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Post by SatiyaH on Mar 10, 2004 14:41:37 GMT -5
The nuwaubian who came in here and shuffled posts around caused me to lose the main York Trial thread---it's all good because it's easy to start a new one.
Here's the lates as per an email I just recieved.
As the media reported, York is scheduled to be sentenced on March 26th at 9am at the United States Courthouse in Macon, GA. I don't have the exact date yet but York will come back to state court sometime in the next week or two after the federal sentencing for his sentence in state court. He can withdraw his guilty plea at that time if he wants to. If he does they (state court) intend to try him and Kathy Johnson together (simultaineously) no later than May. Kathy Johnson's appeal to the Georgia Supreme Court was denied yesterday. Her first appeal to the Georgia Court of Appeals was denied months ago.
The seizure of the property continues on track.
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Mar 10, 2004 14:56:06 GMT -5
so he pleaded guilty to the state charges too?? and are there or have there been any indications that he wishes to withdraw that plea??i may have asked this before.. but when does he get to appeal the federal charges he was found guilty on? The nuwaubian who came in here and shuffled posts around caused me to lose the main York Trial thread---it's all good because it's easy to start a new one. Here's the lates as per an email I just recieved. As the media reported, York is scheduled to be sentenced on March 26th at 9am at the United States Courthouse in Macon, GA. I don't have the exact date yet but York will come back to state court sometime in the next week or two after the federal sentencing for his sentence in state court. He can withdraw his guilty plea at that time if he wants to. If he does they (state court) intend to try him and Kathy Johnson together (simultaineously) no later than May. Kathy Johnson's appeal to the Georgia Supreme Court was denied yesterday. Her first appeal to the Georgia Court of Appeals was denied months ago. The seizure of the property continues on track. |
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Post by SatiyaH on Mar 10, 2004 15:21:26 GMT -5
He pleaded guilty to both State and Federal Charges. He would have served his time in Federal prison for all charges. He withdrew his Federal plea, and was later found guilty of all but one count. He still has a chance to withdraw his plea on the state charges and go to trial. He faces over 200 counts in State court--and he only needs to be convicted of just a couple counts to get 20 to 30 years. It will be up to the judge to decide if that time will be consecutive or concurrent. From what I've gathered, they are in the process of preparing the appeal, however I think it will have to be filed after his sentencing date. Then it will go thru a process that can take years.
In a criminal case, the defendant may appeal a guilty verdict, but the government may not appeal if a defendant is found not guilty. Either side in a criminal case may appeal with respect to the sentence that is imposed after a guilty verdict.
The court of appeals makes its decision based on the record of the case established by the trial court or agency. It does not receive additional evidence or hear witnesses. The court of appeals also may review the factual findings of the trial court or agency, but typically may only overturn a decision on factual grounds if the findings were "clearly erroneous."
Appeals are decided by panels of three judges working together. The appellant presents legal arguments to the panel, in writing, in a document called a "brief." In the brief, the appellant tries to persuade the judges that the trial court made an error, and that its decision should be reversed. On the other hand, the party defending against the appeal, known as the "appellee," tries in its brief to show why the trial court decision was correct, or why any error made by the trial court was not significant enough to affect the outcome of the case.
Although some cases are decided on the basis of written briefs alone, many cases are selected for an "oral argument" before the court. Oral argument in the court of appeals is a structured discussion between the appellate lawyers and the panel of judges focusing on the legal principles in dispute. Each side is given a short time - usually about 15 minutes - to present arguments to the court.
The court of appeals decision usually will be the final word in the case, unless it sends the case back to the trial court for additional proceedings, or the parties ask the U.S. Supreme Court to review the case. In some cases the decision may be reviewed en banc, that is, by a larger group of judges (usually all) of the court of appeals for the circuit.
A litigant who loses in a federal court of appeals, or in the highest court of a state, may file a petition for a "writ of certiorari," which is a document asking the Supreme Court to review the case. The Supreme Court, however, does not have to grant review. The Court typically will agree to hear a case only when it involves an unusually important legal principle, or when two or more federal appellate courts have interpreted a law differently. There are also a small number of special circumstances in which the Supreme Court is required by law to hear an appeal. When the Supreme Court hears a case, the parties are required to file written briefs and the Court may hear oral argument.
