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Post by ELHARU on Oct 31, 2003 21:15:32 GMT -5
It is impossible for them to have eaten from the tree of life because they would have lived for ever even with the knowledge of Good/Evil. Look what the vrs. says, Genesis 3.22, " And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:". See NAR, the script. is plain. It states that had Adam and Eve ate from both trees, they would have lived for ever while knowing good/evil. But in your argument, youre claiming that they were already eating from the tree of life. If this were the case then they would have beat the elohim to the punch and avoided the above vrs. I quoted. Peace "They" Knew they would eventually die of old age, Even though instant was applied was originally applied their. Gen 2:17 "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, though shalt not eat of it: For in the day that thout eatest thereof though shalt surely die[/b]." Adam knew of Death.Why would you be afraid of something you didn't know of. There was a "Stay of exectution"! [/color]
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Post by kAHANyAH on Oct 31, 2003 21:50:49 GMT -5
Hmmmm... I had to goto the hebrew and see what is goin on in that vrs. and here is what I came up with. The word "die" as used in the vrs. you quote is from the hebrew muwth which means to be EXECUTED [killed]. This is not NATURAL DEATH where your body dies from old age or ailments or whathave you. Muwth is when executioners come and kill you. Would I liken it to CRUCIFYING ? Yes. Just LIKE JESUS who ate of the same fruits given to him by the holy ghost (eve) at the final supper and was then killed by the roman executioners.
Adam wasn't afraid of natural death which denotes living a full life. He was afraid of BEING EXECUTED ; premature death for disobedience (eating the forbidden fruit).
When Adam was created he had TEMPORAL existence until he was ready to eat the fruits of the tree of life, giving him ETERNAL existence. But this was on the condition he did not eat the fruits of knowledge because then his temporal and eternal would have been TERMINATED.
Adam was most likely fearful of being crucified.
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Post by ELHARU on Oct 31, 2003 22:16:43 GMT -5
Adam and his mate Eve were exempt from the labor with dots connect too the Shumerians of labor of death... Adam knew that death was not end of life, but Only a door way.. too the higher life.evevually too The Bosum too THE MOST HIGH.
So out of that EL,.. was that People strayed after ignorance of what actually happened in the enclosed GArden, an extreme dislike was built up against.Death. Something that is feared becmes a taboo, so death was a mystery and look at fear too this very day!
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Post by ELHARU on Oct 31, 2003 22:18:15 GMT -5
Die and death are mentioned different.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Oct 31, 2003 22:22:23 GMT -5
True dat, true dat. Peace. Die and death are mentioned different.
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Post by ELHARU on Oct 31, 2003 22:24:45 GMT -5
The hebrew word for "death" is Mooth, which is an egiptian word for TRUTH (Ma'aT). The apparent reason they were commanded not to eat of the Etz khay was that they would have found out the TRUTH (mooth) about their nakedness (arum). Nakhash helped in uncovering that truth, and hence breaking the spell. Gen21:16.. Maveth < Maw'-Veth>
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Post by NAR on Nov 1, 2003 13:28:54 GMT -5
Genesis chapter two verse sixteen speaks of Yahuwa Elohim giving adam permission to eat freely of every tree in the Garden (the citadel). This includes the ets khay, the tree of life, which was one of those trees in the garden. The hebrew word for Tree (ets) is cognate of the Maia word for a sacred substance called ITZ (i.e. Rain, tree sap). It is impossible for them to have eaten from the tree of life because they would have lived for ever even with the knowledge of Good/Evil. Look what the vrs. says, Genesis 3.22, " And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:". See NAR, the script. is plain. It states that had Adam and Eve ate from both trees, they would have lived for ever while knowing good/evil. But in your argument, youre claiming that they were already eating from the tree of life. If this were the case then they would have beat the elohim to the punch and avoided the above vrs. I quoted. Peace
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Post by NAR on Nov 1, 2003 13:59:33 GMT -5
Keep in mind that the Holy Bible (El Bib Yloh) provides a small minded concept of a greater perception (a greater world view). Adam and Ishshah beheld this greater perception after learning about the "Ayin" principal from the wisest of all beasts, the nagas (hebrew nakhash) of the land called Sadeh (Sutekh). The letter AYIN is the 16 th letter in the hebrew alpha-bet. Its significance is "divine providence (foresight)." 1+6 = 7 Genesis chapter two verse sixteen speaks of Yahuwa Elohim giving adam permission to eat freely of every tree in the Garden (the citadel). This includes the ets khay, the tree of life, which was one of those trees in the garden. The hebrew word for Tree (ets) is cognate of the Maia word for a sacred substance called ITZ (i.e. Rain, tree sap).
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Post by NAR on Nov 3, 2003 21:37:30 GMT -5
Hotep El Haru9 In appears that the Hebrew Maveth or Maweth (muth) is more apted to be the Egiptian Mut (Mistress of the nine arrows, Mother) than the Egiptian Ma'at (truth). Linguistically, Muth is Death, which is the hebrew Da'ath that is Knowledge. Gen21:16.. Maveth < Maw'-Veth>
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