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Post by NAR on Jan 20, 2004 22:53:03 GMT -5
Genesis Chapter two verse seven (KJV) states that And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. The Aramaic word used for GROUND in this verse is ADAMAH. As you may NOT know, adamah is the feminine form of ADAM. If Adam is translated as man in verse seven of the KJV, then why not translate ADAMAH as woman? To harmonise verse seven, I will calibrate it to bring it into its proper azimuth. The relative importance of my translation below is that man was fashioned from woman in whom the man (adam) named EVE, the mother of life (gen 3 v 20), Em Khay.
These self-existing beings fashioned man from the rubbish (clay) of woman and inflated into (her) visage the inspiration to live; to (create) man with a living mind, spirit and soul.---calibrated by Neter Nebu Atun Re---
My above calibration of genesis chapter two verse seven gives the impression that man was fashioned with the aid of a woman. The breath as it is translated in the KJV comes from the Aramaic word Nashamah, which is the feminine form of Nasham. As we can see, the breath (I translate as inspiration) is the feminine generative element of life, the mold of life.
Tamunefuset Hu
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Post by NAR on Jan 21, 2004 3:29:28 GMT -5
quest-ion: What do you me when you calibrate a scripture? My Thoughts: The word calibrate means to adjust or correct something by using a standard or Mold. The word CALIBRATE comes from the word Caliber, which in turn comes from the Arabic word QALIB. Qalib means "Mold," as in casting metal. A mold is a matrix for shaping fluids. Like the models that are formed from a particular mold, over time the ancient teachings translated by men need to be re-calibrated, re-fined, re-shaped to resemble the mold and even as a last resort destroyed and then remolded. By calibrating a scripture, I am not adding to or taking from it. I am just refining it to resemble the standard. This is like the relationship between DNA and mRNA, in which the previous is the Mold and the latter is the Model. A good example of what I am saying is the process to which Adam was created in the image and likeness of the Elohim (gen 1 v 27). True Man Genesis Chapter two verse seven (KJV) states that And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. The Aramaic word used for GROUND in this verse is ADAMAH. As you may NOT know, adamah is the feminine form of ADAM. If Adam is translated as man in verse seven of the KJV, then why not translate ADAMAH as woman? To harmonise verse seven, I will calibrate it to bring it into its proper azimuth. The relative importance of my translation below is that man was fashioned from woman in whom the man (adam) named EVE, the mother of life (gen 3 v 20), Em Khay. These self-existing beings fashioned man from the rubbish (clay) of woman and inflated into (her) visage the inspiration to live; to (create) man with a living mind, spirit and soul.---calibrated by Neter Nebu Atun Re--- My above calibration of genesis chapter two verse seven gives the impression that man was fashioned with the aid of a woman. The breath as it is translated in the KJV comes from the Aramaic word Nashamah, which is the feminine form of Nasham. As we can see, the breath (I translate as inspiration) is the feminine generative element of life. Tamunefuset Hu |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jan 21, 2004 9:40:51 GMT -5
very interesting breakdown NAR. Here is something else that may also be of importance. According to same vrs. you quote [Gen 2.7] Adam is in fact created from the aphar [dust] of the ground [adamah]. Now here is the catch... aphar is inter-related to the hebrew word epher (both have the same hebreaic consonant spelling). Epher is a calf. We are getting somewhere here. The calf is the sacred symbol of NEPHILIM. In the story of exodus, the hebrews made an Golden Calf idol as a memorial to the nephilim.
Adam comes from the gene/genesis [aphar] within Adamah that gives rise to the nephilim. This same dormant gene was activated when Elohiym put Adam into sleep. The word used to place Adam under sleep is "NAPHAL" - the root word in NEPHILIM.
What we have here is the same rehashing of the story of the great Goddess [adamah] who gives birth to a giant [adam].
