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Post by SatiyaH on Jan 29, 2004 10:10:21 GMT -5
The media quoted on of the victims in York's case, a male, who spoke of a pornographic cartoon. He stated the image of a devil character having sex with females was "burned" into his mind.
I mentioned on this site previously that I worked in not only a mental institution, but also at a private facility for convicted sex offenders. I learned there that many of them had obsessions with pornography.
On the web, you can look up various convicted serial killers, pedophiles, rapists, child murderers etc. and you can see the connection that pornography played in their crimes.
"I have lived in prison a long time now and I've met a lot of men who were motivated to violence just like me. And without exception, every one of them was deeply involved in pornography, without question, deeply influenced and consumed by an addictions to pornography."---Ted Bundy in an interview with Dr. James Dobson hours prior to his execution for murder.
"I am a homosexual pedophile convicted of murder, and pornography was a determining factor in my downfall." - Gary Bishop, convicted of murdering five boys between the ages of 5 and 13.
Jeffery Dahmer, a cannibalistic, homosexual murderer was heavily addicted to pornography. His defense attorney openly discussed this as the root cause of his behavior on the Larry King Live show.
A 10-year-old Santa Clara, California boy was arrested for a series of sexual assaults on his playmates who range in age from 4 to 10.... Police said the boy was emotionless while describing the assaults and said he learned about sodomy form pornographic magazines.
---Associated Press, September 14, 1989
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Post by ELTRUTH on Jan 30, 2004 10:49:44 GMT -5
check this link: www.protectkids.com/effects/harms.htm
its about How Pornography Harms Childrenthese are just some excerpts... ...Among the child molesters incited, the study reported that 53 percent of them deliberately used the stimuli of pornography as they prepared to offend. ...Pornography's Relationship to Child Molestation In a study of convicted child molesters, 77 percent of those who molested boys and 87 percent of those who molested girls admitted to the habitual use of pornography in the commission of their crimes.iii Besides stimulating the perpetrator, pornography facilitates child molestation in several ways. For example, pedophiles use pornographic photos to demonstrate to their victims what they want them to do. They also use them to arouse a child or to lower a child's inhibitions and communicate to the unsuspecting child that a particular sexual activity is okay: "This person is enjoying it; so will you." .... ...When male subjects were exposed to as little as six weeks' worth of standard hard-core pornography, they: developed an increased sexual callousness toward women began to trivialize rape as a criminal offense or no longer considered it a crime at all developed distorted perceptions about sexuality developed an appetite for more deviant, bizarre, or violent types of pornography (normal sex no longer seemed to do the job) devalued the importance of monogamy and lacked confidence in marriage as either a viable or lasting institution viewed nonmonogamous relationships as normal and natural behaviorxi Exposure to Pornography Interferes with a Child's Development and Identity |
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Post by Rowe on Jan 30, 2004 23:07:18 GMT -5
The problem, Satiyah, is that at an early age European boys, and those boys under the influence of European-American culture, are taught to associate the woman's body with sex for the purposes of recreation. This is why American men, their mentalities, and their incomes are able to be exploited in this manner. This is also how they are capable of describing something as spiritually sacred as lovemaking as "laying the pipe," etc. This type of thinking is also transpired through religious doctrine, specifically Christianity and Islam, where men are the centerpiece of the religion. In Genesis (written in the Hebrew bible), men are instructed to 'dominate' the earth and all that is in it. They are also told that 'God' is in the image of a 'man.' This lays the foundation for how Christian men will relate to Christian women and the environment which is usually destructive, exploitative, controlling, and obsessive. The reason is because they are not taught to share the earth with other living beings; they are taught to 'dominate' them and to take on an authoritative position in their relationships with others.
