Help!!!

[BornAgain9]

Hi, everyone! I have finally found this site! Don't laugh too loud; but I have been looking for y'all forever..... I was told that much, much information about York etal was here on this site..... I tried the unnm.com and nwo.com, but they are psychos. I can't ask any kind of question re: York's case. I don't give a rat's patootie about their doctrine, I just wanted info. I think their doctrine is all bunk and stolen stuff anyhow. Where are the posts concerning the doctrine? I will read them, and maybe some of my questions can be answered that way. I know that you all probably don't discuss him or his folks anymore.... Is this a pro-nuwaubian site? If so, I'm off.....
Thanks for the reply Have a good day.

[kAHANyAH]

this site has many forums, one of which is nuwaubian run by pro-nuwaubians. However the other forums cater to different ideology, doctrine and whathaveyou. We even have a neutral zone [illuzion] where all come to debate whatever doctrine is out there. You may want to ask your questions in that area.

Anyhow happy you found us!

[CoUrTnEy]

this forum "York files" is not pro or against York, but simply getting the truth out (which appears to most nuwaubians to be against York). But you know the saying, "sometimes the truth hurts". Actually this particular forum consists mainly of ex-nuwaubian's recovering from the hell they went thru and telling their stories. welcome to you!! you are free to ask questions and give your opinions!! As a member of the synod I would like to say i hope you enjoy your stay.

[Ralph]

A hearty welcome to you! This is a more muture crowd(sometimes) that can find some of the answers that you seek. Enjoy your stay here. At least on here, you will not get booted if you ask a question...

[BornAgain9]

Thank you so much, Ralph, Courtney, Bel Z. Bug.....
I appreciate your info and I have some questions, and I don't want to get involved in the forum that is pro-nuwabian. I honestly think they have some serious problems. I have a confession to make before you all....
I AM Cake75 that is found on nuworldorder.com. I have been around some of these hooligans and have participated in some rather strange discussions. IN the past, when they were still Black and Htm, I attended some classes in Florida/Georgia other. And I was one of about four or five people who were previously schooled in the Arabic/ancient Arabic/Aramaic languages and religions. I have some awesome help in doctrinal research, et al, yadda yadda. I went to their old classes in HTM and they were kind of nice then. They claimed they were raising up the dead and spellbound. That is good, but then I went to a couple of "sets" within the last year or two, and they were absolutely totally different. I decided to leave then and there, and just forget them. But then this mess in the news shows up, about York's problems. I went to the old unnm.com before it was Yamassee web portal. There were a couple of folks on there who had some of the same concerns that I had, but they were shouted down. Also, Courtney, you had some excellent posts. And yes, you are right, some truths really hurt. I didn't think that the dementia existed in this group; but just like so many others, they have degenerated from a group of positive? Black people proud of their heritage into a weird, silly cult. They can't even see the differences and contradictions in their books written by the Grand supreme Pedophile???/Sheister York. I harbour no hatred for these people; none. I just hate to see them fall into idolatry and Yorkworship, and not even see it. Courtney, did you get banned from their site? Bel. Z.Bug as well? I saw a couple of your comments, and I was wondering where you all went. Ralph, you too? I received some correspondence with a Kentucky sister who wanted to come to this site; but she thinks that her non-nuwaubianness would bar her...... I will tell her, her name is BrownBonnet. You may have seen her postings, and she said that she was got off that unnm site because she didn't agree, neither would she give them her true phone number. I refuse to give my number on unnm. con. Hey, she sent me some forums that she printed out. I read them, and saw that Courtney wrote some interesting yet true things on a forum called, "nuwaubians don't smoke or take drugs/have dogs." They lied there. I know a Nuwaubian who sold mj until he got his behind spanked. So, please let me know if I go on the wrong site. I don't deal with nuwaubians because they get too wild. I observed on the other forums, and didn't take part until nwo. Got blasted off there right quick. I have no desire to hurt or be nasty to those folks but I refuse to quip with them like I had to do with adminwebmistress. Again, I thank you all for replying, and this is my intro/confession letter to you so you have some idea who I present to be.....any questions? I am happy to answer.....

