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[Zakiah Levanah]

A Nuwaubian who went back into Christianity… Would be like an adult going back into the womb of his mother. So Stop fronting you were always a Holy roly Christian who needed a bit more than you got in the church. But didn’t u ever hear that you should NEVER bite the hand that fed you? You ate at the family table till you couldn’t eat any more. You are like that ungrateful child. And you may think you’re walking now with what little understanding of the scriptures you have and with a name like sleep no more but the truth of the matter is you’re sleep walking. Overstand? Did you even read the quotes I gave you?

(Action Point)Tell me Isn’t Pauls story the very same method the serpent used to beguile “eve” in the garden? Therefore Wouldn’t that make him a serpent by nature? A Devil? “Eve” as you christians call her was told one thing by the heavenly father and chose to listen to someone else. Just like you Paulites do. It’s so simple and I’ll spell it out I – tell - you – something – someone – else -comes – and – tells – you – what – I – really – meant – and – you – believe – that – person – over - me??

As for The Noble Dr Malachi Z York El 360/720 not one of your so-called pastors can deal with his rays of light let alone with the source himself. As his students not one of the pastors, imams, rabbis we’ve addressed could ever answer simple questions we’ve put to them. Bring one who can. I repeat not one. They respond exactly the same way you and Sioux Lady do high drama, make a scene to distract attention from the real issue and the issue my brother and sister is and I repeat…”where was God when he created the heavens and the earth?

Then again I forgot you read a couple of our books, came to class, asked questions, liked what you heared about certain things but when it came down to it you couldn’t hang so you took what you liked and left the rest (as you admitted)and now you think you can used your half baked bread to feed the multitudes? You are the child that eats the meat and leaves the vegetables on the plate. and as for your Visions…That Paul stuffs contagious man.

If you want to debate fine but have some respect for the man you CLAIM you studied under or one of his suns/sons will scorch you. Nuwaubians welcome questions so I’ll be more than happy to address Paul some more and show those who want to know how much of a LIAR he was. So look out for the sequel on Paul it’s called. “ They Paul’d the wool over your eyes” Starring Sleep Lady and Sioux no more or what ever your names are. As for the other stuff on your last post it’s so not worth the effort and besides…time is precious. (That’s time as you know it to be) but before all that let me address Roman 3:7



Read with an open mind and a sincere heart and you just might get out of bed.

[Zakiah Levanah]

A Nuwaubian who went back into Christianity… Would be like an adult going back into the womb of his mother. So Stop fronting you were always a Holy roly Christian who needed a bit more than you got in the church. But didn’t u ever hear that you should NEVER bite the hand that fed you? You ate at the family table till you couldn’t eat any more. You are like that ungrateful child. And you may think you’re walking now with what little understanding of the scriptures you have and with a name like sleep no more but the truth of the matter is you’re sleep walking. Overstand? Did you even read the quotes I gave you?

(Action Point)Tell me Isn’t Pauls story the very same method the serpent used to beguile “eve” in the garden? Therefore Wouldn’t that make him a serpent by nature? A Devil? “Eve” as you christians call her was told one thing by the heavenly father and chose to listen to someone else. Just like you Paulites do. It’s so simple and I’ll spell it out I – tell - you – something – someone – else -comes – and – tells – you – what – I – really – meant – and – you – believe – that – person – over - me??

As for The Noble Dr Malachi Z York El 360/720 not one of your so-called pastors can deal with his rays of light let alone with the source himself. As his students not one of the pastors, imams, rabbis we’ve addressed could ever answer simple questions we’ve put to them. Bring one who can. I repeat not one. They respond exactly the same way you and Sioux Lady do high drama, make a scene to distract attention from the real issue and the issue my brother and sister is and I repeat…”where was God when he created the heavens and the earth?

