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Post by CoUrTnEy on Jan 28, 2004 20:38:39 GMT -5
I would just like to ask a question here.. why is it that York tells us to judge certain people's work/writing by their character (i.e. Paul), but he does not and/or his followers do not hold him up to the same standards? It is admitted by many Nuwaubians that he has slept with many women (and lets forget about the underage problem for a moment).. just the fact that he would sleep with so many women shows an inherent disrespect for- not only the women- but also himself.. so if he cares so little for himself then how could you be so naive to think that he thinks more of you?? and if he thinks so little of you... WHY ON EARTH do you think he would be compelled to lead you to your "salvation"?? A man's character helps give some insight into his motivation for doing things.. if he spends a majority of his life sleeping around.. common sense will tell you what his motivation is.. A nuwaubian aquaintance once told me that he didnt care if York ran down the street naked with 3 hookers-that it had nothing to do with the outfo he was giving his followers.. but i disagree.. it has EVERYTHING to do with it..
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Jan 28, 2004 20:43:08 GMT -5
I dont want that kind of person responsible for directing my soul to heaven.. It is also like people that tell little white lies.. My view is once you told a little white lie you have blown your credibility to shreds.. In my mind I am wondering if you would lie about something so small.. how difficult would it be for you to lie about a big time thing..
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Post by Master-9 on Jan 28, 2004 20:43:35 GMT -5
just the fact that he would sleep with so many women shows an inherent disrespect for- not only the women- but also himself.. I assume you are a female We moors don't have a problem in laying that pipett
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Jan 28, 2004 20:46:25 GMT -5
Yeah isnt that what has gotten York into the fix he is in now?? I dont think that is something that has bragging rights.. even dogs can lay the pipe..lol
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Post by Amunhotep on Jan 28, 2004 22:05:59 GMT -5
Was anybody there when these things that they accuse York took place? Or are we all going by speculation? Im curious. I don't believe in convicting a man of a crime unless there is some concrete evidence. I havent seen any in York's case. Can someone present some, if I missed soemthing. To me it seems like they're trying to get another brother. good day to you all.
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Post by SatiyaH on Jan 28, 2004 22:24:51 GMT -5
Was anybody there when these things that they accuse York took place? Or are we all going by speculation? Im curious. I don't believe in convicting a man of a crime unless there is some concrete evidence. I havent seen any in York's case. Can someone present some, if I missed soemthing. To me it seems like they're trying to get another brother. good day to you all. You forget what the media reported back when the raid occured. They confiscated truckloads of what they termed to be "evidence". They said there was enough to fill 2 courtrooms and it took them weeks to sort through it all. They had to read thru books, notes, documents, get into the harddrive of the computers, go thru videos--if anyone was ever in classes, you could have seen hundreds, maybe over 1,000 video tapes lining the walls--pedophiles have in the past been known to hide footage on what seems like an innocent movie tape...you fast forward a little and there it is. To check ,they had to go thru all those tapes to find things--if anything at all. This was MERELY THE FEDERAL CASE which only had 6 counts of molestation and 7 counts of racketeering. Not all the "evidence" found at Tamare and Athens was used in this trial. Not everything that was used at this trial was disclosed to the media. 13wmaz just reported a couple days ago that with the recent conviction the Prosecutors are just now allowing some evidence to go public. The media mentioned a journal recording 86 of Yorks children with 45 different mothers. The prosecution revealed finding 40 weapons. How that was used in the trial was not mentioned. There is still a state trial for York if he chooses to withdraw his guilty plea. His attorney said he would, but he has not yet done so. If he does withdraw, then you must realize he need not be convicted of all 208 counts, it will only take a conviction of 1 to give him 10 or more years. 2 or three can give him over 150 years because after one conviction, your sentence increases. Let me ask you, what do you think the odds are of them finding him guilty of at least 1 count of molestation out of 208? Let me ask you, do you recall the charges against him in the state's case? It isn't the same as the Federal. The state has him charged with rape, aggravated molestation (meaning the child suffered injury), sodomy and aggravated sodomy. For aggravated sodomy, the punishment is 10 to 20 years or life in prison. Child Molestation - O.C.G.A. 16-6-4 In order to prove child molestation, the state must prove that the accused performed an immoral or indecent act to or in presence of any child under 16 with intent to arouse the sexual desires of either the child or the person. THEY ONLY HAVE TO PROVE HE HAD PERFORMED SEX IN FRONT OF KIDS, THUS NO NEED FOR EVIDENCE OF PHYSICAL CONTACT---LEARN THE LAWS OF THE STATE YOU LIVE IN! Punishment: Felony; 5 to 20 years in prison for first conviction, life or 10 to 20 years in prison for second conviction. On a first conviction, the offender may get probation and counseling instead of prison sentence.
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Post by Master-9 on Jan 28, 2004 22:40:01 GMT -5
What does he got to lose, Satiyah?
We are going to fight the Beast with everything we got.... Its sell-outs and lying niggers that are our biggest problem as a nubian(black,etc) people.
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Post by Amunhotep on Jan 28, 2004 23:01:38 GMT -5
"you forget what the media reported.." That's exactly what I am talking about.
As I listen to different sides, some things to me seem like people have personal vendettas against york. I wasn't there with him so I really don't know, but I think he's innocent. I hope he wins his appeal and is released because I would like for him to put things in proper perspective. Good day
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Post by Amunhotep on Jan 28, 2004 23:02:55 GMT -5
master9, How long have you been a follower of york?