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Post by NAR on Jan 22, 2004 0:18:08 GMT -5
Peace kaH I disagree because the Aramaic word used for CALF in the book of Exodus chapter 32 v 4 is Egel (feminine eglah), which comes from the prime root Agol or Agor, meaning "circle." However, Ephar or Aphar was one of the sons of Midian. The Aramaic word Aphar means Antelope or Gazelle, which happens to be the sacred totem of Adam. This sacred TOTEM can be found in the sacred records of MU, which depicts the creation and the advent of MAN. The molten calf was a form of ancestorial worship; although misinterpreted by the Israelites as ADAM. The totem that would have linked them directly to the bloodline of the True Man (Adam), would have been the Aphar (gazelle) and not the Agol (calf). Nayya Pa Naba Ra (True Man) Aphar (gazelle), advent of Man very interesting breakdown NAR. Here is something else that may also be of importance. According to same vrs. you quote [Gen 2.7] Adam is in fact created from the aphar [dust] of the ground [adamah]. Now here is the catch... aphar is inter-related to the hebrew word epher (both have the same hebreaic consonant spelling). Epher is a calf. We are getting somewhere here. The calf is the sacred symbol of NEPHILIM. In the story of exodus, the hebrews made an Golden Calf idol as a memorial to the nephilim. Adam comes from the gene/genesis [aphar] within Adamah that gives rise to the nephilim. This same dormant gene was activated when Elohiym put Adam into sleep. The word used to place Adam under sleep is "NAPHAL" - the root word in NEPHILIM. What we have here is the same rehashing of the story of the great Goddess [adamah] who gives birth to a giant [adam]. |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jan 22, 2004 5:43:51 GMT -5
NAR read Isaiah 13.12,
Isaiah 13:12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.
This is the qabalistic vrs. used to understand the connection between Aphar and Ephar. The idol calf was made out of Ophir gold.
Peace.
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Post by NAR on Jan 22, 2004 6:34:49 GMT -5
Peace Kah, The interesting thing here is that the Bible does not mention anything about a GOLDEN calf. The word used is MACCEKAH, which means a fusion of metals. So, the so called "golden calf" could have been brass, bronze, nickle, steel, tin and so forth. Recall, that gold is a pure metal. The word for calf is agol and not Aphar, which means "gazelle." As you can see Maccekah is in the feminine. If the bible wanted to say "golden calf", it would have been written as Paz Agol and not as Maccekah Agol. Therefore, the story of the golden calf did not exist! However, the bible does speak of a molten calf(Neh 9 v 18). www.christiananswers.net/bible/deu9.htmlNAR read Isaiah 13.12, Isaiah 13:12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir. This is the qabalistic vrs. used to understand the connection between Aphar and Ephar. The idol calf was made out of Ophir gold. Peace. |
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Post by NAR on Jan 22, 2004 6:46:20 GMT -5
Ophir was a gold producing region, but not the gold itself. Ophir was also a son of Joktan. Peace Kah, The interesting thing here is that the Bible does not mention anything about a GOLDEN calf. The word used is MACCEKAH, which means a fusion of metals. So, the so called "golden calf" could have been brass, nickle, steel, tin and so forth. Recall, that gold is a pure metal. The word for calf is agol and not Aphar, which means "gazelle." As you can see Maccekah is in the feminine. If the bible wanted to say "golden calf", it would have been written as Paz Agol and not as Maccekah Agol. Therefore, the story of the golden calf did not exist! However, the bible does speak of a molten calf(Neh 9 v 18). www.christiananswers.net/bible/deu9.html |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jan 22, 2004 9:32:56 GMT -5
NAR I am surprised you don't know that story. Its common knowledge the calf was made out of gold. Here is the scripture...
Exo 32. 2-4
2 And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.
3 And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.
4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
The gold , the choicest of gold came from Ophir so it was known as the gold of ophir. It is the same land where Adam was made from its dust [aphar]. OPHIR/APHAR/EPHAR are all emblamatic of the material substance the Nephilim which were born of the womb were made of.