Therefore, the creation of "pornography" is no more than a manifestation of this cultural programming. It is essentially a cultural pathological disease, which ultimately emanates from a people who desparately need to believe that women are inferior and should be treated as such. What African American men need to do is to RESEARCH, then closely examine how their ancestors interacted with African women prior to their cultural and mental colonization, prior to white enslavers showing you how to sexually abuse, misunderstand, rape, and resent African women.
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Post by Master-9 on Jan 31, 2004 11:32:12 GMT -5
The problem, Satiyah, is that at an early age European boys, and those boys under the influence of European-American culture, are taught to associate the woman's body with sex for the purposes of recreation. This is why American men, their mentalities, and their incomes are able to be exploited in this manner. This is also how they are capable of describing something as spiritually sacred as lovemaking as "laying the pipe," etc. This type of thinking is also transpired through religious doctrine, specifically Christianity and Islam, where men are the centerpiece of the religion. In Genesis (written in the Hebrew bible), men are instructed to 'dominate' the earth and all that is in it. They are also told that 'God' is in the image of a 'man.' This lays the foundation for how Christian men will relate to Christian women and the environment which is usually destructive, exploitative, controlling, and obsessive. The reason is because they are not taught to share the earth with other living beings; they are taught to 'dominate' them and to take on an authoritative position in their relationships with others. Therefore, the creation of "pornography" is no more than a manifestation of this cultural programming. It is essentially a cultural pathological disease, which ultimately emanates from a people who desparately need to believe that women are inferior and should be treated as such. What African American men need to do is to RESEARCH, then closely examine how their ancestors interacted with African women prior to their cultural and mental colonization, prior to white enslavers showing you how to sexually abuse, misunderstand, rape, and resent African women. Which African culture? |
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Post by Rowe on Feb 1, 2004 13:52:42 GMT -5
My response describes the maladies in European American culture and its acccompanying male-centered Westernized religions. I have not mentioned anything about an African culture.
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Post by SatiyaH on Feb 1, 2004 18:42:27 GMT -5
The problem, Satiyah, is that at an early age European boys, and those boys under the influence of European-American culture, are taught to associate the woman's body with sex for the purposes of recreation. This is why American men, their mentalities, and their incomes are able to be exploited in this manner. This is also how they are capable of describing something as spiritually sacred as lovemaking as "laying the pipe," etc. This type of thinking is also transpired through religious doctrine, specifically Christianity and Islam, where men are the centerpiece of the religion. In Genesis (written in the Hebrew bible), men are instructed to 'dominate' the earth and all that is in it. They are also told that 'God' is in the image of a 'man.' This lays the foundation for how Christian men will relate to Christian women and the environment which is usually destructive, exploitative, controlling, and obsessive. The reason is because they are not taught to share the earth with other living beings; they are taught to 'dominate' them and to take on an authoritative position in their relationships with others. Therefore, the creation of "pornography" is no more than a manifestation of this cultural programming. It is essentially a cultural pathological disease, which ultimately emanates from a people who desparately need to believe that women are inferior and should be treated as such. What African American men need to do is to RESEARCH, then closely examine how their ancestors interacted with African women prior to their cultural and mental colonization, prior to white enslavers showing you how to sexually abuse, misunderstand, rape, and resent African women. Very well written. You may have missed it when pornography was posted on this board, and was said to represent 'me'. I had to clarify with the ignorant on here (who have since then been removed) and explain the difference between nudity and pornography. I don't have a problem with nudity (I'm not an old prune). I feel the human body is extremely beautiful, or at least in many cases it can be  Love making as you put it should be sacred. After you as a couple decide it is no longer for pro-creation, it can become a very spiritual event (Tantra etc.) Pornography on the other hand can be very harmful to children, and there are many adults who are addicted to it. The post put on here in reference to me was of a white female in a sexual manner with a dog. I could never express enough on here how hurt and offended I was by that. My son was in the room with me when that pic came up. I had to quickly exit this site, but not soon enough...I had to have a very long talk with him. It sickend me to my stomach when I came back later to respond to it. It showed me however that person was spiritually and mentally lost when debating with me. When I speak out about sex between adults and children (those under age 18) I do so because I know there is more to being ready for sex than breast and body hair. Sexuality is more complicated than the physical act. To take a person who is not mentally ready, and I am not saying that even at 18 they are--you can taint their views of sex forever. I have met women on both sides of the spectrum who have been ruined sexually. Some who were molested began to use sex as their main means of relating with men. They could only relate to a man sexually. They could not develop a serious relationship first, it is just sex sex sex, and often she doesn't even derive pleasure from it. The other side is women who are just turned off from sex completely. There bodies have been defouled so much, they no longer care for intimacy with a man. This is the harm that can be done to our women when men just "lay that pipe".  Great sex isn't just getting all sweating and going bang, bang, bang, bang, bang---when done properly (or improperly and harmful) you can effect your partners energies, chakras, Qi, you can heal each other--give energy, take energy so on. |
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Post by Rowe on Feb 2, 2004 18:42:21 GMT -5
It is unfortunate that you had to experience such humiliation, especially when being humiliated is not the reason why people join discussion forums in the first place. Nevertheless, we must be mindful that everyone does not have the good fortune of being positively socialized and groomed in the proper social environment. In any event, I too am familar with the Chakra philosophy in relation to the human body. I think the philosophy is valuable since it has apparently helped some people to take their lives, as well as the lives of others, more seriously.
However, it is important to note that American men are the largest consumers of pornography; therefore, any solutions that issues from this discussion should involve them. One should investigate what in the American male's mind draws him to pornography? Why is seeing a woman having intercourse with an animal stimulating to them? Again, my contention is that it points to a larger cultural problem and/or cultural dis-ease where people are allowed so much existential "freedom" that the moral fiber of their culture begins to deteriorate. Subsequently, they resort to self-destructive behaviors which include abusing themselves, abusing others, and even innocent animals! What is more astonishing is that European-Americans have the absolute nerve to pass judgement on what goes on in other people's country (so-called "Third World," "Underdeveloped" countries) when they are incapable of regulating what goes on in their own.
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Post by GTOM on Feb 18, 2004 5:21:46 GMT -5
Being that I work in "Adult" Media" I can honestly tell you that the number of people who actually do bad things because of PORN is LOW because 85% of people who SURF the web SURF for PORN. Now ask yourself. How many Child molestors and Rapists do you see surfing the web. 85% !!!! that means according to what your trying to insinuate is that 85% of people who surf the web are childmolestors?  The problem with childmolestation and is deeper then porn. It stems back to something that happened when the molestor was a child. I have been watching porn since I was 10 and i never commited a sex crime....but i do make a lot of money off suckers that prob do.... ( DAMN IM CURUPTED !!!) |
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Post by imaangel on Mar 1, 2004 15:39:05 GMT -5
Family,
Air Freshener - Please! Swoosh
This message is for ALL true Nuwaubians. Creeps and knuckleheads need not respond. Don't fall for the gutter talk. Enemies congregate on this site with one single mission to discuss Maku. They hope to bait you in and attack. Allow them to discuss it amongst themselves. Don't swim in their filth. They think that character bashing and attacking Nuwaubians will assist them in their mission. They are fools.
We teach TRUTH and that is the bottom line. If you must speak up, defend and set the record straight. I see some us are doing just that. Stick to the facts. Don't discuss our Maku with low lifers. Beat 'em down with the facts. All they have is anger and contempt, which means they speak nonsense.
