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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 19, 2004 13:19:16 GMT -5
One ref., in scripture hinting to this is, Rev 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God
The word Alleluia means Lucifer is Jah. Lucifer was worshipped as a moon god.
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Post by NAR on Aug 19, 2004 18:09:09 GMT -5
Alleluiah is a word symphony for the Arabic phrase Al-Ilahu, which is ALLAH.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 19, 2004 18:13:34 GMT -5
And we all know the history on ALLAH [halal] as the moon god. Alleluiah is a word symphony for the Arabic phrase Al-Ilahu, which is ALLAH.
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Post by GTOM on Aug 19, 2004 20:02:49 GMT -5
LUCIPHER and ALLELUIA do have the same ROOT WORD. "HE SHONE, SHINE, RADIANT, GLORIFY, PRAISE." But it does not mean that Lucipher is Jah in the sence of Lucipher the Angel. Remember One is a Noun and the Other is a Verb
Example : There is a Difference between being Anointed and being The Messiah.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 19, 2004 20:07:20 GMT -5
Peace GTO, The attribute "to shine" or Halal is exclusive and held by LUCIFERIANS. So again, Jah is a luciferian because jah is an entity that shines. ONLY LUCIFER SHINES. Peace. LUCIPHER and ALLELUIA do have the same ROOT WORD. "HE SHONE, SHINE, RADIANT, GLORIFY, PRAISE." But it does not mean that Lucipher is Jah in the sence of Lucipher the Angel. Remember One is a Noun and the Other is a Verb There is a Difference between being Anointed and being The Messiah.
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Post by GTOM on Aug 19, 2004 21:35:55 GMT -5
This is what happens when words get translated into English. HALLEL means PRAISE. Everytime you see PRAISE in the OLD TESTAMENT, you see HALLEL. Are you telling me that LUCIPHERANS are the ONLY ONES who are "HALLEL"? Or were we fed a Mistranslation all this time? How do you know LUCIPHER doesnt mean PRAISEWORTHY since HALLEL means PRAISE? How do you know that the Translators saw a contadtiction in that meaning and wanted to CHANGE IT AROUND? Well I did some research on the word for SHINE in the OLD TESTAMENT. Come to FIND out the WORD for SHINE is 'OWR and not HALLEL. The Burning Bush Shined, Jewelery Shined. Heres a Link to my results. In other words ITS NOT EXCLUSIVE. Here is an ONLINE, Hebrew Biblical Dictionary and its break down of the word "SHINE". www.searchgodsword.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=0215&l=enThe NEW TESTAMENT and OLD TESTAMENT are Different. The OLD TESTAMENT doesnt have a DEVIL or Enemy of GOD. GOD never hated LUCIPHER. LUCIPHER was just there to Tempt MAN. LUCIPHER just had his JOB. A lot of the Stories we read about Lucipher and the War in the heaven and the Revolt can DATE BACK to an ORIGINAL SOURCE or at lease an APPROX DATE but one thing is FACT is that NONE OF IT IS JEWISH in TRADITION. Not in the TALUMD or TANAKH. LUCIPHER is not the ONLY ONE or THING that SHINES. Like i said before. There is a Differece between being Anointed and being The Messiah. Peace GTO, The attribute "to shine" or Halal is exclusive and held by LUCIFERIANS. So again, Jah is a luciferian because jah is an entity that shines. ONLY LUCIFER SHINES. Peace. /me
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 19, 2004 21:38:58 GMT -5
one topic at a time bros. Lets deal wit the praise first now the issue of praise let me ask you something .... dont you think it is a bit ego-tistical on part of one who receives the praise ? Also I must re-iterate anything that is "HALAL" has to do wit lucifer. This is what happens when words get translated into English. HALLEL means PRAISE. Everytime you see PRAISE in the OLD TESTAMENT, you see HALLEL. Are you telling me that LUCIPHERANS are the ONLY ONES who are "HALLEL"? Or were we fed a Mistranslation all this time? How do you know LUCIPHER doesnt mean PRAISEWORTHY since HALLEL means PRAISE? How do you know that the Translators saw a contadtiction in that meaning and wanted to CHANGE IT AROUND? Well I did some research on the word for SHINE in the OLD TESTAMENT. Come to FIND out the WORD for SHINE is 'OWR and not HALLEL. The Burning Bush Shined, Jewelery Shined. Heres a Link to my results. In other words ITS NOT EXCLUSIVE. Here is an ONLINE, Hebrew Biblical Dictionary and its break down of the word "SHINE". www.searchgodsword.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=0215&l=enThe NEW TESTAMENT and OLD TESTAMENT are Different. The OLD TESTAMENT doesnt have a DEVIL or Enemy of GOD. GOD never hated LUCIPHER. LUCIPHER was just there to Tempt MAN. LUCIPHER just had his JOB. A lot of the Stories we read about Lucipher and the War in the heaven and the Revolt can DATE BACK to an ORIGINAL SOURCE or at lease an APPROX DATE but one thing is FACT is that NONE OF IT IS JEWISH in TRADITION. Not in the TALUMD or TANAKH. LUCIPHER is not the ONLY ONE or THING that SHINES. Like i said before. There is a Differece between being Anointed and being The Messiah. /me
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Post by GTOM on Aug 19, 2004 22:11:46 GMT -5
In English, Lucipher shows up a Wopping ONE, ONE, ONE time in the Bible In English Praise shows up a Wopping 259 TIMES... So how can you say that HALLEL only applies to LUCIPHER. 1 Time vs 259 Times. Bro, it means PRAISE. Lucipher is Mistranslated as LightBearer or ShiningOne or IlluminatedOne. It really means PRAISEWORTHY. EveryTIME we see LORD in the Bible, It really means BEL? Does that mean that Its You... and every Time we See Z. BUG is that a play on the world ZBUB / FLIES? one topic at a time bros. Lets deal wit the praise first now the issue of praise let me ask you something .... dont you think it is a bit ego-tistical on part of one who receives the praise ? Also I must re-iterate anything that is "HALAL" has to do wit lucifer.
