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Post by 1dell on Aug 20, 2004 9:17:11 GMT -5
I am convinced bro, when you have nothing else to talk about you just try to saying the most outlandish stuff out of your mouth to keep the party going. I don't blame for you that I do that too, but I don't use the scripture as my conversation piece in that regard. But as far as not coming out with any mystery, whatever bro. There have been plenty of times where I have but like I said in the post you didn't read. To hell with mystery. Stop trying to so hard to find a mystery everywhere, apply what you know and you will uncover deeper mysteries than you can imagine, this I know. how can I be wrong kah? Here is your logic: Alleluiah is from the hebrew word Hallelujah (english transliteration) and that means that Lucifer is Yah But the scripture you use to support this is Rev 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God You use a freaking song where a multitude in heaven is singing a song to the Most High for crying out loud. lol. So according to your logic if Alleluia means Lucifer is Yah then the song is REALLY "Lucifer is Yah, salvation and glory and honour and power unto IHaWaH our god?" That makes sense to you bro? It don't to me. My problem is that I know hebrew. And the very fact that I see U in AllelUiah means that these people are saying Let us PRAISE, NOT Let us SHINE NOR Our Lucifier is Yah. sigh. Look at the entire sentence bro. What are these people DOING? They are PRAISING God. So then why on earph would it NOT make since that Hallelujah wouldn't mean Let us PRAISE IHa salvation and glory and honor and power belongs to him. That is how you praise God by singing of his attributes. dude you aint gave me a mystery yet. The REAL mystery is how can you come up with this stuff you believe in and yet still associate yourself with the bible. But thats your thing not mine. When you can't grasp the fundamentals you are not worthy of the mysteries. Mystery level is something you graduatate into when you have mastered the lower levels. EVERYBODY has a mystery to sell you. YOu will fall for any OF THEM and you seem to do a good job at falling for ALL of them. But when you have mastered the basics you will have discernment as to which are authentic. Thats why we keep bumping heads. because the stuff you are speaking is just plain bogus and unfounded bro. on a read 1dell you need to just chill for a sec and say to yourself maybe just maybe i could be wrong. I mean gezus bros! what you say and know is so common! how do you expect to look behind the veil wit the same old way the common folk looks at things ? heres the deal on what I told GTO and I thought I was clear on it. I guess not. The very word halal means to shine [among other things]. And that is how the entity called Lucifer received his name. Because he was shining - hence birth to the noun ; HEYLEL. The verb is connected to the noun because the verb is the cause for the naming of the noun. And it means any one who has "halal" is considered a lucifer archtypal. THERE ANOTHER MYSTERY I GIVE YOU. 1dell on a real, from all the years I've read your missives dude its the same ol ish. Nothing new, no mystery. Dont you think there is something wrong wit that ?
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Post by ankhenaten2 on Aug 20, 2004 9:45:17 GMT -5
I am convinced bro, when you have nothing else to talk about you just try to saying the most outlandish stuff out of your mouth to keep the party going. I don't blame for you that I do that too, but I don't use the scripture as my conversation piece in that regard. But as far as not coming out with any mystery, whatever bro. There have been plenty of times where I have but like I said in the post you didn't read. To hell with mystery. Stop trying to so hard to find a mystery everywhere, apply what you know and you will uncover deeper mysteries than you can imagine, this I know. how can I be wrong kah? Here is your logic: Alleluiah is from the hebrew word Hallelujah (english transliteration) and that means that Lucifer is Yah But the scripture you use to support this is Rev 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God You use a freaking song where a multitude in heaven is singing a song to the Most High for crying out loud. lol. So according to your logic if Alleluia means Lucifer is Yah then the song is REALLY "Lucifer is Yah, salvation and glory and honour and power unto IHaWaH our god?" That makes sense to you bro? It don't to me. My problem is that I know hebrew. And the very fact that I see U in AllelUiah means that these people are saying Let us PRAISE, NOT Let us SHINE NOR Our Lucifier is Yah. sigh. Look at the entire sentence bro. What are these people DOING? They are PRAISING God. So then why on earph would it NOT make since that Hallelujah wouldn't mean Let us PRAISE IHa