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Post by Ralph on Feb 6, 2004 14:24:28 GMT -5
 Oh boy--so "the Freemasons" are protecting him from plagiarism, but not from molestation charges?  The charges were of molestation and racketeering. There wasn't an issue made about plagiarism because it simply had not been brought up for that case. And...by the way, for those who are interested...ah hell, let me not play around here--this is for you Ralph  According to some ethics codes and criminal laws, a complaint of plagiarism may be initiated or proven by any person. The person originating the complaint need not be the owner of the plagiarized content, nor need there be any active or passive communication from a content owner directing that any investigation or discipline process be initiated in response to the plagiarism. Plagiarism should not be confused with copyright infringement, which is using another writer's work with or without full acknowledgement in a way that violates the exclusive legal rights granted to the author by copyright law. I stated incorrectly when I said Robert Temple is shown in that photograph, it is Robert Bauval, and that photograph is copywritten! He did NOT give permission, expressed or implied for use of that photo, the other photos and charts. Nobody wants to go at this half cocked, so just take a note now that "we told you so" when this all comes out in the wash  Hey Satiyah, I have no problem being corrected by someone who keeps it honest. YOu have my respect if I have erred! |
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Post by NAR on Feb 6, 2004 15:45:15 GMT -5
What is wrong with promoting the arts and sciences in your own kem-munity? dspace.dial.pipex.com/ritson/quest/orion/orion.htm That EXACT photo is found on page 323 of the Holy Tablets, however I don't see anything about Robert Bauval in the Holy Tablets  oh, wait--this one too:  and  is this the SAME diagram used on page 316 of the holy tablets?:  During the Eighties Bauval was working on a big construction project in Saudi Arabia in his other guise as an engineer. In the evenings he was in the habit of taking his family and friends out into the desert for a barbecue. Late one night when the family had all gone to sleep Bauval and a friend sat talking around the fire. His friend, also an engineer but an amateur astronomer, pointed out the constellation of Orion rising over the dunes. He mentioned in passing that the stars seem to be imperfectly aligned, not forming a straight diagonal, but with one star offset slightly. To the engineer's eye this was merely annoying, but as he explained Bauval felt a jolt through his spine -- the star's alignment almost matched the Pyramids at Giza! |
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Post by Ralph on Feb 6, 2004 15:46:40 GMT -5
Oh boy--so "the Freemasons" are protecting him from plagiarism, but not from molestation charges? The charges were of molestation and racketeering. There wasn't an issue made about plagiarism because it simply had not been brought up for that case. And...by the way, for those who are interested...ah hell, let me not play around here--this is for you Ralph According to some ethics codes and criminal laws, a complaint of plagiarism may be initiated or proven by any person. The person originating the complaint need not be the owner of the plagiarized content, nor need there be any active or passive communication from a content owner directing that any investigation or discipline process be initiated in response to the plagiarism. Plagiarism should not be confused with copyright infringement, which is using another writer's work with or without full acknowledgement in a way that violates the exclusive legal rights granted to the author by copyright law. Satiyah, thought I would look up and see the differences! What is the difference between copyright infringement and plagiarism? Generally speaking, a copyright holder has the exclusive rights to reproduce, display, transmit, perform, and modify a work as well as the right to publicly perform a sound recording by digital transmission. There are exemptions in the copyright act that provide for certain exceptions to those exclusive rights, many in favor of limited nonprofit educational purposes. If none of the exemptions apply, the proposed use of someone else's copyrighted work will probably be copyright infringement. If proper attribution is required and is missing, the proposed use will also be plagiarism. For example, quoting extensively from a book without the copyright holder's permission would likely be copyright infringement. Extensive quoting without permission and without attribution would be infringement and plagiarism. Similarly, extensive quoting without permission but with attribution would not be plagiarism but would still be copyright infringement. Conversely, extensive copying with permission but without attribution would be plagiarism but not copyright infringement. |
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Post by NAR on Feb 6, 2004 15:51:30 GMT -5
What is a free will offering? Satiyah, thought I would look up and see the differences! What is the difference between copyright infringement and plagiarism? Generally speaking, a copyright holder has the exclusive rights to reproduce, display, transmit, perform, and modify a work as well as the right to publicly perform a sound recording by digital transmission. There are exemptions in the copyright act that provide for certain exceptions to those exclusive rights, many in favor of limited nonprofit educational purposes. If none of the exemptions apply, the proposed use of someone else's copyrighted work will probably be copyright infringement. If proper attribution is required and is missing, the proposed use will also be plagiarism. For example, quoting extensively from a book without the copyright holder's permission would likely be copyright infringement. Extensive quoting without permission and without attribution would be infringement and plagiarism. Similarly, extensive quoting without permission but with attribution would not be plagiarism but would still be copyright infringement. Conversely, extensive copying with permission but without attribution would be plagiarism but not copyright infringement. |