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Post by GTOM on Aug 19, 2004 23:37:19 GMT -5
NEWS FLASH
Just got from a JEWISH chat ROOM. come to find out, there is no LUCIPHER.
There is No SATAN or LUCIPHER in JUDAISM.
Come to find out the NAMES sound the same for HAYLAL and HALEL but they are not the same.
THis verse in ISAIAH is refering to the King of Babylon.
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Post by ankhenaten2 on Aug 20, 2004 6:21:10 GMT -5
[NOW THIS IS BORING KAH
IN TORAH IT MENTIONS THAT YHWH WHEN HE ARRIVES HE IS SURROUNDED BY THICK DARKNESS
IF I MEMORIZE CORRECTLY THERE IS A PASSAGE IN TORAH WHERE YHWH COMES TO HIS TEMPLE AND A DEEP BLACKNESS SUROUNDS HIM
SO
YHWH IS .............NOT SHINING KAH YOU ARE.....GOING CRAZY
ALSO SHAITAN IN TORAH IS NOT A ENEMY OF GOD OR MAN HE IS UNDER DIRECT ORDER OF YAHWEH
READ JOB WHERE SHAITAN COMES TO YHWH IN THE MIDS OF YHWH HIS SONS
GO TO MY SITE FOR THE FULL STORY
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Post by 1dell on Aug 20, 2004 7:35:24 GMT -5
Do yall see??? here is a perfect example of how Kahanyah will come up with something, he hasn't thoroughly researched, then he gets all excited about it because it challenges conventional thought and is SOUNDS different then puts it out there. Then it's blown to smithereens with objectives and rebuttals then he risks life and limb to patch up them holes with anything he can find trying to suppose his knew "theory" at ALL costs. He is basically living within rebellion trying to find his place of prominance trying to be unique. THAT AINT NECESSARY!!!!! First of all the word in hebrew for Lucifer is NOT Halel!!! It's HyLL or pronounced either Heylel (Hay ee lel) or just Hilel (pronounced Hee lel) yes it has it's roots in Halel but just like any english word just because it shares the root with a word doesn't mean they have the same meaning, the meaning may even be similar but it's a different word altogehter and MUST be recognized as such. Not only that what makes it worst is that Kah NEVER Mentions the word Hylel he is PURPOSELY using Halel to contort the scripture to HIS will. Not to mention Hylel and Halel will have different numerical values according to Gematria and the Heiroglyphic output would be different betwixt hylel and halel thereby differentiating the meanings in and of itself . Why don't people think ish thru first!! Alleluia is from the supposed hebrew word Hallelujah which I can't even find in the bible. But the hebrew word is Halelu IHa. For those who don't knwo Halelu means Let US Praise or let us Laudate and IHa being the abbreviation or nick name of the deity. Here is the principle, HOW a word is used denotes it's meaning. so if I am saying "Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God" Why in the WORLD would you mistake that to mean "Let us SHINE IHaWaH, salvation and glory and honor...." What kind of since does that make when this is a song celebrating the victory of the Most High? If we are sing to commemorate the Most High's victory then why in the hell would we be saying "Let us shine??" whenEVER you see U at the end of a hebrew word it's the pronounce US or OUR, for example Ani is Me, ANu is us or our. Abi is My father. Abenu is OUR father. Does it NOT make moor sense to consture Alleluia as "let US Praise..." He play too much!!! dayum!!! Not to mention Lucifer is NOT satan. Lucifer is a TITLE, Son of the morning, or Subordinate to the Morning star. or Son of the Morning Star. Who is the Morning Star? Nevermind. I hope to God my points were innerstood, if not I'll be back
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 8:39:55 GMT -5
y do you do this to yourself . Nevertheless I shall correct you. Number 1 did you think I did not know it doesnt specifically say HAYLAL ? Obviously you still havent caught unto word akinship in the hebrew script. The prime root of Haylal is halal and thats whyyyyyyyyyy they say Lucifer is the shining one. . Lucifer is the gate from which all *praises* must pass thru.
