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Post by 1dell on Feb 17, 2004 19:04:22 GMT -5
I FOR one can't speak for everyone because I am an Aries and I just frankly don't play that ish!
I was in the Marine Corps and I had selective brainwashing. All that stuff that made me harder and tougher I absorbed but that ish that they wanted from me like laying on a grenade or some ish
I kept the brainwashing routine in check like when we were out there in Saudi and they wanted us to take them tablets to protect us from chem warfare. I aint take but one and then it came to me dayum this!
So no matter how thorough the brainwashing system, it's not like utter mind control
but wait
I am rethinking that because I KNOW for a fact that york uses mind seducing technology like in his music and tapes and i innerstand that there is a humming pyramid on the land that hums constantly, i could be wrong on this. hell he is privy to the H.A.A.R.P. technology and had the money to mimic it I am sure.
Thats a new angle on this, I believe for anyone to do what these people did they have to have had their brainwaves altered
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Post by SatiyaH on Feb 17, 2004 20:04:38 GMT -5
This method of controlling brain waves with low frequency input is not new at all! In the 1930’s researchers found that repetitive light and/or sound stimulation caused brain waves to adjust to the same frequency. For decades now, some “new age gurus” and other cult leaders made extensive use of repetitive sound pulses, often of the inaudible and subliminal kind. This helps them to cause their captive audiences to be more receptive to their preaching. Much earlier than that, as far back in time as the very dawn of humankind, shamans used drumming (repetitive pulses, or beats, of low frequency) to put their audiences into altered states and cause them to have experiences that they would not have in their normal state of daily activities. In our times, this type of pulse, or “beat” is used in many events where the capturing of audiences and the temporary control of their habits (or minds) is considered to be important, such as in fashion shows, exercise machine advertising, commercials, military training, church meetings, and TV infomercial pitches to the public, to name just a few.
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Post by Nubian Ninjah on Feb 17, 2004 20:41:56 GMT -5
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Post by theman on Feb 17, 2004 23:16:51 GMT -5
I agree wholeheartedly I have to say I agree with both Kah and Satiyah- sortof.. let me explain.. I agree that when people are abused and brainwashed (or stripped of their self esteem) that to a certain degree this abused person can be bent to someone else's will .. but at some point that person has to wake up, stand up, and stand up for themselves.. I heard a saying once, "People only do you what you ALLOW them to do." At some point you have to take responsibility for what you have done or allowed to be done to you- regardless of what got you to that point in the first place. I came from a physically and mentally abusive relationship of almost 6 yrs.. I do take a portion of the blame because after the first or second time he hit me I didnt leave. I was an adult and I had the ability to leave if i wanted to.. he didnt threaten me with death or anything. I was just young and scared. But one day it just came to me- i could keep letting life happen to me or I could take back my life.. I DO NOT think it was ok for York to abuse his "power" to sex all those women, however, I also do not think that it was ok for those women to sleep with him because they were separated from their own mate.. or because he was the supposed "savior".. To me.. that would've raised a red flag- why would such a holy, righteous man if he is indeed so, sleep with many women? I dont care how you tried to explain it to me- it wouldn't have chimed right- in my head. Or separating me from my family and friends- another red flag. You would have to kill me dead- to separate my family and me. Like Kah said, there was a lot of blame to spread around for what happened.. with the exception of the children- they never had a choice. Kah mentioned the children seeing the women behave that way and made them think that behavior was ok.. I fully believe that we as parents have to watch every move we make because we are our children's FIRST and most important role model. We have to be doubly sure that our behavior demonstrates what we expect from our children.. and if you dont set up a good guide to follow then you are partially to blame. And the men- how could you put your wives out there to allow something like that to go on?? One last thing.. i keep hearing the arguement from other nuwaubians that 17 is legal age of consent in some places.. that may be so.. but truly how mature is the average 17 yr old?? not very.. and what could a man of his age possibly have in common with a child of 17?? NOt a damn thing.. and so WHAT if that 17 yr old had slept with other boys?? York was just as wrong for condoning that behavior. |
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Post by theman on Feb 17, 2004 23:19:40 GMT -5
Preach sister Preach. Clap!!!! Clap!!! Clap!!!!!! As it stands, I never lived on the land. However, the negativity that exuded from those that did live there as we interacted with them showed the dismal mentality of the people. Also, the way the people lived is a testimony to what became a breeding ground of despondency. The sisters on the land could better tell you what abuse they endured. Yet going by the fact that some women accepted a man not respecting them as his wife, not taking care of his family responsibilities or telling her to perform vile acts, not to mention whatever verbal abuse was enacted, to me is accepting abuse. Showing the degradation of the persons mindset to accept nonsense. At best, the abuse was simply living for York and not for the benefit of the movement. Peace! |
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Post by ELTRUTH on Feb 18, 2004 1:34:31 GMT -5