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Mar 10, 2004 15:37:46 GMT -5
wow satiyah.. thanks, that was very informative  He pleaded guilty to both State and Federal Charges. He would have served his time in Federal prison for all charges. He withdrew his Federal plea, and was later found guilty of all but one count. He still has a chance to withdraw his plea on the state charges and go to trial. He faces over 200 counts in State court--and he only needs to be convicted of just a couple counts to get 20 to 30 years. It will be up to the judge to decide if that time will be consecutive or concurrent. From what I've gathered, they are in the process of preparing the appeal, however I think it will have to be filed after his sentencing date. Then it will go thru a process that can take years. In a criminal case, the defendant may appeal a guilty verdict, but the government may not appeal if a defendant is found not guilty. Either side in a criminal case may appeal with respect to the sentence that is imposed after a guilty verdict. The court of appeals makes its decision based on the record of the case established by the trial court or agency. It does not receive additional evidence or hear witnesses. The court of appeals also may review the factual findings of the trial court or agency, but typically may only overturn a decision on factual grounds if the findings were "clearly erroneous." Appeals are decided by panels of three judges working together. The appellant presents legal arguments to the panel, in writing, in a document called a "brief." In the brief, the appellant tries to persuade the judges that the trial court made an error, and that its decision should be reversed. On the other hand, the party defending against the appeal, known as the "appellee," tries in its brief to show why the trial court decision was correct, or why any error made by the trial court was not significant enough to affect the outcome of the case. Although some cases are decided on the basis of written briefs alone, many cases are selected for an "oral argument" before the court. Oral argument in the court of appeals is a structured discussion between the appellate lawyers and the panel of judges focusing on the legal principles in dispute. Each side is given a short time - usually about 15 minutes - to present arguments to the court. The court of appeals decision usually will be the final word in the case, unless it sends the case back to the trial court for additional proceedings, or the parties ask the U.S. Supreme Court to review the case. In some cases the decision may be reviewed en banc, that is, by a larger group of judges (usually all) of the court of appeals for the circuit. A litigant who loses in a federal court of appeals, or in the highest court of a state, may file a petition for a "writ of certiorari," which is a document asking the Supreme Court to review the case. The Supreme Court, however, does not have to grant review. The Court typically will agree to hear a case only when it involves an unusually important legal principle, or when two or more federal appellate courts have interpreted a law differently. There are also a small number of special circumstances in which the Supreme Court is required by law to hear an appeal. When the Supreme Court hears a case, the parties are required to file written briefs and the Court may hear oral argument. |
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Post by chephren on Mar 10, 2004 16:46:43 GMT -5
the land of "NUWAUBU" will be seized terminating the so called land (The DEATH of Nuwaubu)!
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Post by Master-9 on Mar 10, 2004 18:43:07 GMT -5
the land of "NUWAUBU" will be seized terminating the so called land (The DEATH of Nuwaubu)! The Land is straight |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Mar 10, 2004 19:51:49 GMT -5
what they ought to do is sell the land and then divide the proceeds up amoung the innocent childrent that were violated by York. same thing for the rest of his assets. |
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Post by chephren on Mar 10, 2004 19:59:08 GMT -5
Are you sure or just posturing ? |
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Post by DaSOULution on Mar 10, 2004 20:22:41 GMT -5
The fall of Nuwaubu continues... I was at the grocery store tonight and ran into the brother who put me on to Nuwaubu and man he looked so out of place, working at a local vegetarian supermarket mingling amongst Caucasions, when it seemed just like yesterday he was so "sovereign". York done screwed yawws mind up 20 fold. Repent, because York can't save you. York cant save York  it was funny because usually when I shake his hand, its like a "brotherly" pound, theres still hope for this brother...hes very intelligent. I failed to bring up the York situation with him...ON PURPOSE. It must be hard on him at this moment.  |
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Post by chephren on Mar 10, 2004 21:07:57 GMT -5
