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Post by LadyC on May 5, 2004 18:30:40 GMT -5
they have targeted my daughter's school, with the intention of picketing the school next week during the half hour between when the buses drop off kids and the bell for first class rings. the reason for the picket is because the drama dept produced a play about the death of matthew shepard.
the flier calls the school a whorehouse, the principal the "pied piper from hell", and claims that anyone associated with the school will spend eternity in hell.
the school staff addressed the students over the PA system to ask parents to do nothing in protest for fear that the church will file a lawsuit against the school in response.
this so-called-church is going to only increase the hatred against christianity and the intolerance towards christian students there. i'm actually concerned enough to consider keeping my daughter home from school that day.
any suggestions?
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Post by CoUrTnEy on May 5, 2004 20:24:43 GMT -5
as much as i want to say that you should'nt let those nutbags disrupt your life, your daughter's safety is at stake and WAY more important.. i dont think that it would hurt to keep her home for a day. i would also (if it is age appropriate) explain to her why and that that isn't the way christians should behave. and even perhaps help her decide how to handle it IF there is some sort of backlash on her because of how some other so-called Christians are acting. they have targeted my daughter's school, with the intention of picketing the school next week during the half hour between when the buses drop off kids and the bell for first class rings. the reason for the picket is because the drama dept produced a play about the death of matthew shepard. the flier calls the school a whorehouse, the principal the "pied piper from hell", and claims that anyone associated with the school will spend eternity in hell. the school staff addressed the students over the PA system to ask parents to do nothing in protest for fear that the church will file a lawsuit against the school in response. this so-called-church is going to only increase the hatred against christianity and the intolerance towards christian students there. i'm actually concerned enough to consider keeping my daughter home from school that day. any suggestions? |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on May 5, 2004 20:25:31 GMT -5
oh yeah- who the heck is mathew shepherd?
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Post by LadyC on May 5, 2004 22:20:43 GMT -5
ashlea's 16, a sophomore in high school.... matthew shepard... he's the homosexual who was murdered by two drunk "cowboy" type guys, who had taken him joyriding and then later (in their defense) claimed the boy tried to molest them. matthew shepard was a scrawny little dude. but they felt "threatened" by him, so they beat him to death. God condemns the act of homosexuality, but that doesn't give christians the right or the excuse to persecute them like they did this boy... and like this WBC is doing to the school. personally i think this could easily become a matter of safety. it has already made the 6 pm news on all channels here, and the newspapers are making phone calls to parents. i kinda expect that there will be true christians there protesting these wackos, and it could get nasty. anyway, here's a link to a detailed story about matthew shepard. www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Stonewall/2878/ |
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Post by SatiyaH on May 6, 2004 7:09:34 GMT -5
I have a very dear person in my life, my former teacher, who is gay. He has learned that many of the most staunch, bible totin', fire and brimstone preachin', you're gonna rot in hell speakin' "christians" are actually pedophiles. He learned this the hard way  To this day, he maintains his personal relationship with the creator, but will not step a foot into a church! Not even a church that "welcomes" gays. As far as the condemnation goes--well, the bible says alot of things, but funny how when it points out something that effects one personally, they tend to make excuses to justify themselves. I've met many "whores" and men who indulge in adultery, yet when the topic of homosexuality comes up they want to quote the bible  Another thing to keep in mind--often these people who are so quick to condemn gays, will also find other things to condemn someone for: abortion, race, religion etc. I've had to tell a christian minister "All this crap you talk about Islam and other religions, prove to me outside of "YOUR" BIBLE that you have the monopoly on salvation! Anyhow, I would probably keep my daughter home as well. People have come in the name of Jesus and bombed abortion clinics, there is no telling what some nut in that crowd may be up to. If one poor boy happens to have a little sass in his step, they may make him face the same fate as Mathew Shepard |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on May 6, 2004 8:25:11 GMT -5
that is a sweeping generalization, but if it's true it is very sad.. my opinion would be that most of those types of christians are simply nutjobs, egotists, OR insecure in their own salvation- therefore they overcompensate by acting the way they do.. oh and then you have those that only feel better by putting someone else beneath them... He has learned that many of the most staunch, bible totin', fire and brimstone preachin', you're gonna rot in hell speakin' "christians" are actually pedophiles. He learned this the hard way |
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Post by kAHANyAH on May 6, 2004 8:34:56 GMT -5
You know what I'd say, an inordinate amount of christian priests (of the catholic sect) are paedophiles. There was a study which showed many paedophiles join the clergy because of the easy access to children. that is a sweeping generalization, but if it's true it is very sad.. my opinion would be that most of those types of christians are simply nutjobs, egotists, OR insecure in their own salvation- therefore they overcompensate by acting the way they do.. oh and then you have those that only feel better by putting someone else beneath them... |
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Post by SatiyaH on May 6, 2004 9:00:29 GMT -5
