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Post by chephren on Mar 17, 2004 18:11:26 GMT -5
So much Nuwaubian spiel about there different schools. Let's take a look back to Ancient KEMET (Egypt) famous and world's first College and it's composition.
It was in the Ancient city of ON in (KEMET) where the COLLEGE of RA was established. It was not a school as we know it. From all appearances the ANCIENTS frowned on "education" not taught by other than imeediate family. The strengths and weaknesses of a family lay in their abilities to discover and learn from the world for themselves. It (College of RA) was larger than than the later famous one of Alexandria which was the recipient of the materials from (College of RA) . the students having transferred it here during the reign of Ptolemy II. The Greeks Solon, Thales, and Plato were said to have visited the College of RA; Plato was said to have studied there and Manetho. the priest of Sebennytus, wrote a history of KEMET in Greek for Ptolemy II having collected his data from there. The temple fell to ruins as the ages passed and blocks ofmit were carried away bit by bit.
True GODS possess the "World-Body" which was the sum total of the material universe by which they could evaluate all things. To this the people (ancients) strove as one AKKADIAN passage says that "the mind of the GOD , like the center of the heavens , is remote; Knowledge of it is very difficult; people cannot know it." The people soon benefitted as "the generations have become wise by the power of him who has propped apart the two world-halves even though they are so vast. He has pushed away the dome of the sky to make it high and wide: he has set the sun on its double journey and spread out the Earth."
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Post by NAR on Mar 19, 2004 11:45:46 GMT -5
Nefer liyya antuk/t chepren... Gods do not posses the "world body" of knowledge as you said. But, this world body of knowledge, the trunk of christ, is beheld. "Beauty is in the Eye of the beholder." The Egiptian Ra in Mayan discourse is Na, which means "to know." Recall that in the book called "What is Nuwaubu," the Master teacher instructs the nubian man and woman that the first step toward Nuwaubu is Right knowledge and that he/she must seek TO KNOW. Na (to know) is the prime root of the word Nuwaubu--->Na Wa Bu. KNOW = 11+14+15+23 = 63 = 6+3 = 9 Yourselves are (people of one) fire in the the kosmos. Yet the powers all together are secret above. ---Matthew chapter 5 verse 14--- calibrated by NAR, fire of the world body, the trunk of christ. |
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Post by NAR on Mar 19, 2004 12:00:09 GMT -5
The sages have taught me that knowledge(na) is infinite (la) and that infinity, the incomprehensible is spirit(ra). Hence, La, Ra and Na inscribes the word LEARN, which basically means "to gain comprehension," "to teach," "to memorise." Long, Long ago in the void of time and space everywhere the Great Spirit was. ---Walam Olum of the Lenni Lenabe--- The Elements of Mathematics and Arithmetic By Pa Naba Ra, The original man Nefer liyya antuk/t chepren... Gods do not posses the "world body" of knowledge as you said. But, this world body of knowledge, the trunk of christ, is beheld. "Beauty is in the Eye of the beholder." The Egiptian Ra in Mayan discourse is Na, which means "to know." Recall that in the book called "What is Nuwaubu," the Master teacher instructs the nubian man and woman that the first step toward Nuwaubu is Right knowledge and that he/she must seek TO KNOW. Na (to know) is the prime root of the word Nuwaubu. KNOW = 11+14+15+23 = 63 = 6+3 = 9 Yourselves are (people of one) fire in the the kosmos. Yet the powers all together are secret above. ---Matthew chapter 5 verse 14--- calibrated by NAR, fire of the world body, the trunk of christ. |
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Post by chephren on Mar 19, 2004 14:59:41 GMT -5
The ANCIENTS (Kemet-ians) Egyptians never made any pretenses about whom we have come to call GODS as being actual PERSONS! And, they knew who was good and who was bad. They (GODS) controlled nature and protected man until (like today) their evil counterparts caused havoc and man was caught between. Nature is pure entropy. Man is very foolish to think that Egyptians were childish, thinking (like today) that higher beings were in control. When you begin studying the fragility of nature and organisms and the planets and stars, you soon come to the dire conclusion it would all fall into a heap instantly if there were not someone to control the disorder. Of the GOD "HAPI" who kept control of the 'Celestial Nile' it was stated that "if thou were overcome in heaven the GODS would fall upon their faces and man would perish," again alluding to the magnetic boundaries. The people (ancients) on the whole were well aware of the phenomenons of nature, and that which was caused by the GODS, as for instance an AKKADIAN letter refers to an eclipse of the moon and then the talks about the GODS with no equation between the two, nor the moon being a god.
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Post by NAR on Mar 19, 2004 15:13:40 GMT -5
Peace Chepren,
If nature is in transformation (entropy), then how can one come to the "conclusion" about the natural world?
