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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 19, 2004 11:36:14 GMT -5
According to the scrolls of Enoch, Lucifer is the prince of the holy creatures encountered by Ezekiel.
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Post by Zandor on Jun 19, 2004 11:52:30 GMT -5
Lucifer is Enoch! Enoch was Lucifer's physical body... Enoch walked with God, and he was not, for God took him. Genesis 5:24
According to the scrolls of Enoch, Lucifer is the prince of the holy creatures encountered by Ezekiel.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 19, 2004 11:56:21 GMT -5
3 Enoch 20.1
20. R. Ishmael said : The angel Metatron, Prince of the Divine Presence, said to me: Above them is a great and powerful prince, Hayliel_YHWH [lucifer] is his name, a prince noble and terrible, a prince sovereign and mighty, a prince great and dreaded, a prince from whom all the celestials shrink back, a prince who is able to swallow the whole world at one gulp. Why is his name called Hayliel ? Because he is in charge of the creatures and he whips them with lashes of fire. He extols them when they utter praise and glory, and makes them hasten to say,
holy, holy, holy, and Blessed he the glory of the Lord in his dwelling place.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 19, 2004 11:58:07 GMT -5
I agree. All these deified names we find in the scrolls of enoch are divinities unravelling within Enoch . Lucifer is Enoch! Enoch was Lucifer's physical body... Enoch walked with God, and he was not, for God took him. Genesis 5:24
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 19, 2004 12:06:18 GMT -5
Becoming acquainted with deities brings you closer to walking with G-d. Once you become *aware* of a host or legion, you are now walking with G-d.
Each deity/divinity is a name. This is your job, as it was Enoch's (to become acquainted thru names/attributes) - Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 19, 2004 12:09:13 GMT -5
- continued from previous post -
The man possessed wit the legion [host] began to walk wit G-d...
Mar 5:9 And he asked him, What [is] thy name? And he answered, saying, My name [is] Legion: for we are many.
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Post by Zakiah Levanah on Jun 19, 2004 13:06:01 GMT -5
That reminds me of what someone spoke of in reference tp "High magic" or "White magic". There is a Protection spell that summons all the ark angels and YHWH and you are supposed to be walking with them. I can't attest because I NEVER summoned nobody b4 conciously . Becoming acquainted with deities brings you closer to walking with G-d. Once you become *aware* of a host or legion, you are now walking with G-d. Each deity/divinity is a name. This is your job, as it was Enoch's (to become acquainted thru names/attributes) - Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 19, 2004 13:11:56 GMT -5
kina like goin into the lesser ring of Salomonis. There is a book of majic that deals wit that. That reminds me of what someone spoke of in reference tp "High magic" or "White magic". There is a Protection spell that summons all the ark angels and YHWH and you are supposed to be walking with them. I can't attest because I NEVER summoned nobody b4 conciously .
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Post by Zakiah Levanah on Jun 19, 2004 13:33:15 GMT -5
kina like goin into the lesser ring of Salomonis. There is a book of majic that deals wit that. I remember when I was about 21 a freind of mine had a book called "Goetia" or something the keys of Solomon. It was about sorcery and 70 spirits to command. (Out of my league) It was hard enough for me managing people in a fast food restaurant, I wasn't and still ain't trynna command no spirits like that, Yunno.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 19, 2004 13:44:02 GMT -5
Thats one of 'em - The Goetia is by Aleister Crawley the nutcase (in my opinion. Ever seen a picture of him ? Skurry lookin dude : . I have the book Clavicula Salomonis by Mathers. It conjurs up more of the infernals. I have a couple of other books on adjuring ceremonies that call up entities of all four elements. Also I've been to actual seance, rituals and stuff and seen peeps get ride by spirits. And i mean some real "you know what" slinging forces!. Aint a pretty site! I remember when I was about 21 a freind of mine had a book called "Goetia" or something the keys of Solomon. It was about sorcery and 70 spirits to command. (Out of my league) It was hard enough for me managing people in a fast food restaurant, I wasn't and still ain't trynna command no spirits like that, Yunno.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 19, 2004 14:03:53 GMT -5
Lucifer is from the hebrew Heylel , from the prime root - haylal to shine. This is how the latin word Lucifer came to be ; Lucifer = Luc [lux] + ferous [bearing] or one who bears light (lux). Heylel (lucifer) also means one who requires *praise*. He is the god all praises are due - ref., rev 19.4 ... - Rev 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
In the above verse, its actually saying Lucifer is a YHWH; Alleluia = Hallal (heylel) +jah (yhwh). Confirming the enoch verse which speaks of Heyliel_YHWH
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Post by chakatak on Jul 28, 2004 6:41:29 GMT -5
I would reallllllllllly like to get into a discussion about this with you but i will refrain, can i ask you a question is book knowledge all you have to go by for insight? Lucifer is from the hebrew Heylel , from the prime root - haylal to shine. This is how the latin word Lucifer came to be ; Lucifer = Luc [lux] + ferous [bearing] or one who bears light (lux). Heylel (lucifer) also means one who requires *praise*. He is the god all praises are due - ref., rev 19.4 ... - Rev 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
In the above verse, its actually saying Lucifer is a YHWH; Alleluia = Hallal (heylel) +jah (yhwh). Confirming the enoch verse which speaks of Heyliel YHWH
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jul 28, 2004 8:27:25 GMT -5
Not at all. However books , specifically ancient writings is the standard or base one should try as much as possible to verify and validate what he/she is saying. Other wise we'd live in a world full of babel and anyone would be spawning any type of ish from the mind. And that is KAOS. Btw..., you are new here so nice to meet you chakatak. I would reallllllllllly like to get into a discussion about this with you but i will refrain, can i ask you a question is book knowledge all you have to go by for insight?
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Post by chakatak on Jul 28, 2004 15:52:24 GMT -5
you love to throw that word around caos but you dont really know the tru meaning of that word i would suggest you go and find one of your books and get the true meaning of that interpreted word. then lets discuss lucifer Not at all. However books , specifically ancient writings is the standard or base one should try as much as possible to verify and validate what he/she is saying. Other wise we'd live in a world full of babel and anyone would be spawning any type of ish from the mind. And that is KAOS. Btw..., you are new here so nice to meet you chakatak.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jul 28, 2004 16:22:04 GMT -5
Okay Linette lets cut to the chase! It aint take too long to figure you are chakatak. Are you here in peace or you come in your usual reckless mode ? you love to throw that word around caos but you dont really know the tru meaning of that word i would suggest you go and find one of your books and get the true meaning of that interpreted word. then lets discuss lucifer
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