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Post by CoUrTnEy on Feb 5, 2004 16:19:34 GMT -5
no one said the act of using photos and charts is plagarism.. that's taken out of context.. but using charts and photos or the written word authored by others and passing it off as your own.. now THAT is plagarism.. if you can't see that then you have issues. So you go from information to photos and charts -- OMFG.. thats hilarious. Because he used photos and charts thats PLAGUARISM? You guys are really reaching. What do you spend your days looking through the books to see if anything was plagurized so you can run to some authors and say "lookie lookie -- this man is plaguarizing your stuff"...nevermind these are the same people that plaguarized YOUR history.... YOU GUYS ARE HILARIOUS!!!!  |
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Post by Ralph on Feb 5, 2004 16:24:00 GMT -5
That is pure bullshit, if you would profess to say that his books havent come into the hands of those who do not 'know' him...pure BS and speculation. I have old articles clipped at home from various sources who have read the tablets and asked who this man was. BS and speculation. There will be no lawsuits...these are Freemasons you are pointing to such as Mr. Robert... there will be no lawsuits -- mark my words. No attention will brought to the books.....it is why no attention was brought to them during the case.....theyve focused on the man -- never the books THERE IS REASON... Courtney took the words right out of my mouth! Are York's books sold in Barnes and Nobles? Are they sold in Border's Books? Trust me, if they were that lawsuit would beenin the makings. York's books are basically only in the black community... |
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Post by SatiyaH on Feb 5, 2004 16:24:05 GMT -5
There will be no lawsuits...these are Freemasons ... there will be no lawsuits -- mark my words. No attention will brought to the books.....it is why no attention was brought to them during the case.....theyve focused on the man -- never the books THERE IS REASON...  Oh boy--so "the Freemasons" are protecting him from plagiarism, but not from molestation charges?  The charges were of molestation and racketeering. There wasn't an issue made about plagiarism because it simply had not been brought up for that case. And...by the way, for those who are interested...ah hell, let me not play around here--this is for you Ralph  According to some ethics codes and criminal laws, a complaint of plagiarism may be initiated or proven by any person. The person originating the complaint need not be the owner of the plagiarized content, nor need there be any active or passive communication from a content owner directing that any investigation or discipline process be initiated in response to the plagiarism. Plagiarism should not be confused with copyright infringement, which is using another writer's work with or without full acknowledgement in a way that violates the exclusive legal rights granted to the author by copyright law. I stated incorrectly when I said Robert Temple is shown in that photograph, it is Robert Bauval, and that photograph is copywritten! He did NOT give permission, expressed or implied for use of that photo, the other photos and charts. Nobody wants to go at this half cocked, so just take a note now that "we told you so" when this all comes out in the wash  |
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Post by Ralph on Feb 5, 2004 16:28:28 GMT -5
no one said the act of using photos and charts is plagarism.. that's taken out of context.. but using charts and photos or the written word authored by others and passing it off as your own.. now THAT is plagarism.. if you can't see that then you have issues. Courtney, He also has to give credit where he go the pics from also. Some research society you belong to Evan... sja.ucdavis.edu/avoid.htmWHAT IS PLAGIARISM? Plagiarism means using another's work without giving credit. You must put others' words in quotation marks and cite your source(s) and must give citations when using others' ideas, even if those ideas are paraphrased in your own words. "Work" includes "original ideas, strategies, and research,"1 art, graphics, computer programs, music, and other creative expression. The work may consist of writing, charts, pictures, graphs, diagrams, data, websites, or other communication or recording media, and may include "sentences, phrases, and innovative terminology,"2 formatting, or other representations. The term "source" includes published works (books, magazines, newspapers, websites, plays, movies, photos, paintings, and textbooks) and unpublished sources (class lectures or notes, handouts, speeches, other students' papers, or material from a research service). Using words, ideas, computer code, or any work by someone else without giving proper credit is plagiarism. Any time you use information from a source, you must cite it. Why should you be concerned about PLAGIARISM? If you plagiarize, you are cheating yourself. You don't learn to write out your thoughts in your own words, and you don't get specific feedback geared to your individual needs and skills. Plagiarizing a paper is like sending a friend to practice tennis for you - you'll never score an ace yourself! Plagiarism is dishonest because it misrepresents the work of another as your own. Plagiarism violates the UCD Code of Academic Conduct and can result in Suspension or Dismissal. MORE REASONS |
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Post by SatiyaH on Feb 5, 2004 16:38:07 GMT -5
dspace.dial.pipex.com/ritson/quest/orion/orion.htm That EXACT photo is found on page 323 of the Holy Tablets, however I don't see anything about Robert Bauval in the Holy Tablets  oh, wait--this one too:  and  is this the SAME diagram used on page 316 of the holy tablets?:  During the Eighties Bauval was working on a big construction project in Saudi Arabia in his other guise as an engineer. In the evenings he was in the habit of taking his family and friends out into the desert for a barbecue. Late one night when the family had all gone to sleep Bauval and a friend sat talking around the fire. His friend, also an engineer but an amateur astronomer, pointed out the constellation of Orion rising over the dunes. He mentioned in passing that the stars seem to be imperfectly aligned, not forming a straight diagonal, but with one star offset slightly. To the engineer's eye this was merely annoying, but as he explained Bauval felt a jolt through his spine -- the star's alignment almost matched the Pyramids at Giza!