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Post by ELTRUTH on Mar 2, 2004 10:09:49 GMT -5
Being that I work in "Adult" Media" I can honestly tell you that the number of people who actually do bad things because of PORN is LOW because 85% of people who SURF the web SURF for PORN. Now ask yourself. How many Child molestors and Rapists do you see surfing the web. 85% !!!! that means according to what your trying to insinuate is that 85% of people who surf the web are childmolestors? The problem with childmolestation and is deeper then porn. It stems back to something that happened when the molestor was a child. I have been watching porn since I was 10 and i never commited a sex crime....but i do make a lot of money off suckers that prob do.... ( DAMN IM CURUPTED !!!) check this link: www.protectkids.com/effects/harms.htmits about How Pornography Harms Children these are just some excerpts... ...Among the child molesters incited, the study reported that 53 percent of them deliberately used the stimuli of pornography as they prepared to offend.
...Pornography's Relationship to Child MolestationIn a study of convicted child molesters, 77 percent of those who molested boys and 87 percent of those who molested girls admitted to the habitual use of pornography in the commission of their crimes.iii Besides stimulating the perpetrator, pornography facilitates child molestation in several ways. For example, pedophiles use pornographic photos to demonstrate to their victims what they want them to do. They also use them to arouse a child or to lower a child's inhibitions and communicate to the unsuspecting child that a particular sexual activity is okay: "This person is enjoying it; so will you." .... ...When male subjects were exposed to as little as six weeks' worth of standard hard-core pornography, they: developed an increased sexual callousness toward women began to trivialize rape as a criminal offense or no longer considered it a crime at all developed distorted perceptions about sexuality developed an appetite for more deviant, bizarre, or violent types of pornography (normal sex no longer seemed to do the job) devalued the importance of monogamy and lacked confidence in marriage as either a viable or lasting institution viewed nonmonogamous relationships as normal and natural behavior Exposure to Pornography Interferes with a Child's
Development and Identity
According to Tom Minneys book- "Pornography, A Human Tragedy", in a study against convicted child molesters, 77% of those who molested boys, and 87% of those who molested girls admitted to habitual use of pornography in the commission of their crimes. Besides used for stimulation, the molesters used pornography to demonstrate to the victims what they want them to do, arouse a child or to lower their inhibitions to ease the child into what is about to happen, to reassure them that its okay. |
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Post by NAR on Mar 4, 2004 10:05:33 GMT -5
What is pornography? It is the story written about prostitutes. What are prostitutes? The word pro-stitute means "first establishment (man meeting wombman)." So, literally, pornography has something to do with the telling of the first establishment (Djed, Tet). |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Mar 4, 2004 10:19:06 GMT -5
Pornography is a powerful medium. Right up there wit Hieroglyphs. SO POWERFUL the church banned it!  . I wonder why ? |
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Post by GTOM on Mar 7, 2004 0:32:42 GMT -5
Sure the Majority of Childmolestors watch PORN... but that does not mean the Majority of people who watch porn are CHildmolestors.
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Post by ELTRUTH on Mar 7, 2004 7:05:04 GMT -5
GTO- i dont think ANYone was making that point that people who watch porn are child molesters- the point being made- correct me if i am wrong is that - it is a PROVEN FACT that majority of child molesters USE some form of porn to get to childrend- to seduce them- or lower there inhibitions- to 'teach' them what to do- to make it ok- thats the ONLY point i have seen on these threads- so there is no need to have to defend people who watch it- if your grown adult- thats wyour thing- thats your thing - this IS america and people should be comfortable in their own sexuality and prefrences- but to use it to destroy a child is a sin and also ILLEGAL in this great country that we all CHOOSE to reside in- and according to doc own doctrine- live by the laws in which u reside in- also its a PROVEN fact that porn affects people or kids diffenrenlty- maybe that is why out of the 100's of kids/sisters/banaats/ what ever that he was messing with a small handfull stood up againt