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Post by MLG9X9 on Jun 8, 2003 8:38:51 GMT -5
EXPLAIN THIS PLEASE.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 8, 2003 9:20:49 GMT -5
I have heard this also and can relate to it. On one level, english is considered a bastard tongue because of its fusion of many ancestral languages. This is very similar to babel; fusion (con- fusion) of tongues before the division. I will build on this. Peace.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jan 21, 2004 18:35:23 GMT -5
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Post by GTOM on Apr 20, 2004 5:16:52 GMT -5
There is no such thing as any one divine language. From my studies, symbolisim is found in all languages thus making all languages divine for communication is a divine act.
Man has existed for millions of years and did communicate back then. Language is only as old as the Sumerians.
So in conclusion, its not a language that is divine but the act of comminication. Communication (communion) is something that we all do. Everything communicates on this planet and the U-N-I-Verse.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 20, 2004 9:21:22 GMT -5
I agree all languages are divine . English happens to be the one that is most luminous in our day and time. There is no such thing as any one divine language. From my studies, symbolisim is found in all languages thus making all languages divine for communication is a divine act. Man has existed for millions of years and did communicate back then. Language is only as old as the Sumerians. So in conclusion, its not a language that is divine but the act of comminication. Communication (communion) is something that we all do. Everything communicates on this planet and the U-N-I-Verse.
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Post by DREAllah on Apr 26, 2004 17:44:00 GMT -5
Supreme Mathematics is the so-called "divine language". Not English. If you are refering to Supreme ALPHABET, that is used on this Poor Part of the Planet Earth, to relate elements of the English Alphabet to the Science of Life. Peace.
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Post by AllahJihad on May 3, 2004 19:45:04 GMT -5
Peace Dre Allah, It is not wise to use thing such as " so-called " when speaking of something that belongs to the Nation your apart of because it makes it look like either you don't know or you disagree. If you disagree, then explain why. Mathematics is a Universal Language and Supremem Mathematics is the Nation of Gods and Earths universal language is how I see it.
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Post by DREAllah on May 5, 2004 9:12:02 GMT -5
Peace Allah Jihad. I was saying that this guy invented the terminology "the divine language" not that Our Language is not Divine. Peace. Peace Dre Allah, It is not wise to use thing such as " so-called " when speaking of something that belongs to the Nation your apart of because it makes it look like either you don't know or you disagree. If you disagree, then explain why. Mathematics is a Universal Language and Supremem Mathematics is the Nation of Gods and Earths universal language is how I see it.
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Post by PaNedu1 on Sept 16, 2004 12:06:21 GMT -5
I have heard this also and can relate to it. On one level, english is considered a bastard tongue because of its fusion of many ancestral languages. This is very similar to babel; fusion (con- fusion) of tongues before the division. I will build on this. Peace. You starting off wrong and is in error, for making such a reply. The word Babel don't translate to no state of confusion - it's what the term has come to mean (over time). Before you start to comment or delve into a particular tongue or dialect, you must first learn to translate. Do you read, and write the Aramiy'Ibriy? Of course you don't, because chances are, i wouldn't be typing this. The word Babel means "DOORWAY TO EL" (BAB- MEANING DOOR AND EL- MEANING SOURCE, DEITY, AND TODAY GOD). by the way, i do read the so-called Hebrew, Greek, Arabiya, Spanish, (working on Latin), as well as Nuwaubic, and of course American English as well. I wish you take the time out to learn and study some of these things, before we place comment on them.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Sept 16, 2004 12:19:14 GMT -5
First comment on the board and you come out blazin! All good bros. This board is about dispensing knowledge. If you have to offer gr8!. If I err and you check me on it, SO BE IT! Not afraid to be corrected. Aight lets deal wit babel... The hebraeic etymology on babel - it's from the prime root - Balal which means to mix or mingle, hence the word con- fusion; . The word babel also contains sumerian PHOENETIC ROOTS Bab and El, whereas Bab = gate or door, and El - phoenecian deity, thereby rendering the definition GATEWAY TO EL. In this you are correct. But WORDS EVOLVE. The hebrews re-defined the word as confustion because of the *result* of what happened to those who were attempting to reach 'EL' thru this 'BAB'. As I said before will say again, BABEL at the present in its evolutionary stage means - CONFUSION. Peace You starting off wrong and is in error, for making such a reply. The word Babel don't translate to no state of confusion - it's what the term has come to mean (over time). Before you start to comment or delve into a particular tongue or dialect, you must first learn to translate. Do you read, and write the Aramiy'Ibriy? Of course you don't, because chances are, i wouldn't be typing this. The word Babel means "DOORWAY TO EL" (BAB- MEANING DOOR AND EL- MEANING SOURCE, DEITY, AND TODAY GOD). by the way, i do read the so-called Hebrew, Greek, Arabiya, Spanish, (working on Latin), as well as Nuwaubic, and of course American English as well. I wish you take the time out to learn and study some of these things, before we place comment on them.