salvation and glory and honor and power belongs to him. That is how you praise God by singing of his attributes. dude you aint gave me a mystery yet. The REAL mystery is how can you come up with this stuff you believe in and yet still associate yourself with the bible. But thats your thing not mine. When you can't grasp the fundamentals you are not worthy of the mysteries. Mystery level is something you graduatate into when you have mastered the lower levels. EVERYBODY has a mystery to sell you. YOu will fall for any OF THEM and you seem to do a good job at falling for ALL of them. But when you have mastered the basics you will have discernment as to which are authentic. Thats why we keep bumping heads. because the stuff you are speaking is just plain bogus and unfounded bro. don't blame kah that he is nuts!!!! lol
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 9:54:07 GMT -5
from now on i will start my post to you like this just to set the record straight that way people will know from what interpretation I come from and what interpretation u come from... 1dell = parables BelZ. = Mysteriesokay 1dell - dude you say I dont read your posts but it seems neither do you read mine. its like this , anything related to the word "HALAL" whether its lauding or praise or light or pompous as long as the word "HALAL" or any of its derivatives are used is exclusively a reference to LUCIFER or Heylel. Thats why alleluiah has to do with the archtypal lucifer; the yah in revelation receiving adulation is lucifer. But hey what can I say, youre about literal parable meanings instead of the higher mysteries veiled behind them Good luck! I am convinced bro, when you have nothing else to talk about you just try to saying the most outlandish stuff out of your mouth to keep the party going. I don't blame for you that I do that too, but I don't use the scripture as my conversation piece in that regard. But as far as not coming out with any mystery, whatever bro. There have been plenty of times where I have but like I said in the post you didn't read. To hell with mystery. Stop trying to so hard to find a mystery everywhere, apply what you know and you will uncover deeper mysteries than you can imagine, this I know. how can I be wrong kah? Here is your logic: Alleluiah is from the hebrew word Hallelujah (english transliteration) and that means that Lucifer is Yah But the scripture you use to support this is Rev 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God You use a freaking song where a multitude in heaven is singing a song to the Most High for crying out loud. lol. So according to your logic if Alleluia means Lucifer is Yah then the song is REALLY "Lucifer is Yah, salvation and glory and honour and power unto IHaWaH our god?" That makes sense to you bro? It don't to me. My problem is that I know hebrew. And the very fact that I see U in AllelUiah means that these people are saying Let us PRAISE, NOT Let us SHINE NOR Our Lucifier is Yah. sigh. Look at the entire sentence bro. What are these people DOING? They are PRAISING God. So then why on earph would it NOT make since that Hallelujah wouldn't mean Let us PRAISE IHa salvation and glory and honor and power belongs to him. That is how you praise God by singing of his attributes. dude you aint gave me a mystery yet. The REAL mystery is how can you come up with this stuff you believe in and yet still associate yourself with the bible. But thats your thing not mine. When you can't grasp the fundamentals you are not worthy of the mysteries. Mystery level is something you graduatate into when you have mastered the lower levels. EVERYBODY has a mystery to sell you. YOu will fall for any OF THEM and you seem to do a good job at falling for ALL of them. But when you have mastered the basics you will have discernment as to which are authentic. Thats why we keep bumping heads. because the stuff you are speaking is just plain bogus and unfounded bro.
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Post by 1dell on Aug 20, 2004 11:57:39 GMT -5
Oh ok, I see what you saying. And no I don't agree with you, I just see what you are saying from now on i will start my post to you like this just to set the record straight that way people will know from what interpretation I come from and what interpretation u come from... 1dell = parables BelZ. = Mysteriesokay 1dell - dude you say I dont read your posts but it seems neither do you read mine. its like this , anything related to the word "HALAL" whether its lauding or praise or light or pompous as long as the word "HALAL" or any of its derivatives are used is exclusively a reference to LUCIFER or Heylel. Thats why alleluiah has to do with the archtypal lucifer; the yah in revelation receiving adulation is lucifer. But hey what can I say, youre about literal parable meanings instead of the higher mysteries veiled behind them Good luck!