[CoUrTnEy]

Well thank you dear and no i wasn't banned. I just got weary of the madness on their site. They can't seem to see what's right in front of them. They prayed for the truth to come out, and when it did they still refuse to accept it. He's been a Rabbi, a muslim, a christian, an alien, an indian, and now some sort of "ambassador" or something to some african country - yet they dont seem to recognize his desperate attempts to get out of jail. I firmly believe that when you ask God for answers you have to accept what you get - otherwise you are in denial. A lot of people ask for their prayers to be answered, yet what they really mean is "God please grant what I want." God just doesn't work that way. Now the nuwaubians claim (now that York is in jail and is gonna be there a while) that suddenly it's the devil's fault he's there - not that he truly deserves to be there. He has plagerized and it has been proven that he has done so, but most nuwaubians are oblivious. I remain here because i prefer to fellowship and network with people that have their own minds, not brainwashed ones. Invite anyone here that you might think would like to do the same.. we welcome them all.. when you are ready fire away with any questions you have and start new threads if you like. We have members here from all different backgrounds and such with much knowlege in many realms.

[BalkisII]

BornAgain9 said:

.... I AM Cake75 that is found on nuworldorder.com. I have been around some of these hooligans and have participated in some rather strange discussions...

Greetings "Cake75",

I'm glad you made it here. Good spot for the other side of the story.

I've seen your post on NWO, and even copied it and posted it here, in Illuzion. I realize that as much as the NWO say that they are not like UNNM, they will ban you also, if you have something to say about york, or the doctrine. That is not done here, like others already pointed out to you.

I trust you will find they type of info you are looking for.

Peace

[BornAgain9]

Greetings to all,
Thank you Courtney and BalkisII.
I laughed at the response I got from certain ones on nwo. Nwa, is more like it. I prefer mature conversations, and the way I have been welcomed on this site is wonderful, and that tells me that I will make a good experience contribution here.
May I ask, what makes a person become an exnuwaubian? Do the people in the group actually have one on one contact with their grandmaster? Why does he pick such odious and fabulous titles, like Grand Supreme Hierophant, et al, and he has NO proof that he has been elected as such? That's a big title. My masonic family members have scoffed him off. They have said some things regarding his claims and inclusion of masonic rites into his more or less illegitamate free mason group. Now, I am asking you all- do you think that that group is an illegitimate free mason, or are they legit? My folk say that he is NOT a grand supreme hierophant of any order. And they aren't being malicious. they just provide facts for me.
What kinds of things lead a person out of the Nuwaubian Nation? Do they have factions within? I see the evidence and think they have gone down into culthood. Am I correct? I have sadly had 4 members of my extended family involved with the People's temple, but they got out. Some of the things we have discussed sound very similar to some of the evident outward traits of the Nuwaubian nation.
How can a person assume the ethnic/racial Identity of a different group? The Nuwaubians have, strangely, chosen to be a group of indians that no longer exist as a community. I read some stuff Brownbonnet kicked up, and looked into her claims. She is correct. The Yemase/Yamassee don't exist anymore as an Indian group. Can you all tell me something about this? Why do they keep a-changin'?
Thanks for the info, or if you already broke this on down, please direct me to your discussion. All of you--- have a safe, splendid day. I will get back on line in a couple hours.

[brownbonnet]

Salutations!

I am now at work, and just dropped in to say, Hey You. I just got an email from BornAgain. We are both on excite.com. She invited me here. Here I am. I shall return soon.
In your free time do any of you chat?
Yes, it is true---i wont be going onto unnm.com. I think it's cause i gave them a fake phone#. Well, if theyre stupid enough to dial it, then too bad. They are weird anyway. Yes born, they are obviously idolators. But I have to give it to Yorkie---he is a D*** good cult leader!
You can't say he didn't do one heckuva job on those folks. Hee Hee! I see some of you have escaped york's web. Good for you----stay free.
Well, gotta go. Be back tonight. In the "shadow hour". Born, go look at those pix on "death of nuwaubu" thread.....one of them looks quite familiar, no? You know what I mean, gal. Hee Hee!
*hey yall*
Gotta go, for real. Hot dang and a fried apple, dis heah gal goss to get on the mule!! (My job, of course. I am not auth'd to go on these 'non-work' sites..... i am employed as a confidence woman. Hah Hah Hah. ;D ;D ;D thanks born! this site is cool.... gonna get to know Allayall!