Then again I forgot you read a couple of our books, came to class, asked questions, liked what you heared about certain things but when it came down to it you couldn’t hang so you took what you liked and left the rest (as you admitted)and now you think you can used your half baked bread to feed the multitudes? You are the child that eats the meat and leaves the vegetables on the plate. and as for your Visions…That Paul stuffs contagious man.

If you want to debate fine but have some respect for the man you CLAIM you studied under or one of his suns/sons will scorch you. Nuwaubians welcome questions so I’ll be more than happy to address Paul some more and show those who want to know how much of a LIAR he was. So look out for the sequel on Paul it’s called. “ They Paul’d the wool over your eyes” Starring Sleep Lady and Sioux no more or what ever your names are. As for the other stuff on your last post it’s so not worth the effort and besides…time is precious. (That’s time as you know it to be) but before all that let me address Roman 3:7



Read with an open mind and a sincere heart and you just might get out of bed.




ROMANS 3 (I’ve taken this verse for verse)

1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?


PtahBaby Says:

Here we see Paul questioning the importance of circumsicion, which was and IS STILL Law. (Matt 5:17) & (Daniel 7:25) the bottomless pit spoken of in this quote is confirmed in Revelations so it was FUTURE Tense being spoken about. It was referring to a time way after the demon Paul would have died. Anyway this was a covenant made between God Abraham and his sons. It was called the covenant of flesh (circumcision) spoken of in Genesis 17:19-27 and I quote:

19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
20 And as for Ish'ma-el, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.
21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
22 And he left off talking with him, and God went up from Abraham.

23 And Abraham took Ish'ma-el his son, and all that were born in his house, and all that were bought with his money, every male among the men of Abraham's house; and circumcised the flesh of their foreskin in the selfsame day, as God had said unto him.
24 And Abraham was ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.
25 And Ish'ma-el his son was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.
26 In the selfsame day was Abraham circumcised, and Ish'ma-el his son.
27 And all the men of his house, born in the house, and bought with money of the stranger, were circumcised with him.


Sleep no more what is an everlasting covenant? How can Paul even question it if it is an everlasting covenant?? As Jesus (who the liar Paul claimed to meet on the roadside) said in Matt 5:17 and I quote:


17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Again when Jesus says “Till heaven and earth Pass…” we find this spoken of all the way in Revelations 21 where it speaks of a crystal city, a new Jerusalem COMING DOWN from god in heaven. It later on says “there was a new heaven and a new earth for the old heaven and the old earth had passed away” do you see it? The law would be valid until this heaven and earth passes away. Which it obviously hasn’t yet now has it. So circumsicion is still a requirement. But PAUL want’s to question the word of God. Liar!!!

2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

PtahBaby says:

Exactly Paul on to THEM (Judahites) not the Gentiles you went to against Jesus’s word in Matt 10:5 as YOU did Paul in Acts 28:28 Liar !!! So Paul does acknowledge what Jesus says in Matt 15:21-24 read it for yourself. Jesus called the canaanite with canine teeth a DOG (ezekiel 16:0) whose image christians are calling GOD.

3 For what if some did not believe? Shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

PtahBaby says:

What are you harking on about Paul you yourself changed your name from the Hebrew Saul to the Gentile Paul. Did you not believe? You are speaking about yourself. And the answer to this ridiculous question Paul is yes. As Jesus will say to all who follow your account. “ I never knew you…” what this verse is saying is as he came to the Judahites and if some of them don’t believe in him shoudn’t the faith of those he didn’t come to be accepted. (That’s shakespearean english for you.)

4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written,

That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings,

and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

PtahBaby says:

Here Paul says “LET God be true and everyman a liar: as it is written. That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings.. Justified?? Justified in what Paul? What are you trying to Justify? Here he is building up to the classic 3:7 you get it. Further more where is it written that everyman is a liar? (Sincerely). Would that include the Prophets who were men? And the angel Gabriel who was a man (Daniel 9:21) and Jesus himself? This has serious implications Paul. He goes on to say and MIGHTEST OVERCOME WHEN THOU ART JUDGED. Shouldn’t your overcoming judgement go without saying for your good work Paul? Shouldn’t you be one of those who will sit on the right hand side of God? Why do you have doubt Paul?