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 12:03:48 GMT -5
now you see! this is a kewl and acceptable response. I dont expect every men to understand where I am coming from cause not everyone is on the same level (and please dont think I am saying i am above or below you. Merely pointing out we're not vibing on the same plain). This is how its suppose to be done 1dell!!!! Oh ok, I see what you saying. And no I don't agree with you, I just see what you are saying
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 12:23:53 GMT -5
yes everytime you come across "halal" or praise then you are dealing with a person/entity in the position of a "luciferian" whose receiving the adoration. Haylel is mentioned in the keys of Enoch. I had posted this info up a while back on the board. He's in charge of the holy chayyoth. If you are interested I can find the tablet where enoch speaks of this heavenly host. When you see "Lord" in the bible you are dealing with BAALISM. Yahweh is a baalite aka beni-elohim. And yes Z. BUG is a psonix play on ZEBUB; flies. The "Z" stands for righteousness - the righteous bug (holy righteous ones who fly - astral plaining) Peace In English, Lucipher shows up a Wopping ONE, ONE, ONE time in the Bible In English Praise shows up a Wopping 259 TIMES... So how can you say that HALLEL only applies to LUCIPHER. 1 Time vs 259 Times. Bro, it means PRAISE. Lucipher is Mistranslated as LightBearer or ShiningOne or IlluminatedOne. It really means PRAISEWORTHY. EveryTIME we see LORD in the Bible, It really means BEL? Does that mean that Its You... and every Time we See Z. BUG is that a play on the world ZBUB / FLIES?
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 12:58:07 GMT -5
Here is the tablet of enoch that mentions the yahweh LUCIFER.
Third series of Enoch tablet 20
Hayliel, prince of the holy creatures
20 R. Ishm'el said: The Angel Metatron, Prince of the Divine Presence, said to me: Above them is a great and powerful prince, Hayliel_YHWH is his name, a prince noble and terrible, a prince sovereign and mighty, a prince great and dreaded, a prince from whom all the celestials shrink back, a prince who is able to swallow the whole world at one gulp. Why is his name called Hayliel ? Because he is in charge of the creatures and he whips them with lashes of fire. He extols them when they utter praise and glory, and he makes them hasten to say
Holy, holy, holy, Blessed he the glory of the Lord in his dwelling place.
As I said Lucifer [heylel] receives all adulation and praise. Also notice the suffix "YHWH" added unto his name.
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Post by 1dell on Aug 20, 2004 13:17:27 GMT -5
You a trip Kah, you play too much This scriptures is specificially speakin of Hayliel Not Haylel and when asked WHY is his name Hayliel its NOT because he is shining its Because he is in charge of the creatures and he whips them with lashes of fire. OOHH It makes perfect since now. LOL. You guys see this as an YHWH? it's dosen't appear that way to me. Just like Isaiah and Zecheriah. There names in full are YshaYHWH and ZekherYHWH. That doesn't mean they are YHWHs. I couldn't figure out why you guys saw it like that but now it makes sense. I never saw it like that I alwasy saw that as a suffix to their names just like Ysra'aliym names in the scriptures. Here is the tablet of enoch that mentions the yahweh LUCIFER. Third series of Enoch tablet 20Hayliel, prince of the holy creatures 20 R. Ishm'el said: The Angel Metatron, Prince of the Divine Presence, said to me: Above them is a great and powerful prince, Hayliel_YHWH is his name, a prince noble and terrible, a prince sovereign and mighty, a prince great and dreaded, a prince from whom all the celestials shrink back, a prince who is able to swallow the whole world at one gulp. Why is his name called Hayliel ? Because he is in charge of the creatures and he whips them with lashes of fire. He extols them when they utter praise and glory, and he makes them hasten to say Holy, holy, holy, Blessed he the glory of the Lord in his dwelling place. As I said Lucifer [heylel] receives all adulation and praise. Also notice the suffix "YHWH" added unto his name.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 13:19:24 GMT -5