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Post by chephren on Mar 19, 2004 15:41:28 GMT -5
Peace Chepren, If nature is in transformation (entropy), then how can one come to the "conclusion" about the natural world? Hotep Atun-Re, The ANCIENTS called this great power of Nature just that "the POWER" ! But if said to a GOD as we will see from my perspective they would have turned around with their LOTUS eyes and said in earnest, "I AM THE FORCE" for the ANCIENTS did not believe in fate as they were "THE POWER" that is the culmination of the forces of nature converged to make the whole, one , power--MAN, or in this case as we know them the GODS but purely natural beings! They (The GODS) felt ALL were personally responsible for their "own" fortunes in life, and this is what these debates were about as well. The ANCIENTS knew that EARTH (nature) was/is a living organism, GAIA and all the universe as well, which we are finding today to be TRUE as it seems to teem with life. It was stated , "but if heat of the sun is similar to the vital heat of the bodies of living creatures , then the sun itself must be alive. So also must the other stars which are born in that heavenly fire which we call the ether or sky." The ANCIENTS argued that because of man's falling from a higher form WE COULD NOT PERCEIVE our universe as we once did. "Zoser used to criticize Imhotep because while he himself held that we perceive through our senses is false, Imhotep held that only some of our sense-perceptions were false but others true." It is a major topic to find those who had changed the least since the fall of man from the ARCHTYPE (GOD) to the now dominant PRIMAL type! And in this confusion everyone has their version of what the "DIVINE CHILD" would look like and which was an integral part of the so-called RAPTURE! So it is easy to conclude that Nature is always in transformation! |
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Post by NAR on Mar 21, 2004 16:25:40 GMT -5
Good for you Chephren,
I agree but not totally. Yes it is easy to conclude that nature is in entropy, but if nature is in transformation (En + Trope), then where is the evidence? One can not reason about his/her surroundings that are fleeting as with the natural world. “The power” behind nature is the Great Power, super-nature.
The Anishinabe, the good beings (and of course there were the Great Good Beings, the Chinshinabe) who described the mind with the term NOODIN, which is also the word that describes being windy. This was the way that the mind was over-stood by them. The mind is blown around by the force of right-knowledge that acts upon it from the outside. But as long as the people remain forgetful, they will not be able to ground and stitch together that right knowledge into memory (tapestry of world history).
NAR
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Post by chephren on Mar 21, 2004 17:26:27 GMT -5
Good for you Chephren, I agree but not totally. Yes it is easy to conclude that nature is in entropy, but if nature is in transformation (En + Trope), then where is the evidence? One can not reason about his/her surroundings that are fleeting as with the natural world. “The power” behind nature is the Great Power, super-nature. The Anishinabe, the good beings (and of course there were the Great Good Beings, the Chinshinabe) who described the mind with the term NOODIN, which is also the word that describes being windy. This was the way that the mind was over-stood by them. The mind is blown around by the force of right-knowledge that acts upon it from the outside. But as long as the people remain forgetful, they will not be able to ground and stitch together that right knowledge into memory (tapestry of world history). NAR The viewpoint you responded to was not a solicitation for "full" approval simply a perception. You asked a question I responded my brother in peace. We need not have mutual accord we're transferring perspectives. For instance I seek further relevance/clarity on the statement, "The mind is blown around by the force of right knowledge that acts upon it from the outside." |
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Post by NAR on Mar 23, 2004 10:39:25 GMT -5
Good for you chepren, The word “perspective” simply means to gaze, to look upon, to see (refer to the Popol Vuh and its creation of the first humans, the watchers). The word for mind in Anishinabe discourse is NOODIN, which may be transposed into the Mayan word NA'ATEL and the Egiptian word NAATER (neter). The root of the Mayan word Na'atel is NA, which means "science (to know)" and as an extension "right knowledge." According to Zecharia Sitchin’s book entitled “Wars of Gods and Men,” the Egiptian word ntr or ntrw means Watchers. The Hebrews picked the concept up and called it NATSAR (strongs 5431). Have you ever had that feeling that someone is watching? And then you look and to see that, that person was looking at you. This is the force of the mind acting on another, which is felt from the outside. New agers call it telethapy. The birth of all new ideas comes from an outside source (the radiant ultrasoul). It is said that right knowledge marks one like a mark on a birch bark scroll. The Elements of Mathematics and Arithmetic (Temari) Element Wind (Nafoo) Inscribed by Right Knowledge |
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Post by chephren on Mar 23, 2004 13:28:44 GMT -5
Hotep Atun-Re & ALL,
From the Pyramid Texts:
"A chariot king, is a person's body:The soul is the driver, the senses his horses, Undistracted by his fine horses a driver who is skilled rides happily, if they are trained."
A better description of losing the senses was never written."
The following is just as profound (Pyramid Texts):
"The withdrawal of the senses is no different from death:their total withdrawal fell even GODS."
Indeed, it was because of their undoing that people are in the state today, Duty, honor, morality, learning, were becoming harder tp perform. The Codes of Life which NEED NEVER have been written, now were learned by rote, not by the heart, words come too easy and the person falls to his/her OWN INCOMPETENCE!
The ANCIENT texts are a virtual register of the fact men and GODS struggle to keep their senses in tack for only then is INTUITION capable of speaking true to them. Laws, codes, were not needed and the ANCIENTS feared other factions (like York) would subdue the weakened people with their own diabolical reasonings.
Isis stated:
"I made virtue and vice to be distinguished by INSTINCT."
How quickly this has been destroyed and why man/woman is no longer "master of his senses." Once disturbed, the master regulating endocrine system knows only necrobiosis for these organs we rely most on to guide us, Now, we have a GOD to do this for us, (how pathetic) which the ANCIENTS sought to fight! We have always been under the rule of megolomaniacs in religion, medicine , and the sciences!
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Post by NAR on Mar 23, 2004 20:55:42 GMT -5
Right Knowledge is external
Truth is internal
However, the truth does not always make sense
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