You know what I'd say, an inordinate amount of christian priests (of the catholic sect) are paedophiles. There was a study which showed many paedophiles join the clergy because of the easy access to children. Same with boy scouts and other youth organizations. The man I was speaking about played the piano and sang in his church. He was molested by deacons, a minister, and other male members. It happend during church sponsored functions. |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on May 6, 2004 9:03:39 GMT -5
not that it makes much difference, but out of curiosity.. what denomination were they?? it's sad because you would think your kids would be safe with members of the church and something like that happens. Same with boy scouts and other youth organizations. The man I was speaking about played the piano and sang in his church. He was molested by deacons, a minister, and other male members. It happend during church sponsored functions. |
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Post by kAHANyAH on May 6, 2004 9:18:10 GMT -5
not to pin one religion against another but I'll tell you this you will hardly hear of IMAMS doing this type of stuff to children. not that it makes much difference, but out of curiosity.. what denomination were they?? it's sad because you would think your kids would be safe with members of the church and something like that happens. |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on May 6, 2004 10:13:44 GMT -5
one personal opinion i have about catholics is that i think it is natural for a man to be with a woman.. in other words- catholic priests not being able to marry goes against god's plan for man and woman to be together in marriage.. I am sure in other denominations there is child molestation and the like, but you dont hear about it on such a large scale as we have the catholics.. also they pray to Mary- when it expressly says that there is only ONE way to God- and that is thru Jesus Christ..and it also expressly says not to bow down to statues and pray to them- catholics pray to a statue of Mary.. oh and one last thing- that whole thing with asking a human priest for forgiveness.. it's not up to him - it's up to God.. these things and others have made me question catholicism.. but again i do not pass judgements on them- it's just not for me and what they have done will be between them and God when the time comes. not to pin one religion against another but I'll tell you this you will hardly hear of IMAMS doing this type of stuff to children. |
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Post by kAHANyAH on May 6, 2004 11:36:23 GMT -5
Courtney, the disciples abandoned their wives and children to be like christ. Christ was celibate. one personal opinion i have about catholics is that i think it is natural for a man to be with a woman.. in other words- catholic priests not being able to marry goes against god's plan for man and woman to be together in marriage.. I am sure in other denominations there is child molestation and the like, but you dont hear about it on such a large scale as we have the catholics.. also they pray to Mary- when it expressly says that there is only ONE way to God- and that is thru Jesus Christ..and it also expressly says not to bow down to statues and pray to them- catholics pray to a statue of Mary.. oh and one last thing- that whole thing with asking a human priest for forgiveness.. it's not up to him - it's up to God.. these things and others have made me question catholicism.. but again i do not pass judgements on them- it's just not for me and what they have done will be between them and God when the time comes. |
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Post by LadyC on May 6, 2004 11:38:54 GMT -5
this upcoming protest is all over the news.... all the local stations are covering the story. i have a good working relationship with an editor at a local story. she's asked me for help on certain stories, and i've been known to ask her to put someone on issues that i think should be newsworthy. anyway, she had a reporter call me... but at the time i was still so angry i couldn't think coherently. so i emailed the reporter late last night with the following statement i wanted to get out. here goes...
"The Westboro Baptist Church defies the very essence of Christianity. Yes, God condemns sin... ALL sin. Perhaps "Pastor" Phelps would do well to take the plank out of his own eye and stay away from our campus. While God abhor's sin, He doesn't hate anybody! To the contrary, the reason He hates sin is because it distances us from Him... Another thing, God hates religion. True Christianity is at odds with religion. Christianity is the definition of a personal relationship with Jesus. Religion, on the other hand, is man's way of using God as an excuse to justify their own hatred. This church, and all who are affiliated with it, will stand before God on judgement day, and it won't be a pretty sight. I can imagine that there is little that infuriates God more than religious terrorism, particularly when it is aimed at children. As a Christian, and as a parent of a student of LVA, I support the school's production of The Laramie Project. The murder of Matthew Shepard was a horrendous crime. The WBC claims it "glorifies homosexuality". I believe that the suppression of what actually happened, as the WBC would like to do, would only serve to glorify brutality and murder for sport.
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Post by CoUrTnEy on May 6, 2004 11:39:11 GMT -5
he was also perfect.. man is not  Courtney, the disciples abandoned their wives and children to be like christ. Christ was celibate. |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on May 6, 2004 11:42:56 GMT -5
i simply was stating how i feel about the subject kah.. but i see this may unintentionally lead us back to that discussion about sex for other than procreation and i really dont wanna revisit that.. can't ya just let me have my dang opinion and leave it at that-whether it's right or wrong to you.  inevitably no matter what i say someone isn't going to agree with me. .and im not asking anyone to.. just sayin what's on my mind. this instance in particular im not looking to debate it.. maybe later |
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