5 But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man)

Ptah Baby Says:

No Paul don’t try it. Be righteous. How can doing evil works bring good results that’s daft. You speak as a man who spoke to God Paul is that the best you can do? You know the way to salvation and that is by being Christlike and living the way he lived and talking the things he spoke and following the laws he followed. Matt 5:17 which includes circumsicsion, not eating pork, sleeping with canaanites, killing another Israelite worshipping other Gods etc etc. You know this Paul. You don’t have to worry about the unrighteous stuff mate, Jesus said he came to the Sinners so they could be saved. This is why he gave the parable on the prodigal son. Paul goes on to ask is God unrighteous for taking vengence on the unrighteous do gooders?? What madness di bwoy a tark. Who are the Unrighteous then. Those who don’t do right of course that’s all righteousness means doing the right thing. What is the right thing? Doing the things you were commanded to do by the father of course. This was given to moses. The Law. Which the Liar Paul opposes. A way of life.


6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?

[Zakiah Levanah]

PtahBaby Says:

He’s judging the world now Paul. People are dying of Skin cancer Paul and other cancers, Aids, Ebola, Hurricanes , Floods, Wars, Crime, These things are all the result of putting diesel in a ferrari. In other words there is a prescribed way of doing things and because like children we tend to think we know it all when our parents give us instructions we always come of worst with the parent saying “ I told you…” any one had that before? Because we came away from our way of life and follow Pauls eat pork drink and be merry form of christianity we are in trouble with our heavenly fateher.


7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?

Here Paul seperates the global unrighteousness of man and as he says was written and focusses on HIS individual lie unto the glory of God. Next question. Who was judging Paul (who met Jesus on the roadside and was given this great new ministry) I’m baffled. Who could possibly judge Paul to the extent it becomes an issue. As an Nuwaubian I’m not the least bit bothered with what people say about us it’s part of the cross we have to carry Paul. Why is it and issue with you then Paul. When all those folk were saying those things about Malachi he just put a book out on it. Just like that no problem. Further more Jesus says “ Judge not lest you be Judged” Paul should know this. Sinners can’t judge me (In other words) and if Pauls says we are all sinners and unrighteous the only judgement must be from God himself. So I ask again If you are doing Gods work why worry. Unless some other people are judging you and these were the other disciples like John. When you read the Apistlesof john and I quote: 1 John 2:19


19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.


So Paul never I repeat He never met no Jesus on no roadside he is a LIAR! That bit the hand that fed him and wanted to start hi Lying ministry like the fake pastors today.

8 and not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

PtahBaby says:

Remember we just read it 1 john 2:21

That’s what the pastors who follow you are doing Paul. Eating Pork, Lying through their teeth unto the glory off God, Speaking in Tongues?? Another of Paul Lies, Taking money off folk in the name of God. Jesus wasn’t too happy when the priests did that in the temple was he??


There Is None Righteous 9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

PtahBaby Says:

And there you have it JUSTIFYING HIS lie which is to Bring Salvation to the Gentiles (Acts 28:28) Very subtle right? But what do you expect? Gen3:0 and I Quote: “And the serpent was the most SUBTLE creature the Lord God had made.” Obviously too subtle for Sioux Lady and her side kick Sleep no more.





Ptaharqa AKA PtahBaby

[Nehisi]

Now this is what you call TRUE Knowledge. Thank you so much for that uplifting. Unless a person is blind, deaf, and dumb in the mind, there is no reason why they wouldn't overstand. Baba sets the record straight!! What he enlightens you to cannot, will not be taught in a church or a temple. He puts you on the right path of knowledge.

Oooo-OOOooo girlfriend!!! I know you had to touch somebody's nerve with this. Where is Idell and Courtney now!!! I can't wait to hear what they have to say.