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Post by PaNedu1 on Sept 16, 2004 12:20:08 GMT -5
Peace Allah Jihad. I was saying that this guy invented the terminology "the divine language" not that Our Language is not Divine. Peace. How can Supreme Mathematics be the Divine Language, when it uses American English (which is a product of other dialects) pieced together? I've knowledged my 120 (under the title of Wise Allah) and even wrote a few articles back then, in the late 90's. How can you take a broken corrupt dialect, and proclaim it Supreme (THE GREATEST OF ALL)? This is (if not anything else) opinionated.you have to get back into the origin of the languages... Are the mathematics more Supreme than the Ancient Hieroglyhs, and the Cuneiform? And if so, then why didn't The Ancient Egiptian and Sumerians, Dogons, etc. use it (in the sense that You 5%ers are using it today? Was they using the supreme alphabets to build their culture (and if yes, show me)? Did they use that kind of talk to build and construct the pyramids? What language did W. D. Ford give y'all? How was he (W.D. Fard) the Supreme Being (or Allah In Person) and it is said, that he was able to speak 16 langauges, and able to write down 10, when there are 100's of languages all over the face of the planet earth?
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Post by kAHANyAH on Sept 16, 2004 12:30:15 GMT -5
We are first introduced to the word/concept confusion [babel] in the 7th verse of chp 11 in genesis...
Gen 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
The word confound is balal. Babel took on the meaning of that word as a result of what the people were doing - entering the doorway to el, the Elohim decided to "balal" their city. Babel became a city where elohim confounded the tongues of the people to prevent them from entering the bab to reach El.
Do you see how the word evolves my brother ?
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Post by PaNedu1 on Sept 16, 2004 12:41:22 GMT -5
First comment on the board and you come out blazin! All good bros. This board is about dispensing knowledge. If you have to offer gr8!. If I err and you check me on it, SO BE IT! Not afraid to be corrected. Aight lets deal wit babel... The hebraeic etymology on babel - it's from the prime root - Balel which means to mix or mingle, hence the word con- fusion; . The word babel also contains sumerian PHOENETIC ROOTS Bab and El, whereas Bab = gate or door, and El - phoenecian deity, thereby rendering the definition GATEWAY TO EL. In this you are correct. But WORDS EVOLVE. The hebrews re-defined the word as confustion because of the *result* of what happened to those who were attempting to reach 'EL' thru this 'BAB'. As I said before will say again, BABEL at the present in its evolutionary stage means - CONFUSION. Peace Yes, true indeed words evolve, but why continue to compromise, and take things out of context, if our research provides better? and it says in the bible (mostly from where we are basing this at) Genesis 11:1-9>>11 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. 4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. 5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. 6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. 8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. 9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth. So they actually spoke one language (in the region that they were in, which was Shinar, which is present day Iraq). So what were they (or who were they) confused with? According to the bible he scattered them, and confused their tongue, but this was over time. And yes, I agree, later the tongues became con-fused (with fusion). But (again) why take the word out of context, and join fellowship with those who delight in such error (be they Hebrews, Jews, Muslims, Five Percenters, etc.)?
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Post by kAHANyAH on Sept 16, 2004 12:42:36 GMT -5
Break down on the word "ENGLISH"
English means -pertaining to [ish] to Engl. 'Engl' is a contracted form for 'Angel'. In essence the word English means [tongue or language] pertaining to Angels.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Sept 16, 2004 12:46:51 GMT -5
Your research or the info that many like you have come to know is FLAWED. Why ? because it doesnt take into consideration the "OUTCOME" of that kingdom. If it were up to you and those who think like you, many will think Babel or the things pertaining to it is the way to G-d. Babel was destroyed! so obviously its a mis-leading doorway to El. This is where many peeps who trace babel to its sumerian roots fail. They fail because they look over the demise of that kingdom. They fail because they ignore how that kingdom broke divine laws. They fail because that kingdom is really a BACKDOOR entrance to the abode of the gods. They may have it right that its a door way, but which door - BACK OR FRONT ? Ever look at that way my brother ? Peace. Yes, true indeed words evolve, but why continue to compromise, and take things out of context, if our research provides better? and it says in the bible (mostly from where we are basing this at) Genesis 11:1-9>>11 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. 4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. 5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. 6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. 8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. 9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth. So they actually spoke one language (in the region that they were in, which was Shinar, which is present day Iraq). So what were they (or who were they) confused with? According to the bible he scattered them, and confused their tongue, but this was over time. And yes, I agree, later the tongues became con-fused (with fusion). But (again) why take the word out of context, and join fellowship with those who delight in such error (be they Hebrews, Jews, Muslims, Five Percenters, etc.)?
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