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Post by SatiyaH on Feb 5, 2004 16:41:18 GMT -5
Now, go to page 316 of the Holy Tablets and explain to my why it doesn't say "Alignments of shafts to stars c. 2600BC as discovered by A. Badawy and V. Trimble in 1964"!
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Feb 5, 2004 16:44:18 GMT -5
OK .. *whew* .. lemme break it down for you since the last few times i told you this you still missed the VERY clear point.. i have NEVER nor WILL I ever tell YOU or anyone else what to do or who to worship... did i say .. you shouldnt do XYZ?? no i did not.. did i say you are not a good person??no i did not.. i didnt address you personally at all.. i dont know you from the man in the moon.. i am here, as we are all, putting in our own views.. take it or leave it.. we are debating an issue.. and you seem to be taking it very personally.. wake up.. the world doesn't revolve around you- ok?? No one on this site has told you you dont have a right to do this or that.. you are creating all that up in your own mind.. we didnt go to "your site" and approach you there.. YOU came here.. you came here posting and do you really think people wouldn't see it and respond?? Get real. If it's so rediculous then why involve yourself in it.. you are able to leave just the way you came.. no one's holding you hostage and forcing anything on you.. you are reading and posting of your own free will.. so if this isnt clear maybe we have someone here that speaks sign language or something and can translate for you. Worship?  Ego of wannabees..... what do care who worships who or what? what is that YOUR business??? Has someone exalted you to the position for you to dictate who does what... EGOS.EGOS.EGOS.... ;D ;D ;D Damn we came all the way down to Georgia, minding our business -- doing our thing..... I dont use drugs, I dont steal, I give to all kinds of charities -- donate my time to those who cant afford my services, not on welfare, own my own home.... -- but my own say Im not allowed to believe what I believe, I havent earned the right to be SOVERIEGN in my thoughts and views...... HILARIOUS... you guys are worse than the so-called zionists...worse than the NWO, Damn..sad thing it is... |
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Post by Zandor on Feb 5, 2004 17:23:35 GMT -5
york's scroll "urim & thummim" was taken from "the book of runes" by ralph blum www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0312097581/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-7130075-6354232#reader-linkSo you go from information to photos and charts -- OMFG.. thats hilarious. Because he used photos and charts thats PLAGUARISM? You guys are really reaching. What do you spend your days looking through the books to see if anything was plagurized so you can run to some authors and say "lookie lookie -- this man is plaguarizing your stuff"...nevermind these are the same people that plaguarized YOUR history.... YOU GUYS ARE HILARIOUS!!!! |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Feb 5, 2004 18:21:21 GMT -5
Yes sistah courtney. I peeped a paraphrasing of a paper [53] from the Urantia book in MZY's holy tablet - without accreditation . When I discovered this, I had planned on contacting the copyright owners on MZY's copyright infringement but decided it wasn't worth my effort (Aint like Urantia foundation puttin money in my pocket  ). hey Kah.. didnt you post on another thread something that was plagarized?? i Know i saw that posting somewhere in here... I also recall seeing a posting from people that lived on the land and knew first hand of women being told to copy certain works and change a word or two.. |
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Post by KnaxemDead on Feb 5, 2004 18:53:08 GMT -5
4evanuworld, What happen to writing the authors of those books requesting premission to use any parts in his books? Let's not overlook that, that within itself is a crime.