GTO.... shine [halal] and Ur are two different forms or degrees of illumination/light. With Ur [owr] you have Uriel the angel, you have Ur [chaldees] - the city of lights. They are different degrees bruh. Because the bush illuminated with Ur doesnt take away from Halal. The burning bush has to do with another type of illuminati [Uriel]. Mis-translation ? Dude it doesnt matter if it is or not. The point is the present translation has created a paradigm we live in today in both the seen and unseen atmospheres. And this matrix created by the translation we have [whether accurate or not] has already created the halal/haylal described in their txt. You say Lucifer is not jewish tradition. Bros. come on now, the entire stories of the hebrews is taken [borrowed] from more ancient cultures with their spin or in the politically correct statement - put in proper perspective. You also say there is a difference between messiah and anointed. Prove it. I say anyone who is anointed stands in the position and office of a MESSIAH. For all intents and purpose he is a MESSIAH. Now watch this... Oba 1:21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S. Why is saviours in the plural ? And in case you aint know, saviour is from the hebrew YASHA from which we get YASHUA. It seems there is a promise for many Yeshuas to come. Yeshuas who are anointed [masak/messiah]. Did you know this ? This is what happens when words get translated into English. HALLEL means PRAISE. Everytime you see PRAISE in the OLD TESTAMENT, you see HALLEL. Are you telling me that LUCIPHERANS are the ONLY ONES who are "HALLEL"? Or were we fed a Mistranslation all this time? How do you know LUCIPHER doesnt mean PRAISEWORTHY since HALLEL means PRAISE? How do you know that the Translators saw a contadtiction in that meaning and wanted to CHANGE IT AROUND? Well I did some research on the word for SHINE in the OLD TESTAMENT. Come to FIND out the WORD for SHINE is 'OWR and not HALLEL. The Burning Bush Shined, Jewelery Shined. Heres a Link to my results. In other words ITS NOT EXCLUSIVE. Here is an ONLINE, Hebrew Biblical Dictionary and its break down of the word "SHINE". www.searchgodsword.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=0215&l=enThe NEW TESTAMENT and OLD TESTAMENT are Different. The OLD TESTAMENT doesnt have a DEVIL or Enemy of GOD. GOD never hated LUCIPHER. LUCIPHER was just there to Tempt MAN. LUCIPHER just had his JOB. A lot of the Stories we read about Lucipher and the War in the heaven and the Revolt can DATE BACK to an ORIGINAL SOURCE or at lease an APPROX DATE but one thing is FACT is that NONE OF IT IS JEWISH in TRADITION. Not in the TALUMD or TANAKH. LUCIPHER is not the ONLY ONE or THING that SHINES. Like i said before. There is a Differece between being Anointed and being The Messiah. /me
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 13:23:52 GMT -5
1dell you need to stop this. Youre making yourself look like you have minimal comprehension skills or maybe you just blundering up tryin to blow me out the sea. In either case youre looking silly. Here is why hes called Hayliel, Why is his name called Hayliel ? Because he is in charge of the creatures and he whips them with lashes of fire. He extols them when they utter praise and glory, and he makes them hasten to say ... Next time read the entire fukcin contxt of why he is called the name he carries. GEEZUS! You a trip Kah, you play too much This scriptures is specificially speakin of Hayliel Not Haylel and when asked WHY is his name Hayliel its NOT because he is shining its Because he is in charge of the creatures and he whips them with lashes of fire. OOHH It makes perfect since now. LOL. You guys see this as an YHWH? it's dosen't appear that way to me. Just like Isaiah and Zecheriah. There names in full are YshaYHWH and ZekherYHWH. That doesn't mean they are YHWHs. I couldn't figure out why you guys saw it like that but now it makes sense. I never saw it like that I alwasy saw that as a suffix to their names just like Ysra'aliym names in the scriptures.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 13:29:28 GMT -5
you are tryin so hard bros. for real you r . YES Isaiah, jeremiah, etc.. are all considered yahs. Why ? because they are children of El [sons of God]. Fallen children [gen6.1]. Yah is a baal or lord. And if you know the story - Baal is son of El. Now there will always be a yah on the throne who commands the rest of the yahs. Just as there are many elohs but one who commands them and he is known as Elyown [most High]. Instead of being quick to attack bros. Why dont you just ask questions on things youre not understanding. Don't you think that would the smart thing to do ?