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Post by Ralph on Feb 6, 2004 15:54:43 GMT -5
There will be no lawsuits...these are Freemasons you are pointing to such as Mr. Robert... there will be no lawsuits -- mark my words. No attention will brought to the books.....it is why no attention was brought to them during the case.....theyve focused on the man -- never the books THERE IS REASON... Damn, I let this one slip by. If he plagiarized he is out there byhimself. Freemasons do not take kindly to those who do unmasonic things; but then again, York is not a freemason.... |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Feb 6, 2004 15:55:19 GMT -5
same arguement.. different thread.. you are taking it out of context.. not a single thing wrong with the promotions of those things. the problem comes in when you dont credit the source..geeeeeeeeeeeez What is wrong with promoting the arts and sciences in your own kem-munity? |
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Post by NAR on Feb 7, 2004 1:00:31 GMT -5
Ane al Hamdu Al Ilah, Eloh (I am Grateful to the source). same arguement.. different thread.. you are taking it out of context.. not a single thing wrong with the promotions of those things. the problem comes in when you dont credit the source..geeeeeeeeeeeez |
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Post by ~Black Lotus~ on Feb 7, 2004 2:06:59 GMT -5
HTP ANUK (KM SSN)Black Lotus. There are numerous examples of plagiarism when you just compare to the books that he got them from. Obviously if there are claims of "plagiarism" then someone..! Read a book that he got his info from. And not in the sense of "re-search" but more like cut & paste. Conflict of the Gods, The Maguraj book with the info on Tachyons, the diagrams, bado rite, etc..., Urim & Thummim = The Book of Runes by Ralph Blum. The book Ancient Egypt and the Pharaohs?  "Don't believe me check it out". I've been able to read since I was 3 yrs. old I think I know the difference between plagiarism & referencing or even "paraphrasing". Truth is Truth either you accept or ya don't. Still doesn't change the facts. M HTP PTH WN NFR Black Lotus So you go from information to photos and charts -- OMFG.. thats hilarious. Because he used photos and charts thats PLAGUARISM? You guys are really reaching. What do you spend your days looking through the books to see if anything was plagurized so you can run to some authors and say "lookie lookie -- this man is plaguarizing your stuff"...nevermind these are the same people that plaguarized YOUR history.... YOU GUYS ARE HILARIOUS!!!!  |
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Post by NAR on Feb 7, 2004 3:47:57 GMT -5
I concur with 4evanuworld's comments. Our story (now called his-story) has been makeshifted and put into a form of secular ownership (copyright). HTP ANUK (KM SSN)Black Lotus. There are numerous examples of plagiarism when you just compare to the books that he got them from. Obviously if there are claims of "plagiarism" then someone..! Read a book that he got his info from. And not in the sense of "re-search" but more like cut & paste. Conflict of the Gods, The Maguraj book with the info on Tachyons, the diagrams, bado rite, etc..., Urim & Thummim = The Book of Runes by Ralph Blum. The book Ancient Egypt and the Pharaohs? "Don't believe me check it out". I've been able to read since I was 3 yrs. old I think I know the difference between plagiarism & referencing or even "paraphrasing". Truth is Truth either you accept or ya don't. Still doesn't change the facts. M HTP PTH WN NFR Black Lotus |
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Post by BalkisII on Feb 7, 2004 7:23:14 GMT -5
I'm sure you don't ask questions that you can't answer, so please inform us what is free will offering??? What is a free will offering? |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Feb 7, 2004 10:42:38 GMT -5
Im sure you are- but that isn't in question here.. i see you continue to dance around in circles with no real purpose or meaning.. you know the truth.. and we all know the truth.. you can keep kidding yourself if you want to. Ane al Hamdu Al Ilah, Eloh (I am Grateful to the source). |
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Post by NAR on Feb 7, 2004 14:28:57 GMT -5
Greetings BalkisII, A freewill offering is a spontaneous gift (ezra 3:5). The Aramaic word for this spontaneous gift is Nadabah. I'm sure you don't ask questions that you can't answer, so please inform us what is free will offering??? |
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Post by ~Black Lotus~ on Feb 7, 2004 16:07:20 GMT -5
This is called circular reasoning, keep coming around to the same thing despite what was already said. I'm out. HTP Black Lotus I concur with 4evanuworld's comments. Our story (now called his-story) has been makeshifted and put into a form of secular ownership (copyright). |
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Post by Ralph on Feb 7, 2004 16:17:17 GMT -5
I concur with 4evanuworld's comments. Our story (now called his-story) has been makeshifted and put into a form of secular ownership (copyright). Peace Atun-Re, Point me to a reference to substantiate your claim. |
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Post by Ralph on Feb 7, 2004 16:34:12 GMT -5
I concur with 4evanuworld's comments. Our story (now called his-story) has been makeshifted and put into a form of secular ownership (copyright). Peace Atun-Re, I am a little confused at what angle you are trying to say that York has not stolen anybody's work. In a previous post you stated: "The quote "Don't believe me, check it out" alone grants Dr. York immunity from any kind of plagiarism." And now you are stating: "Our story (now called his-story) has been makeshifted and put into a form of secular ownership (copyright)." Can you clear this up for me? |
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