...i guess he didnt practice what he preached? then he wants to turn around and call the people he raised AND threatend NAMES for standing up and TELLINg the truth? even AFTER he ADMITTED to it? give me a BREAK!
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Oct 28, 2004 12:46:11 GMT -5
1dell - you know what? When you were breaking down the errors in that scroll on Paul - of all the Nuwaubians that would be on and off this board - I dont recall anyone debunking what you said.. Seems like at least one person would've been up in there showing how YOU were wrong and York was right. The fact is you WERE right about that scroll (and more I am sure) and EVERYONE knew it. The odds say if that scroll was full of trash - more of them probably were. I noticed a lot of the scrolls have all the same info in them - increasing the chances that even more were wrong as well. I agree also- many people that haven't read the Bible are easily fooled by York. The more I study the more easily I see his errors. It is easy to convince someone when they have very little first hand knowlege. I would love to bro, But I have to work. I used to get that a lot. Nuwuabians telling me that I would get my assed kicked with facts. SIGH. Maybe those brothers will make your average run of the mill Willey Nilley christian off the street look bad. But It aint happening here bru. Sorry. It's easy to get over on people who have never read the book and didn't bother to research the history but I have. I have seen york's errors and have corrected them. I am about tired of telling nuwaubians who like to put their hopes in york's son's ability to "tear that ass" (like father like son) with "facts" that just because they impress you (who have never read the bible) don't mean they can stand against me. I mean if I have proven the father/master wrong it's a small thing to prove the student/son wrong.
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Post by 1dell on Oct 28, 2004 13:23:12 GMT -5
True, Master9 even went so far as to email a slew of nuwaubiancentric yahoo groups and told them about this site. Many joined and no one said a thing. I guess it didn't reach York's beloved sons. Surely they would have come here and righted me. Point blank. York isn't even impressive. What I am impressed with is his ability to deceive people with this information for as long as he did. What makes it so bad is that it APPEARS that york read the bible, but even then screwed that up. I mean anyone who could read a book and come away with as many errors as he has about that book. I be doggone if I could trust them to study any other information and be correct. Carelessness is a habit that permeates all other areas of a man's life. If he was that careless with his biblical scholastics, then whats that to say about the other stuff he read? 1dell - you know what? When you were breaking down the errors in that scroll on Paul - of all the Nuwaubians that would be on and off this board - I dont recall anyone debunking what you said.. Seems like at least one person would've been up in there showing how YOU were wrong and York was right. The fact is you WERE right about that scroll (and more I am sure) and EVERYONE knew it. The odds say if that scroll was full of trash - more of them probably were. I noticed a lot of the scrolls have all the same info in them - increasing the chances that even more were wrong as well. I agree also- many people that haven't read the Bible are easily fooled by York. The more I study the more easily I see his errors. It is easy to convince someone when they have very little first hand knowlege.
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Post by Master-9 on Oct 28, 2004 20:28:41 GMT -5
Not even worth it.....
Peace
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Post by ELTRUTH on Oct 28, 2004 23:00:11 GMT -5
... I noticed a lot of the scrolls have all the same info in them - increasing the chances that even more were wrong as well...many of the books had the same info becasue it was REPEATED in different ways, york taught that the GAME was lets say you have 1 sentence of 'truths' to tell- he said DONT put it in ONE book- even if it could fit- but to put a little in one book - a WHOLE lot of adds advertising otehr books (for sales$$$) and make the quotes big with alot of space, so its like an incomplete sentence u get hooked becasue it leaves u hanging so u buy the next book hoping it would finish the SENTENCE and thought and u realized- BAM!!! some mo' ads for products that are not out, dontation begging , big quotes 'translated' in 5 different languages (if u understood the english- why add the others???) and STILL the sentence in the end, was not complete. he also used that stratagey in answering questions- he said all u have to do is take someone AROUND the question, and fill them with some much 'info' they dont realize he hasnt answered the question- yeah he has alot of skills of deception- but like someone else here said- THAT is why his world is crumbling. the reason those nuwaubians DIDNT say anything becasue they COULDNT- they havent gotten the 'rest of the sentence' yet
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Post by Master-9 on Oct 29, 2004 6:49:33 GMT -5
the reason those nuwaubians DIDNT say anything becasue they COULDNT- they havent gotten the 'rest of the sentence' yet The reason why they didn't come here is that this place has to many demons....why waste time?
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Post by 1dell on Oct 29, 2004 7:17:01 GMT -5
I peeped that game long time ago. I can used to work for a publishing company as a graphic designer and typesetter. The guy I worked for who owned the company employed the same strategy and was a millionaire by age 30. So when I read a few york books I just shook my head. I still to this day try and figure out what it is that keeps a yorkite hooked even when this man's personal life has been exposed to be a fraud.I mean the VERY SAME man who in many of his books would put down christian, islamic, jewish and other leaders down for their own personal foibles like greed, money issues, sexual promiscuity, child molestations, and other scandals. I mean I can remember him doing this in the beginning of the book "360 Questions to ask a christian" Talking about Jim Baker and putting him down for the scandal he was involved in. etc etc. And HE was saying that because this man had committed such things he was not one to be followed. Now here we are and York HIMSELF is on the dissecting table should he be judged by the VERY SAME standard he wanted his members to judge Jim Baker by? HELL YES!!!! But the mastermind behind his strategy: Try and tear down one's religion, then feed them my incomplete religion filled with incomplete sentences and mind twisting rherotic. Is a good one and has been quite effective. Because once you tear down someone's religion (which NO ONE who is supremely dedicated to their religion can be swayed from it by york) then they have nowhere to go, they have no choice but to continue in what you feed them. But I am proud of the many nuwaubians who have returned back to their religions and the others who have discovered other paths moor fullfilling and conducive to their goals. I commend them. Another strategy that keeps people stuck in that web is promises of a better tomorrow and a change of identity. A lot of people would love to undue the mistakes in their past and if they are taught they can do that with a simple name change and become something new and supposedly better then they will jump at the chance to do so. Being told they are gods is like giving out free crack to crackheads. People will eat that up. Especially people like us who have low self esteem to begin with and don't have the heritage in this country we can universally be proud of. If you take one before that heritage to a time when you could say we did great things and negotiate the recent past and tweak it, you too can keep a loyal following many of the books had the same info becasue it was REPEATED in different ways, york taught that the GAME was lets say you have 1 sentence of 'truths' to tell- he said DONT put it in ONE book- even if it could fit- but to put a little in one book - a WHOLE lot of adds advertising otehr books (for sales$$$) and make the quotes big with alot of space, so its like an incomplete sentence u get hooked becasue it leaves u hanging so u buy the next book hoping it would finish the SENTENCE and thought and u realized- BAM!!! some mo' ads for products that are not out, dontation begging , big quotes 'translated' in 5 different languages (if u understood the english- why add the others???) and STILL the sentence in the end, was not complete. he also used that stratagey in answering questions- he said all u have to do is take someone AROUND the question, and fill them with some much 'info' they dont realize he hasnt answered the question- yeah he has alot of skills of deception- but like someone else here said- THAT is why his world is crumbling. the reason those nuwaubians DIDNT say anything becasue they COULDNT- they havent gotten the 'rest of the sentence' yet
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