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Post by Ralph on Jan 22, 2004 15:43:01 GMT -5
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Post by Ralph on Jan 22, 2004 15:53:15 GMT -5
Peace kaH I disagree because the Aramaic word used for CALF in the book of Exodus chapter 32 v 4 is Egel (feminine eglah), which comes from the prime root Agol or Agor, meaning "circle." However, Ephar or Aphar was one of the sons of Midian. The Aramaic word Aphar means Antelope or Gazelle, which happens to be the sacred totem of Adam. This sacred TOTEM can be found in the sacred records of MU, which depicts the creation and the advent of MAN. The molten calf was a form of ancestorial worship; although misinterpreted by the Israelites as ADAM. The totem that would have linked them directly to the bloodline of the True Man (Adam), would have been the Aphar (gazelle) and not the Agol (calf). Nayya Pa Naba Ra (True Man) Aphar (gazelle), advent of Man "Word is derived from the Hebrew word aphar, which means to cross over or to ford. The language spoken in Chaldea was related to Hebrew or did not differ from Hebrew in the earliest days. Later, the Chaldean language was called Aramaic. Aramaic is still in use. It is so close to Hebrew that some of our prayers, the Kaddish for example, are in Aramaic. The Christian community in Iraq and Lebanon speak Aramaic as well as Arabic. We met some Lebanese Christians in Israel who told us they speak Aramaic and Hebrew and Arabic. Evidently the differences are such that someone speaking one of these languages can easily enough learn the other language as well. In short, Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic speakers are all related. Just imagine a world in which our Arab enemies would acknowledge this and seek to live together with the Israelis instead of seeking to slaughter every Jew on earth." Also: EARTH urth (’adhamah, ‘erets, ‘aphar; ge, oikoumene): In a hilly limestone country like Palestine, the small amount of iron oxide in the rocks tends to be oxidized, and thereby to give a prevailing reddish color to the soil. This is especially the case on relatively barren hills where there is little organic matter present to prevent reddening and give a more blackish tinge. ‘Adhamah (compare ‘adham, "a man," and Adam) is from ‘adham, "to be red," and is used in the senses: "earth" (Ex 20:24), "land" (Ps 105:35), a "land" or country (Isa 14:2), "ground" (Ge 4:11), "the earth" (Ge 7:4). The word most in use is ‘erets, undoubtedly from a most ancient root occurring in many languages, as English "earth," German Erde, Arabic ‘ard. It is used in most of the senses of ‘adhamah, but less as "soil" and more as "the earth" as a part of the universe; frequently with shamayim, "heavens," as in Ge 1:1: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." ‘Aphar and its root word and derivatives are closely paralleled in the Arabic, and refer mainly to "dust" or "dry earth" (compare Arabic ‘afir, "to be of the color of dust"; ‘afar "dust"; ya‘fur, "a gazelle"; Hebrew ‘opher, "a gazelle"). Compare Ge 2:7: "Yahweh God formed man of the dust of the ground"; Job 2:12: ".... sprinkled dust upon their heads"; Ps 104:29: ".... they die, and return to their dust"; Ge 18:27: "dust and ashes." In the Septuagint and New Testament, ge is used in nearly all cases, oikoumene being used a few times for the "habitable earth," as in Lu 21:26 the King James Version. |
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Post by Ralph on Jan 22, 2004 19:44:17 GMT -5
"Word is derived from the Hebrew word aphar, which means to cross over or to ford. The language spoken in Chaldea was related to Hebrew or did not differ from Hebrew in the earliest days. Later, the Chaldean language was called Aramaic. Aramaic is still in use. It is so close to Hebrew that some of our prayers, the Kaddish for example, are in Aramaic. The Christian community in Iraq and Lebanon speak Aramaic as well as Arabic. We met some Lebanese Christians in Israel who told us they speak Aramaic and Hebrew and Arabic. Evidently the differences are such that someone speaking one of these languages can easily enough learn the other language as well. In short, Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic speakers are all related. Just imagine a world in which our Arab enemies would acknowledge this and seek to live together with the Israelis instead of seeking to slaughter every Jew on earth." Also: EARTH urth (’adhamah, ‘erets, ‘aphar; ge, oikoumene): In a hilly limestone country like Palestine, the small amount of iron oxide in the rocks tends to be oxidized, and thereby to give a prevailing reddish color to the soil. This is especially the case on relatively barren hills where there is little organic matter present to prevent reddening and give a more blackish tinge. ‘Adhamah (compare ‘adham, "a man," and Adam) is from ‘adham, "to be red," and is used in the senses: "earth" (Ex 20:24), "land" (Ps 105:35), a "land" or country (Isa 14:2), "ground" (Ge 4:11), "the earth" (Ge 7:4). The word most in use is ‘erets, undoubtedly from a most ancient root occurring in many languages, as English "earth," German Erde, Arabic ‘ard. It is used in most of the senses of ‘adhamah, but less as "soil" and more as "the earth" as a part of the universe; frequently with shamayim, "heavens," as in Ge 1:1: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." ‘Aphar and its root word and derivatives are closely paralleled in the Arabic, and refer mainly to "ust" or "ry earth" (compare Arabic ‘afir, "to be of the color of dust"; ‘afar "ust"; ya‘fur, "a gazelle"; Hebrew ‘opher, "a gazelle". Compare Ge 2:7: "Yahweh God formed man of the dust of the ground"; Job 2:12: ".... sprinkled dust upon their heads"; Ps 104:29: ".... they die, and return to their dust"; Ge 18:27: "ust and ashes." In the Septuagint and New Testament, ge is used in nearly all cases, oikoumene being used a few times for the "habitable earth," as in Lu 21:26 the King James Version. |