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Post by Master-9 on Jan 28, 2004 23:06:46 GMT -5
My good brother, all these slanderers will face the most high one day, but for now the truth will come swiftly. Its sad that niggers still root on the white(pale)-man when he attacks our leaders. I don't blame satiyah, because it is in her nature to oppose our spiritual powers. but niggers like Jazzy & crew...sad...sad...sad They are sell-outs and they are trying to reason out why they are. I hope I never meet a slanderer in person
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Jan 28, 2004 23:08:09 GMT -5
I want to remind everyone that i did say in the original post of this thread.. and i quote "lets forget about the underage problem for a moment".. I was talking about his sleeping with numerous women in general.. to which HIS OWN FOLLOWERS ADMIT TO.. I was not speaking of the child molestation accusations..even M9 made the comment "We moors don't have a problem in laying that pipett ..." Anyone with any kind of common sense can read between the lines on that statement.. as far as concrete evidence.. well lets see.. wouldn't DNA EVIDENCE be concrete.. we all know everyone's DNA info is unique to each individual.. except in some identical twin cases.. so would you be suggesting that his evil identical twin fathered those children..
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Post by Ralph on Jan 28, 2004 23:10:42 GMT -5
"you forget what the media reported.." That's exactly what I am talking about. As I listen to different sides, some things to me seem like people have personal vendettas against york. I wasn't there with him so I really don't know, but I think he's innocent. I hope he wins his appeal and is released because I would like for him to put things in proper perspective. Good day Do you think that he is innocent, or do you know???
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Jan 28, 2004 23:17:14 GMT -5
I have noticed something interesting.. why is when people on this board post anti-york (or SEEMINGLY anti-york) articles the york followers say how the media is the devil and not to believe what the media reports.. but let the media publish something in favor of York.. suddenly it's the Holy Gospel?
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Post by Amunhotep on Jan 28, 2004 23:51:18 GMT -5
calm down yall, don't jump on me because I said i think he was inncoent. That's how I felt. The point you brought up about the dna is a prime example courtney. I could rebutt back by mentioning the DNA test that showed that york hadn't touched any children in a sexual manner. this makes me think he is more innocent because I stated how I felt and all of a sudden i got smart remarks back(Ralph). Whether york slept with alot of women is his prerogitive, im saying that those followers who you say admitted to it, were they there, or are you believing what they say because they carry the title nuwaubian? Good day
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Post by BalkisII on Jan 29, 2004 6:08:53 GMT -5
You forget what the media reported back when the raid occured. They confiscated truckloads of what they termed to be "evidence". They said there was enough to fill 2 courtrooms and it took them weeks to sort through it all. They had to read thru books, notes, documents, get into the harddrive of the computers, go thru videos--if anyone was ever in classes, you could have seen hundreds, maybe over 1,000 video tapes lining the walls--pedophiles have in the past been known to hide footage on what seems like an innocent movie tape...you fast forward a little and there it is. To check ,they had to go thru all those tapes to find things--if anything at all. This was MERELY THE FEDERAL CASE which only had 6 counts of molestation and 7 counts of racketeering. Not all the "evidence" found at Tamare and Athens was used in this trial. Not everything that was used at this trial was disclosed to the media. 13wmaz just reported a couple days ago that with the recent conviction the Prosecutors are just now allowing some evidence to go public. The media mentioned a journal recording 86 of Yorks children with 45 different mothers. The prosecution revealed finding 40 weapons. How that was used in the trial was not mentioned. There is still a state trial for York if he chooses to withdraw his guilty plea. His attorney said he would, but he has not yet done so. If he does withdraw, then you must realize he need not be convicted of all 208 counts, it will only take a conviction of 1 to give him 10 or more years. 2 or three can give him over 150 years because after one conviction, your sentence increases. Let me ask you, what do you think the odds are of them finding him guilty of at least 1 count of molestation out of 208? Let me ask you, do you recall the charges against him in the state's case? It isn't the same as the Federal. The state has him charged with rape, aggravated molestation (meaning the child suffered injury), sodomy and aggravated sodomy. For aggravated sodomy, the punishment is 10 to 20 years or life in prison. Child Molestation - O.C.G.A. 16-6-4 In order to prove child molestation, the state must prove that the accused performed an immoral or indecent act to or in presence of any child under 16 with intent to arouse the sexual desires of either the child or the person. THEY ONLY HAVE TO PROVE HE HAD PERFORMED SEX IN FRONT OF KIDS, THUS NO NEED FOR EVIDENCE OF PHYSICAL CONTACT---LEARN THE LAWS OF THE STATE YOU LIVE IN! Punishment: Felony; 5 to 20 years in prison for first conviction, life or 10 to 20 years in prison for second conviction. On a first conviction, the offender may get probation and counseling instead of prison sentence. "Was anybody there when these things that they accuse York took place? Or are we all going by speculation?" Dis you miss the part where ACTUAL WITNESSES GOT UP AT THE TRIAL AND SAID THAT NOT ONLY DID HE HAVE SEX WITH THEM FROM WHEN THEY WERE 13-15 (WHICH SOME OF YOU DON'T SEEM TO MIND ), BUT, THEY WITH THEIR OWN EYES SAW HIM HAVE SEX WITH CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS 4 YRS. OF AGE!!! "The media mentioned a journal recording 86 of Yorks children with 45 different mothers." That "journal", happens to be a Ansaaru Allah' calendar with the pictures of the prophets, and THAT WAS BACK IN 1989!!! So ADD to that, 13 YEARS MOOR "If he does withdraw, then you must realize he need not be convicted of all 208 counts, it will only take a conviction of 1 to give him 10 or more years. 2 or three can give him over 150 years because after one conviction, your sentence increases. Let me ask you, what do you think the odds are of them finding him guilty of at least 1 count of molestation out of 208?" DO THE MATH!
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