The fall of Nuwaubu continues... I was at the grocery store tonight and ran into the brother who put me on to Nuwaubu and man he looked so out of place, working at a local vegetarian supermarket mingling amongst Caucasions, when it seemed just like yesterday he was so "sovereign". York done screwed yawws mind up 20 fold. Repent, because York can't save you. York cant save York It's hard for all these Nuwaubians...I recently rec'd a phone call from a Nuwaubian (very popular) so "staunch" in the doctrine I will respect them and they will remain nameless! This particular Nuwaubian who I personally like/respect basically was seeking the proverbial 'Free Will Offering' (known as cash substantial amount) without any kind of collateral offering...When mentioning the court verdict this individual stated "it was Bullshit" it was funny because usually when I shake his hand, its like a "brotherly" pound, theres still hope for this brother...hes very intelligent. I failed to bring up the York situation with him...ON PURPOSE. It must be hard on him at this moment. I know exactly what you speak...Several weeks ago I had a "staunch of the staunchest Nuwaubians" phone me recently and when York was free and "speaking from the mount" this Nuwaubian was the cockiest of cocky! Well basically I could hear the desperation in this person's voice and hear/vibrate the uncertainty in this individuals direction who I like a great deal personally! Basically this individual was looking for "A Free Will offering" (not chump change) with zero offer of collateral! I kindly finessed the situation and did not disrespect there disposition even though it was abundantly clear this person was hurting a great deal alongst the lines of "DAMN I KNEW I JUST NEVER ACCEPTED THE REALITY"! It was a phenomenon for me to see this new found humility and exacerbation and trust me on this this individual is a staunch Nuwaubian very "low on dough" (a 1st) and options I got off the phone and said, WOW!!! |
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Post by Master-9 on Mar 10, 2004 21:36:17 GMT -5
The fall of Nuwaubu continues... I was at the grocery store tonight and ran into the brother who put me on to Nuwaubu and man he looked so out of place, working at a local vegetarian supermarket mingling amongst Caucasions, when it seemed just like yesterday he was so "sovereign". York done screwed yawws mind up 20 fold. Repent, because York can't save you. York cant save York it was funny because usually when I shake his hand, its like a "brotherly" pound, theres still hope for this brother...hes very intelligent. I failed to bring up the York situation with him...ON PURPOSE. It must be hard on him at this moment. Weak niggas |
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Post by Master-9 on Mar 10, 2004 21:38:16 GMT -5
Are you sure or just posturing ? No, I'm fighting this war head on... Maku will be free, one way or another  |
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Post by DaSOULution on Mar 10, 2004 21:42:16 GMT -5
weak minded niggas  |
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Post by GTOM on Mar 10, 2004 21:56:40 GMT -5
M-9 your not doing anything. The numbers are getting lower and lower as the days go on.
M-9 is not like your average Nuwaubian. I remember seeing this brother at the MLK NeSeFe Store all the time. M-9 wont subject himself to being Broke. M-9 wont live in Nuwaubu Gardens ( Can't blame him ). M-9 did help build the pryamids. Who didnt? See M-9 loves the information and who can blame him. I just started buying Nuwaubian Books again and WHOA. Those books are good. Other then the parts where the Author Ego Trips, the books have lots of Good Information.
You know how it is when a Parent Fails and has Bad Kids and the Kids Get arrested. The Parent will sware up and down that "MY BABY AINT NEVER HURT NO BODY. HE GOT STRIGHT A's" Thats how M-9 is when it comes to MAKU.
When the SHIT hits the FAN. M-9 wont BE THERE. M-9 gotta MAKE THAT MONEY!!!! Aint that right REV. "KA-TAH"
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Mar 10, 2004 22:31:44 GMT -5
but gto- didnt you say on your website that york just plagerized other people's work? M-9 your not doing anything. The numbers are getting lower and lower as the days go on. M-9 is not like your average Nuwaubian. I remember seeing this brother at the MLK NeSeFe Store all the time. M-9 wont subject himself to being Broke. M-9 wont live in Nuwaubu Gardens ( Can't blame him ). M-9 did help build the pryamids. Who didnt? See M-9 loves the information and who can blame him. I just started buying Nuwaubian Books again and WHOA. Those books are good. Other then the parts where the Author Ego Trips, the books have lots of Good Information. You know how it is when a Parent Fails and has Bad Kids and the Kids Get arrested. The Parent will sware up and down that "MY BABY AINT NEVER HURT NO BODY. HE GOT STRIGHT A's" Thats how M-9 is when it comes to MAKU. When the SHIT hits the FAN. M-9 wont BE THERE. M-9 gotta MAKE THAT MONEY!!!! Aint that right REV. "KA-TAH" |
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