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Post by 1dell on Aug 20, 2004 13:30:05 GMT -5
I can kinda build with you on this: Imma humor you a bit so don't take me too seriously: Lets apply this scripture: Exd 23:21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name [is] in him. Exd 23:22 But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries. Exd 23:23 For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off. Is this Hayliel? Since Hayliel is said to be dread ful and since IHWH's name is IN him is this reference to Hayliel IHWH? Here is the tablet of enoch that mentions the yahweh LUCIFER. Third series of Enoch tablet 20Hayliel, prince of the holy creatures 20 R. Ishm'el said: The Angel Metatron, Prince of the Divine Presence, said to me: Above them is a great and powerful prince, Hayliel_YHWH is his name, a prince noble and terrible, a prince sovereign and mighty, a prince great and dreaded, a prince from whom all the celestials shrink back, a prince who is able to swallow the whole world at one gulp. Why is his name called Hayliel ? Because he is in charge of the creatures and he whips them with lashes of fire. He extols them when they utter praise and glory, and he makes them hasten to say Holy, holy, holy, Blessed he the glory of the Lord in his dwelling place. As I said Lucifer [heylel] receives all adulation and praise. Also notice the suffix "YHWH" added unto his name.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 13:36:44 GMT -5
Ya kina wanna build wit me on this, but youre humoring me. LOL!! yea right! more like I got yo ass on this one you aint neva heard but is some deep ish! MUHAHAHAH! Aight lets build. There are many archtypals in the bible. The one in revelation that I referred to of the YHWH host is Lucifer or Haylel. However, as I said before its a HOST! so there are different yahwehs, some agreeable some disagreeable. Some one kind others another kind. In the verse you cite you show me where there is "HALAL" and i will show you the luciferians. Other wise I'd have to look into the hebrew script and get exactly which attribute baalite youre dealing with here .
I can kinda build with you on this: Imma humor you a bit so don't take me too seriously: Lets apply this scripture: Exd 23:21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name [is] in him. Exd 23:22 But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries. Exd 23:23 For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off. Is this Hayliel? Since Hayliel is said to be dread ful and since IHWH's name is IN him is this reference to Hayliel IHWH?
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 20, 2004 13:41:53 GMT -5
okay I looked at it. the angel is Samu'El I am assuming you know who samu'El is.
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Post by 1dell on Aug 20, 2004 13:49:47 GMT -5
actually nah kah, I am honoring your last appeal to ask questions. So I am trying a new approach. I have spoken to others about the levites being demonic and how the god that actually desired sacrifices was malicious years ago. I am not against the concept of there being GODS in the hebrew pantheon but I am against the multiple Yahweh thing. I am TRYING to find out if there is a missing link between what we both believe. I guess you must have forgetton my missives on the hebrew pantheons and moor than one god thing. But it's cool. The name of the Angel is not given, we are just given his attributes. He don't play lets just say that. He will whoop the Ysra'alites asses if they step out of line. He will guide them thru the passage to Canaan. Now what would really be cool is if the voice changes in scripture. And then HE starts to talk throughout the rest of the scripture until they get to the land and then we hear from IHWH again. Ya kina wanna build wit me on this, but youre humoring me. LOL!! yea right! more like I got yo ass on this one you aint neva heard but is some deep ish! MUHAHAHAH! Aight lets build. There are many archtypals in the bible. The one in revelation that I referred to of the YHWH host is Lucifer or Haylel. However, as I said before its a HOST! so there are different yahwehs, some agreeable some disagreeable. Some one kind others another kind. In the verse you cite you show me where there is "HALAL" and i will show you the luciferians. Other wise I'd have to look into the hebrew script and get exactly which attribute baalite youre dealing with here .
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