I hope that it's not rude of me to ask what forum or webste this info came from.

Again, Write On Sista Levanah

[Zakiah Levanah]

Honestly I didn't even read it. Because the scroll Paul the deceiver was tore down by 1dell and York wrote that one. I just posted it because I thought it may be interesting. It was an interesting argument between he and another brother.
I think that alot of people have a view of christians as some spooks sitting by the door or maybe they had experiences with places packed with sheep. Most people who put down the bible never even read and understood the bible. Paul is a complex brother, he is a debate master, I used to believe that Paul the deceiver scroll until I actually read all Pauls letters, seen who he was talking to and so forth. Christians do the same thing. Pick one verse from Paul and build a doctrine when he clearly was kicking a whole different thesis if you read the whole chapter. Peter said the unlearned would misunderstand him.
People who lack spiritual discernment jump on the first blackity black bandwagon they can identify with. York can kick the conspiracy theories like Leviasthan 666 and the year 2000, but as far as breaking down the scripts I'm not that impressed.

1dell has been working everyday this week. But he probably won't argue it because he did a word for word dispute on Paul the deceiver.
Anyway I'm glad you found it edifying, here is the site.
www.blacknet.co.uk

[CoUrTnEy]

Nothing but a bunch of chita chatta if you ask me.. personally it touched no nerves here. I agree w/ the other Mod here - 1dell sufficiently tore that "paul disciple deceiver" nonsense by York "off the hinges". The whole problem I see with "nuwubu" or whatever it's called today is that they are so worried about "breaking down" other people's religion that they fail to have a good foundation for their own.. ever heard of that saying, "take care of your own back yard before you worry about someone elses"? Well, nuwaubians worldwide would do well to heed this statement.

Zakiah said:

Honestly I didn't even read it. Because the scroll Paul the deceiver was tore down by 1dell and York wrote that one. I just posted it because I thought it may be interesting. It was an interesting argument between he and another brother.
I think that alot of people have a view of christians as some spooks sitting by the door or maybe they had experiences with places packed with sheep. Most people who put down the bible never even read and understood the bible. Paul is a complex brother, he is a debate master, I used to believe that Paul the deceiver scroll until I actually read all Pauls letters, seen who he was talking to and so forth. Christians do the same thing. Pick one verse from Paul and build a doctrine when he clearly was kicking a whole different thesis if you read the whole chapter. Peter said the unlearned would misunderstand him.
People who lack spiritual discernment jump on the first blackity black bandwagon they can identify with. York can kick the conspiracy theories like Leviasthan 666 and the year 2000, but as far as breaking down the scripts I'm not that impressed.

1dell has been working everyday this week. But he probably won't argue it because he did a word for word dispute on Paul the deceiver.
Anyway I'm glad you found it edifying, here is the site.
www.blacknet.co.uk

[sleepnomore]

i remember this ...ptah baby was becoming furious with attacking me, it was because of Ms Zakiah that i decided to check out this site , she seemed so on point with her knowledge, i am thankful for people like her in a sense.....one s that unfold truth and dispose of the false prophets......one

[Zakiah Levanah]

sleepnomore said:

i remember this ...ptah baby was becoming furious with attacking me, it was because of Ms Zakiah that i decided to check out this site , she seemed so on point with her knowledge, i am thankful for people like her in a sense.....one s that unfold truth and dispose of the false prophets......one

Can't take credit for the information, I was cutting and pasting my Ish did the research. But it was my pleasure to come to aid my brethren.