In addition, York not only infringed upon copyright laws and plagarized information, bewitching his flock that these beings channeled information through him. But the information itself is all wrong! This is not the proper forum for me to elaborate; However, I will give brief examples. In discussion about the Orion Star constellation aligning with the Great Pyramid in 10,500 BC.
1. If the supreme beings came down from Orion star constellation, surely they would have known that Orion's belt (Nebula) was not three stars, but consist of 16 and would have duplicated such on Giza Plateau(Rostau). For it to have been 'divine' knowledge meaning, having come down (nazala) from above (samawati) to earth ('ard) and given by a superier civilization, all but knew it was 16 stars not three. This would have been COMMON KNOWLEDGE amongst them.
2. What's not shown in either Robert Bauval / Graham Hancock's and York's plagarized books, is for Orion to align perfectly with three of the Giza pyramids, you would have to flip it reverse it upside down to make it work. That's stretching the truth to make it fit. Sure there is a connection with Asaru/Osiris and constellation Orion (Sahu), which btw Sahu is two words of two neters Sia Hu, if you knew the egyptian mysteries as I do, then you would humble yourself and ask me. Yet Graham Hancock on BBC Program, admitted it was merely SYMBOLIC, that he does not say pyramids were built in 10,500 BC but 2500B.C.E. You don't have the facts you have more symbolism, which you don't understand. So stop acting like you know, and trying to figure it out, or that it's in York's plagarized scrolls or fake ancient orders. What I got you won't get find transmitted in a book!
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Post by kAHANyAH on Feb 5, 2004 18:55:17 GMT -5
<--- oh yeaahhh, i completely forgot about that too!!! Alot of hotwater here. Boy ohhh boy. This may come back to haunt MZY . 4evanuworld, What happen to writing the authors of those books requesting premission to use any parts in his books? Let's not overlook that, that within itself is a crime. In addition, York not only infringed upon copyright laws and plagarized information, bewitching his flock that these beings channeled information through him. But the information itself is all wrong! This is not the proper forum for me to elaborate; However, I will give brief examples. In discussion about the Orion Star constellation aligning with the Great Pyramid in 10,500 BC. 1. If the supreme beings came down from Orion star constellation, surely they would have known that Orion's belt (Nebula) was not three stars, but consist of 16 and would have duplicated such on Giza Plateau(Rostau). For it to have been 'divine' knowledge meaning, having come down (nazala) from above (samawati) to earth ('ard) and given by a superier civilization, all but knew it was 16 stars not three. This would have been COMMON KNOWLEDGE amongst them. 2. What's not shown in either Robert Bauval / Graham Hancock's and York's plagarized books, is for Orion to align perfectly with three of the Giza pyramids, you would have to flip it reverse it upside down to make it work. That's stretching the truth to make it fit. Sure there is a connection with Asaru/Osiris and constellation Orion (Sahu), which btw Sahu is two words of two neters Sia Hu, if you knew the egyptian mysteries as I do, then you would humble yourself and ask me. Yet Graham Hancock on BBC Program, admitted it was merely SYMBOLIC, that he does not say pyramids were built in 10,500 BC but 2500B.C.E. You don't have the facts you have more symbolism, which you don't understand. So stop acting like you know, and trying to figure it out, or that it's in York's plagarized scrolls or fake ancient orders. What I got you won't get find transmitted in a book! |
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Post by chephren on Feb 5, 2004 19:03:13 GMT -5
KEEP IT HOT!!! In my studies I found out where York got his so-called revelation that, "Green is the Original Skin color of the Ancients" from his "Melanite Children" scroll. He took a paragraph from a book called "The Greatest Story never Told" verbatim...This aforementioned book dated York's so-called revelation by 5 years!!!
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Post by kAHANyAH on Feb 5, 2004 19:18:29 GMT -5
Daaammmmmmmm KEEP IT HOT!!! In my studies I found out where York got his so-called revelation that, "Green is the Original Skin color of the Ancients" from his "Melanite Children" scroll. He took a paragraph from a book called "The Greatest Story never Told" verbatim...This aforementioned book dated York's so-called revelation by 5 years!!! |
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Post by 1dell on Feb 5, 2004 19:23:41 GMT -5
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Post by kAHANyAH on Feb 5, 2004 19:32:24 GMT -5
i forgot my IE 6.0 browser aint compatible with the chat room
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