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Post by AllahJihad on May 3, 2004 20:30:36 GMT -5
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Master-9
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You can't stop NUWAUBU!!!!
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Post by Master-9 on May 3, 2004 23:09:56 GMT -5
I see this is your opinion of FreeMasonry:
Immortal Birth of Allah Rise of the Five Percenters
Chapter 1
Masonry vs. Freemasonry: which one is original ?
......" The correct definition of a mason is one who builds or works with stone or brick. These men were members of a guild of skilled itinerant professionals during the middles ages. There are two types of Masonry as seen by the Fraternity: #1 Speculative Masonry #2 Operative Masonry -Speculative Masonry is more so theoretical, not established by demonstration. A prime Example of this theoretical concept is the usage of the tools of a stone mason to create allusions of their usage for self improvement. -Operative Masonry is the actual application of the the tools of a stone mason to perform physical work...................... ......................................................................... .......... We exist. The universe Exist. We are conscious of both our own existence and our surroundings. Consciousness is a degree of intelligence. That same intelligence which makes us aware of our own existence and the existence of the world in which we live forces us to admit the prior existence of some creative force which caused both the universe and ourselves................................ ....................................................................... .......33* was given to them to clean themselve up in their savage state of existence. These degrees deals with the 5th. science known as Geometry, Geometry and working tools was used for them to build themselves a living quarters to dwell in and not continue to live in the caves that they were confined or bound in. This science of masonry was given to them to free them from their savage way of life. To begin to bring a civil character to the white man. Thus, the name " Freemasonry ". This is why no Black man or woman should not be freemasons, for this was not given nor meant for them. Black people are the originaters of Mathematics and science, we shared this with the white man inorde for him to clean themselves up...............................................................................
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Post by AllahJihad on May 4, 2004 6:54:27 GMT -5
Not a opinoin, its a fact ! You got a problem with it then you prove it wrong ! Come to think about it, nothing you can say about masonry I want to hear about when I have book by your weak homosexual leader explaining how masons are devils and etc. and the next thing you know, he go and pay for his degrees and claim to be a shriner. Contradictive. The same man who wrote a book that I read call: " who is Noble Drew Ali ? " and slandered the man all in the book and now claim to be a moor.
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Post by observer on May 7, 2004 0:06:21 GMT -5
Allah Jihad-
Interesting you should mention that book. I read it not too long ago, maybe you can shed light on a couple questions for me.
Where did York slander Noble Drew Ali in that book? I remember he compared a passage from the Circle 7 Koran to a passage from the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ- I found that pretty interesting, but I wouldn't call that slander. He also wrote that Ali's reason for leaving New Jersey and relocating to Chicago was that Wallace Farad showed up in Jersey and began teaching traditional Islam to Black people. I wouldn't call that slander either. It seemed to me, that York was claiming Ali as a sort of predecessor of himself. Elijah Muhammad did the same thing.
And I've found it really difficult to find any record of the Moorish Science Temple of America's activities in New Jersey from 1913 other than in their own publications. The earliest records I've found of the MSTofA have been the first editions of the Moorish Guide published in 1928 in Chicago. Maybe someone on this board can help here.
On a different note, I read a post on another board by someone claiming to be you (Allah Jihad), claiming to have attempted to burn down the Original Tents of Kedar bookstore in Bushwick with a group of 5%ers. Is that true? If it is, would you mind elaborating on this story.
I'm not Nuwaubian by the way and I don't have any beef with you (or with anyone else). Your post just made me curious.
Peace.
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Post by shamgod777 on May 8, 2004 19:39:09 GMT -5
Peace- Dr. York did Slander Prophet Drew Ali---He said that "Noble drew Ali was UNABLE to Teach Islam in its Pristine Purity".--Dr york is saying her that that type of Islam that he was teaching was good enough for the Asiatics her in America..--You tell me as to what other Organization is going to produce over 100,000 members in a few years. The Islam tha Prophet Drew Ali taught was what he called that Old time Religion. So gave York the right to say he couldn't teach it.
--Who was Noble drew Ali-- Dr york calls him Sharif Abdul Ali---There is Nowhere in the history of the MSa of A. where Drew Ali calls himself Sharif Abdul Ali, this was BS.
Doc York said He used the name Moor-because of the North African history of Blacks. Drew Ali never said this--Dr york put words in that mans mouth.
There are many other stuff that York said to Contradict Noble Drew Ali and SAY WE WERE SUDANESE and not MOORS.
And for homeboy that said he couldn't find anything about the Moorish Scince temple in NewJersey in 1913 is because it used to be called the CANANITE TEMPLE.
Peace
P.S. My Grand Father is a member of the M.S.T. of A--Still Living.
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Post by masterofnintharch on May 8, 2004 23:42:47 GMT -5
"no Black man or woman should not be freemasons,"
hahaha...I'd have to agree..except that women cannot and should not be masons. Oh, I'm sorry..did u not mean to say that? Was that a double negative or a freudian slip? Oh boy...u gotta be kidding.
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Post by DenhamEL on May 9, 2004 7:50:58 GMT -5
Islamism and Peace GOD!
Teach Brotherman! All you said was right and exact!
The Olde Canaanite Temple in 1913AD to 1919AD! That is beautiful to know your Grandfather is still living and is still keeping the divine istructions of our Holy and Divine Prophet Drew ALI!
Bro. Denham-El, Divine Teacher
MSTA/MDNM
embers in a few years. The Islam tha Prophet Drew Ali taught was what he called that Old time Religion. So gave York the right to say he couldn't teach it.
--Who was Noble drew Ali-- Dr york calls him Sharif Abdul Ali---There is Nowhere in the history of the MSa of A. where Drew Ali calls himself Sharif Abdul Ali, this was BS.
Doc York said He used the name Moor-because of the North African history of Blacks. Drew Ali never said this--Dr york put words in that mans mouth.
There are many other stuff that York said to Contradict Noble Drew Ali and SAY WE WERE SUDANESE and not MOORS.
And for homeboy that said he couldn't find anything about the Moorish Scince temple in NewJersey in 1913 is because it used to be called the CANANITE TEMPLE.
Peace
P.S. My Grand Father is a member of the M.S.T. of A--Still Living. [/quote]
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