courtney made a GREAT point: "I was just young and scared. But one day it just came to me- i could keep letting life happen to me or I could take back my life.. "[/size] people wonder why all this is comming out .... she just said it .... people started taking back their life and realizing he only had control becasue they had forgotten THEY had any say/control in their own lives...all the victims are children or were children that was rasied there by him. he used to BRAG about how he hand picked certain kids to be 'groomed' by him those people he calls 'demons and sell outs now' are the SAME people he was praising and 'showing off' for years - from the truth magazines - down to the holy tablets. and when people realized after they have 'steped out' of the circle or box of IGNORANCE and CONTROL and ENSLAVEMNT and realize the could have been differnt, they could have had a choice, they didnt have to stay and suffer- who WOULDNT be upset? or realizing that the life they lived on a day to day basis was soo far from NORMAL reality and the norm- who wouldnt be upset? besides kathy- ALL those vicitms/witnesses young AND old were all UNDER 17 years of age when doc FIRST hand picked them into his devilshment- even the young women who were arrested with him- all 3 of them was under 15 years of age when he was having sexual relationship with them ... ALSO i aggree with courtney on EVEN if a 17 year old was sexually active - what gives him the RIGHT to feel he can take that? why would he want that ? he is sopposed to be this elder from another planet- with billions of years of knowledge and maturity- even if they had a crush on him HE should have been mature enought to SET the straight- and do the right thing by them- and by himself- he is '76 billion/trillion years old and he dont know a 17 year old is NOT in his catagory? he didnt forsee were his vile behavior would land him? he says obey the laws of the land- yet he brakes all the rules? what gives? NONE OF THOSE VICTIMS/WITNESSES WERE AT LEAST 17 YEARS OR OLDER WHEN DOC FIRST STARTED 'GROOMING' THEM! THEY WERE ALL BETWEEN THE AGES OF 4-15 WHEN DOC FIRST STARTED HAVE ANY FORMS OF SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM- THATS INCLUDING THE GIRLS ARRESTED AND MANY OF HIS YOUNG AND YOUNG ADULT WITNESS THAT GOT UP ON THE STAND TO LIE ON HIS BEHALF[/size]  |
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Post by imaangel on Mar 1, 2004 13:23:32 GMT -5
Family,
Air Freshener - please! Swoosh
This message is for ALL true Nuwaubians. Creeps and knuckleheads need not respond. Don't fall for the gutter talk. Enemies congregate on this site whose mission is to discuss Maku. They hope to bait you in. Allow them to discuss it amongst themselves. Don't swim in their filth. They think that character bashing and attacking Nuwaubians will assist them in their mission. They are fools. We teach TRUTH and that is all. If you must speak up, defend and set the record straight. I see some us are doing just that. Stick to the facts. Don't discuss our Maku with low lifers. Beat 'em down with the facts. All they have is anger and contempt, which means their talk is nonsense.
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Post by BalkisII on Mar 1, 2004 16:27:34 GMT -5
Yeah fallen angel, negativity, oozes all over your post, you almost can peal the LAYERS! And when all else fails, name callings and insults  Yes, spray on, because your house -nuwaubu, stinks  You are so contradictory, that we already KNOW that when you say you speak the truth, it IS a lie, and that somewhere within your post you always divulge some truths about yourselves: "All they, (THE NUWAUBIANS)have is anger and contempt, which means their talk is nonsense. "! Sure you RIGTH! Family, Air Freshener - please! Swoosh This message is for ALL true Nuwaubians. Creeps and knuckleheads need not respond. Don't fall for the gutter talk. Enemies congregate on this site whose mission is to discuss Maku. They hope to bait you in. Allow them to discuss it amongst themselves. Don't swim in their filth. They think that character bashing and attacking Nuwaubians will assist them in their mission. They are fools. We teach TRUTH and that is all. If you must speak up, defend and set the record straight. I see some us are doing just that. Stick to the facts. Don't discuss our Maku with low lifers. Beat 'em down with the facts. All they have is anger and contempt, which means their talk is nonsense. |
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Post by Ralph on Mar 1, 2004 18:52:53 GMT -5
Family, Air Freshener - please! Swoosh This message is for ALL true Nuwaubians. Creeps and knuckleheads need not respond. Don't fall for the gutter talk. Enemies congregate on this site whose mission is to discuss Maku. They hope to bait you in. Allow them to discuss it amongst themselves. Don't swim in their filth. They think that character bashing and attacking Nuwaubians will assist them in their mission. They are fools. We teach TRUTH and that is all. If you must speak up, defend and set the record straight. I see some us are doing just that. Stick to the facts. Don't discuss our Maku with low lifers. Beat 'em down with the facts. All they have is anger and contempt, which means their talk is nonsense. I can still smell your feet.... |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Mar 1, 2004 19:11:22 GMT -5
ewwwwwwwwwwww lol I can still smell your feet.... |
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Post by ELTRUTH on Mar 1, 2004 23:41:29 GMT -5
well balkis u have a point...
DOC ALWAYS SAID IF SOMEONE CALLS THEMSELF AND ANGEL- THEY ARE EITHER AN ANGEL FALLING DOWN (FROM GRACE) OR AN AGNEL COMMING UP (FROM HELL) EITHER WAY ACCORDING TO HER MASTERS DOCTRIN THAT MAKES HER A DEMON ON THIS PLANET RIGHT NOW!
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Post by Master-9 on Mar 1, 2004 23:46:17 GMT -5
well balkis u have a point...
DOC ALWAYS SAID IF SOMEONE CALLS THEMSELF AND ANGEL- THEY ARE EITHER AN ANGEL FALLING DOWN (FROM GRACE) OR AN AGNEL COMMING UP (FROM HELL) EITHER WAY ACCORDING TO HER MASTERS DOCTRIN THAT MAKES HER A DEMON ON THIS PLANET RIGHT NOW!
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Post by ELTRUTH on Mar 2, 2004 9:54:07 GMT -5
so are u ADMITTING that YOU know she IS a demon? 
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Post by chephren on Mar 2, 2004 10:35:19 GMT -5
We all have come short of the glory of El Yahuwah There is salvation yet for you M-9 you again articulate how you keep coming up short ...SPEAK FOR YOURSELF!Your post is a reflection of your inward feelings.... |
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Post by Master-9 on Mar 3, 2004 23:09:16 GMT -5
There is salvation yet for you M-9 you again articulate how you keep coming up short ...SPEAK FOR YOURSELF!Your post is a reflection of your inward feelings.... So you are a perfect being with no defections in body or in mind? |
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