him for what was right- but there are MANY kids who were deeply affected by it and never stood up- whos parents are having hard times dealing with there kids and dont know why there are so angry - have issues- or 'all of a sudden' gay- which again the point isnt about being gay or not- its your natural right and prefrence- but when u have someone that is turned that way becasue of things that happend to them so they dont trust men- or belives what doc said about all men being alike- or the fact that doc left sucha bad taste in their mouth  - to thats why they may turn there backs on men- then its not realy their nature- but more of an escape becasue of problems with their past. so keep watching,shooting, buying or selling your porn- u grown - thats u- but i think u missed the point of the use of it- the same way someone can watch a movie and chop of 30 people behind it and others just eats some popcorn-im hoping that your eating the popcorn |
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Post by GTOM on Mar 10, 2004 0:50:48 GMT -5
The PORN that these MOLESTORS watch is not JUST the same TYPE of PORN that the Average JOE WATCH. you seen that movie 8MM? They watch CARTOON PORN, KID PORN , BEASTIALITY, DEFICATION and BONDAGE FLICKS. MOST people ( yeah , even if you dont want to admit it ) watch the basic Boy /Girl or Girl /Girl bad acting type stuff. Most child molestors are FAMILY MEMBERS. They get the kids attention by being KIND. KIDS are taught not to speak to STRANGERS. the Key word in STRANGERS is STRANGE. Now if a PERSON looks STRANGE, then a child wont go with Him/Her. If the Person looks kind and trustable, then a child is more veurnerable. EXAMPLE You seen that epsiode of Different Strokes.. you know the Classic one where DUDDLY came out the Bath room in his draws and said "I DONT FEEL TOO GOOD". The same tactics that the BIKE SHOP MOLESTER used is what MOST CHILD MOLESTORS uses....These were the same tactics someone like DR YORK would use. SOmeone you knew for a LONG TIME, Earned Trust. BAM!!! www.geocities.com/misstrenee/differentstrokes.htmlEXAMPLE : Remember the Atlanta Child Killings in the early 1980's. If you look at the guy who did it, he looked like AUTHUR ASHE. Nice and Quite on the Out side. He would befriend those kids that day and kill them the SAME DAY. like i said earlier, kids are taught not to talk to STRANGE PEOPLE ( STRANGERS ) when they should be taught NOT TO TALK TO PEOPLE THEY DONT KNOW. EXAMPLE : Molestation has its roots in the molestors child hood. R KELLY is a child molestor because he didnt get no ass when he was a High School NERD so he makes up for that time by having sex with Girls who are in HIGH SCHOOL. There are LOTS of CASES you can PIN POINT on a MOLESTER, YES they DO WATCH PORN. But is PORN the DRIVING FACTOR, NO. Their PSYCOLOGICAL problem is DEEPER then that. Im Married and I got into this business by LUCK. I was not looking to get into this, I just knew how to make web sites and had to pay off my Student LOAN and this was a way to make quick money back in the late 90's. If i was really into PORN, i wouldnt be on this BOARD writting all reading all the time. - so there is no need to have to defend people who watch it- if your grown adult- thats wyour thing- thats your thing - this IS america and people should be comfortable in their own sexuality and prefrences- but to use it to destroy a child is a sin and also ILLEGAL in this great country that we all CHOOSE to reside in- and according to doc own doctrine- live by the laws in which u reside in- also its a PROVEN fact that porn affects people or kids diffenrenlty- maybe that is why out of the 100's of kids/sisters/banaats/ what ever that he was messing with a small handfull stood up againt him for what was right- but there are MANY kids who were deeply affected by it and never stood up- whos parents are having hard times dealing with there kids and dont know why there are so angry - have issues- or 'all of a sudden' gay- which again the point isnt about being gay or not- its your natural right and prefrence- but when u have someone that is turned that way becasue of things that happend to them so they dont trust men- or belives what doc said about all men being alike- or the fact that doc left sucha bad taste in their mouth - to thats why they may turn there backs on men- then its not realy their nature- but more of an escape becasue of problems with their past. so keep watching,shooting, buying or selling your porn- u grown - thats u- but i think u missed the point of the use of it- the same way someone can watch a movie and chop of 30 people behind it and others just eats some popcorn-im hoping that your eating the popcorn |
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