1dell , 1dell .... 1dellllllllllll augghhh!! when will you learn how to de-cipher mysteries bruh ? kAH still awaits 1dell to give us one mystery from the bible.
Do yall see??? here is a perfect example of how Kahanyah will come up with something, he hasn't thoroughly researched, then he gets all excited about it because it challenges conventional thought and is SOUNDS different then puts it out there. Then it's blown to smithereens with objectives and rebuttals then he risks life and limb to patch up them holes with anything he can find trying to suppose his knew "theory" at ALL costs. He is basically living within rebellion trying to find his place of prominance trying to be unique. THAT AINT NECESSARY!!!!! First of all the word in hebrew for Lucifer is NOT Halel!!! It's HyLL or pronounced either Heylel (Hay ee lel) or just Hilel (pronounced Hee lel) yes it has it's roots in Halel but just like any english word just because it shares the root with a word doesn't mean they have the same meaning, the meaning may even be similar but it's a different word altogehter and MUST be recognized as such. Not only that what makes it worst is that Kah NEVER Mentions the word Hylel he is PURPOSELY using Halel to contort the scripture to HIS will. Not to mention Hylel and Halel will have different numerical values according to Gematria and the Heiroglyphic output would be different betwixt hylel and halel thereby differentiating the meanings in and of itself . Why don't people think ish thru first!! Alleluia is from the supposed hebrew word Hallelujah which I can't even find in the bible. But the hebrew word is Halelu IHa. For those who don't knwo Halelu means Let US Praise or let us Laudate and IHa being the abbreviation or nick name of the deity. Here is the principle, HOW a word is used denotes it's meaning. so if I am saying "Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God" Why in the WORLD would you mistake that to mean "Let us SHINE IHaWaH, salvation and glory and honor...." What kind of since does that make when this is a song celebrating the victory of the Most High? If we are sing to commemorate the Most High's victory then why in the hell would we be saying "Let us shine??" whenEVER you see U at the end of a hebrew word it's the pronounce US or OUR, for example Ani is Me, ANu is us or our. Abi is My father. Abenu is OUR father. Does it NOT make moor sense to consture Alleluia as "let US Praise..." He play too much!!! dayum!!! Not to mention Lucifer is NOT satan. Lucifer is a TITLE, Son of the morning, or Subordinate to the Morning star. or Son of the Morning Star. Who is the Morning Star? Nevermind. I hope to God my points were innerstood, if not I'll be back
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 8:49:08 GMT -5
Greg the darkness that youre reading from the english is actually irafel. Im curious do you know what it means ? Also do you know who the father of Lucifer is and what is he known for ?
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Post by 1dell on Aug 20, 2004 8:50:46 GMT -5
Yeah, you didn't read EVERYTHING I said. so stop playing with me Kah. I swear I don't want to go into the heiroglyphical break down of those 2 words, its too tedious! Do you REALLY think people go around using a word but REALLY mean their root words? YOu have GOT to be kidding me!!! I named my son N'vi because of it's MEANING not because of the ROOT of the word N'vi. STOP PLAYING kah! Stop bullshitting people. I named my son Z'mir NOT because of the ROOT of the word Z'mir but because the MEANING of the word Z'mir Like GTO said one is a Noun and the other is a verb. There is a distinction. I wish to GOD you would take up another language so you can innerstand the rudaments and principles of languages and how you can't just go around altering meanings as you wish so they can conform to your personal interpretations
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 8:58:54 GMT -5
on a real 1dell you need to just chill for a sec and say to yourself maybe just maybe i could be wrong. I mean gezus bros! what you say and know is so common! how do you expect to look behind the veil wit the same old way the common folk look at things ? heres the deal on what I told GTO and I thought I was clear on it. I guess not. The very word [verb] halal means to shine [among other things]. And that is how the entity called Lucifer received his name. Because he was shining - hence birth to the noun ; HEYLEL. The verb is connected to the noun because the verb is the cause for the naming of the noun. And it means any one who "halals" is considered a luciferian archtypal. THERE! ANOTHER MYSTERY I GIVE YOU. 1dell on a real, from all the years I've read your missives dude its the same ol ish. Nothing new, no mystery. Dont you think there is something wrong wit that ? Yeah, you didn't read EVERYTHING I said. so stop playing with me Kah. I swear I don't want to go into the heiroglyphical break down of those 2 words, its too tedious! Do you REALLY think people go around using a word but REALLY mean their root words? YOu have GOT to be kidding me!!! I named my son N'vi because of it's MEANING not because of the ROOT of the word N'vi. STOP PLAYING kah! Stop bullshitting people. I named my son Z'mir NOT because of the ROOT of the word Z'mir but because the MEANING of the word Z'mir Like GTO said one is a Noun and the other is a verb. There is a distinction. I wish to GOD you would take up another language so you can innerstand the rudaments and principles of languages and how you can't just go around altering meanings as you wish so they can conform to your personal interpretations
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