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Post by chakatak on Jul 28, 2004 23:48:32 GMT -5
is that a trick question do i come in recklessness/ no i come in orderly abandon-ment as aposed to reckless abandonment  Okay Linette lets cut to the chase! It aint take too long to figure you are chakatak. Are you here in peace or you come in your usual reckless mode ? |
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Post by gamaliel on Aug 30, 2004 20:11:51 GMT -5
Studying the cabala I had read about Enoch becoming an ArchAngel assigned to humans called Metetron. I never equated that with Lucifer though. Carlos Santana claimed Metetron visited him and inspired him to do his SUPERNATURAL album. There is one rocker who does a lotta songs about Lucifer still being God's "right-hand man" and his name is Glen Danzig. Ever heard his stuff?  |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 30, 2004 20:23:52 GMT -5
Never heard of 'em. Got any clips you can post so I can hear his stuff. Maybe I know his music but not his name. That happens quite often wit me. Studying the cabala I had read about Enoch becoming an ArchAngel assigned to humans called Metetron. I never equated that with Lucifer though. Carlos Santana claimed Metetron visited him and inspired him to do his SUPERNATURAL album. There is one rocker who does a lotta songs about Lucifer still being God's "right-hand man" and his name is Glen Danzig. Ever heard his stuff? |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 30, 2004 20:27:29 GMT -5
i had a revelation about Santana one time. Satan loved his music. Well if you look at Satana's name, it sure looks like Satan!  |
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Post by gamaliel on Aug 30, 2004 20:29:59 GMT -5
Never heard of 'em. Got any clips you can post so I can hear his stuff. Maybe I know his music but not his name. That happens quite often wit me. The band's name is Danzig. Theyre signed unto Rick Rubin's American label. U can hear samples of his music on www.amazon.com.  |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 30, 2004 20:33:20 GMT -5
will do ,
thnx
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Post by GTOM on Aug 30, 2004 20:50:34 GMT -5
I find it funny how you guys sit here and debate this as if ENOCH/YHWH/LUCIPHER were based on Fact.
YHWH is LUCIPHER.. if you want it to be.
LUCIPHER is ENOCH... if you want it to be.
ENOCH is METATRON... if you want it to be.
Everything yall are saying makes sense.
BUT
You need to stop looking at these characters as if they were FACT. They are no more then Judaic Symbols of Universal Truths.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 31, 2004 5:14:33 GMT -5
Universal truths are incorporated in the person. The person in turn makes it fact.  I find it funny how you guys sit here and debate this as if ENOCH/YHWH/LUCIPHER were based on Fact. YHWH is LUCIPHER.. if you want it to be. LUCIPHER is ENOCH... if you want it to be. ENOCH is METATRON... if you want it to be. Everything yall are saying makes sense. BUT You need to stop looking at these characters as if they were FACT. They are no more then Judaic Symbols of Universal Truths. /me |
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Post by gamaliel on Aug 31, 2004 19:22:55 GMT -5
UNIVERSAL TRUTHS OK cool...but if thats all it is as far as scriptures whats the point? That go for the Orishas of west Africa as well? Might as well be an atheist then. If no real people lived and experienced these things what good is it? Just a sincere question.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 31, 2004 19:33:39 GMT -5
I think brother GTO is goin thru bible.religion.spiritual withdrawal. Give him some time, he'll come back to his moderate senses. Hes gone from one extreme to another. Alot of peeps go thru that when they experience some form of trauma at the hand of that which they once believed so dearly. UNIVERSAL TRUTHS OK cool...but if thats all it is as far as scriptures whats the point? That go for the Orishas of west Africa as well? Might as well be an atheist then. If no real people lived and experienced these things what good is it? Just a sincere question. /me |
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Post by gamaliel on Aug 31, 2004 19:46:20 GMT -5
I went through that in the late 80's and early 90's.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 31, 2004 19:53:55 GMT -5
I've been there and done that too. In the early 90s. I went through that in the late 80's and early 90's. |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Aug 31, 2004 20:45:51 GMT -5
Im currently re-reading the tablets of enoch. Metatron [enoch after the translation] is considered a lesser_YHWH in the arabot [7th heaven] spheres. He is not an Heyliel (though there are striking similarities between Metatron and the lucifer in Isaiah's prphecy). Heyliel is a YHWH , unlike Enoch who is a jr. or lesser YHWH.
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