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Post by Master-9 on Jan 22, 2004 23:14:59 GMT -5
Just imagine a world in which our Arab enemies would acknowledge this and seek to live together with the Israelis instead of seeking to slaughter every Jew on earth." Just imagine if those fake jews go back to hell, what a great world it would be....long live Saddam |
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Post by NAR on Jan 23, 2004 1:34:34 GMT -5
If Aaron made a "golden" calf then why does it say "molten" calf and not "golden" calf. The Aramaic word used for "molten" is Maccekah. With that in mind, the reader can only assume that there was a golden calf, when in fact there was no calf or bullock made from pure gold. The Aramaic word for "golden" used in this chapter is Zahab, which (figuratively) means gold, because of its yellow color or shiningness. Zahab means "to shimmer." Now, the Aramaic word for "pure gold" is called Paz or Baz.There seems to be some confusion with the words Uphir and Uphaz, in which the latter is connected with the Aramaic word for pure GOLD---->Phaz, Paz. The Jerusalem Talmud states that there were seven types of GOLD. One being from the Gold of Uphaz(Dan 10:5, Jer 10:9). NAR I am surprised you don't know that story. Its common knowledge the calf was made out of gold. Here is the scripture... Exo 32. 2-4 2 And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me. 3 And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron. 4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. The gold , the choicest of gold came from Ophir so it was known as the gold of ophir. It is the same land where Adam was made from its dust [aphar]. OPHIR/APHAR/EPHAR are all emblamatic of the material substance the Nephilim which were born of the womb were made of. |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jan 23, 2004 1:55:15 GMT -5
come on now NAR you fetching for straws bros. The story is clear on that matter. Gold was used to make the molten calf so I am not going to argue that because it would become a waste of time. ** me thinks brother NAR doesn't like to admit he made a mistake  ** And as for the word "MOLTEN", you're partly correct. It is from the hebrew MACCEKAH. But NAR do you know what the word means ? It means to cast an image. And the way that is done is by MELTING DOWN THE GOLD. Where do you think the word MOLD as in to MOLDING a statue comes from ? Ever hear of the term MOLTEN LAVA ? Here is the strongs# on Molten 04541. Also MACCEKAH (molten) has the primary root NACAK, strongs#05258. All that other stuff about PURE gold, brother you know you aint serious. Now we've completely deviated off the topic to debating the *pureness * of that gold. NAR my brother you know better man! Here is a dictionary meaning of the word MOlten... mol·ten (m½l“t…n) v. Archaic. 1. A past participle of melt. --mol·ten adj. 1. Made liquid by heat; melted. 2. Made by melting and casting in a mold. 3. Brilliantly glowing, from or as if from intense heat. Peace. |
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Post by NAR on Jan 23, 2004 5:29:32 GMT -5
Peace kaH, The reader can only assume (at best) that the image of the bullock (agol) was made of GOLD. The book of Exodus does NOT mention anything about a GOLDEN calf (bullock). If it did, it would have said Paz Agol (Gold Calf) or at best Zahab Agol and not Maccekah Agol (Molten Calf). Therefore, linguistically, there is no evidence of a calf being made of Gold in the book of Exodus. The reader can only assume that there was. come on now NAR you fetching for straws bros. The story is clear on that matter. Gold was used to make the molten calf so I am not going to argue that because it would become a waste of time. ** me thinks brother NAR doesn't like to admit he made a mistake ** And as for the word "MOLTEN", you're partly correct. It is from the hebrew MACCEKAH. But NAR do you know what the word means ? It means to cast an image. And the way that is done is by MELTING DOWN THE GOLD. Where do you think the word MOLD as in to MOLDING a statue comes from ? Ever hear of the term MOLTEN LAVA ? Here is the strongs# on Molten 04541. Also MACCEKAH (molten) has the primary root NACAK, strongs#05258. All that other stuff about PURE gold, brother you know you aint serious. Now we've completely deviated off the topic to debating the *pureness * of that gold. NAR my brother you know better man! Here is a dictionary meaning of the word MOlten... mol·ten (m½l“t…n) v. Archaic. 1. A past participle of melt. --mol·ten adj. 1. Made liquid by heat; melted. 2. Made by melting and casting in a mold. 3. Brilliantly glowing, from or as if from intense heat. Peace. |
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