[sleepnomore]

glad u stepped in, good research though, im trying to elevate as much as possible on a daily basis, but indeed did u help, peace my sister.....one

[1dell]

Thanks yall, but IHaWaH's name be praised. If I had moor time I would debunk all of york's books dealing with christianity. YOu have no idea how frustrating it is to hear nuwaubian's ONLY line of defense..."Uh But York's sons will tear you a new butthole" Well, will somebody PLEASE tell me where I can get my hands on them boys! I am SICK and TIRED of "christians"mishandling the word of Alahi and thereby embarassing the entire lot of us worshippers of Al Shadi. The ONLY reason these nuwaubians take such confidence in the texts of york is because they have not seen the defense against them. At least not a WORTHY defense.

I used to hate the quran and was very much against islam but then I took a step back and said to myself "self, you don't know islam well enough to hate it and how can you hate a book you have never read? does that make sense?" I had to answer myself no. So then It makes me 1der, how can Nuwaubians hate a book they have not read or a religion they don't know truley? it makes not sense to me, because IF they had read the bible they would be able to see RIGHT THRU what york has taught against it. They are in a position of weakness, because they can neither prove him right nor wrong. They are at the mercy of york's research team.

Yeah York uses a research team to get the information in his books, a lot of times he doesn't even edit it. The information just goes straight to print, hence the multitude of typos and grammatical mistakes. Let alone the doctrinal mistakes a plenty. I am saying this to say, why rely heart and soul on a man who runs his business thusly and the mistakes are OBVIOUS!!

For those who don't know where to find the Rebuttle to the "Paul the Deceiver" "Scroll" here is the link

illuzion.proboards1.com/index.cgi?board=york&action=display&n=1&thread=4719

I didn't get a chance to complete it because I was using this one site where the book was online. They then started charging and I was about to start paying just to have access to this "scroll" Perhaps when I get come time, I'll go down to "All Eyes on Egypt" to pick me up a copy. It's almost not even worth paying for, I mean on EVERY LAST SINGLE page are an enormous amount of mistakes.

sleepnomore said:

glad u stepped in, good research though, im trying to elevate as much as possible on a daily basis, but indeed did u help, peace my sister.....one

[CoUrTnEy]

Delly,

I might have a copy in my storage. I have one or two anti-Christianity books (by York) I can send you if you like.. save you from paying money that will more than likely go into someone's unworthy pockets.

[Master-9]

1dell said:

Thanks yall, but IHaWaH's name be praised. If I had moor time I would debunk all of york's books dealing with christianity. YOu have no idea how frustrating it is to hear nuwaubian's ONLY line of defense..."Uh But York's sons will tear you a new butthole" Well, will somebody PLEASE tell me where I can get my hands on them boys! I am SICK and TIRED of "christians"mishandling the word of Alahi and thereby embarassing the entire lot of us worshippers of Al Shadi. The ONLY reason these nuwaubians take such confidence in the texts of york is because they have not seen the defense against them. At least not a WORTHY defense.

I used to hate the quran and was very much against islam but then I took a step back and said to myself "self, you don't know islam well enough to hate it and how can you hate a book you have never read? does that make sense?" I had to answer myself no. So then It makes me 1der, how can Nuwaubians hate a book they have not read or a religion they don't know truley? it makes not sense to me, because IF they had read the bible they would be able to see RIGHT THRU what york has taught against it. They are in a position of weakness, because they can neither prove him right nor wrong. They are at the mercy of york's research team.

Yeah York uses a research team to get the information in his books, a lot of times he doesn't even edit it. The information just goes straight to print, hence the multitude of typos and grammatical mistakes. Let alone the doctrinal mistakes a plenty. I am saying this to say, why rely heart and soul on a man who runs his business thusly and the mistakes are OBVIOUS!!

For those who don't know where to find the Rebuttle to the "Paul the Deceiver" "Scroll" here is the link

illuzion.proboards1.com/index.cgi?board=york&action=display&n=1&thread=4719

I didn't get a chance to complete it because I was using this one site where the book was online. They then started charging and I was about to start paying just to have access to this "scroll" Perhaps when I get come time, I'll go down to "All Eyes on Egypt" to pick me up a copy. It's almost not even worth paying for, I mean on EVERY LAST SINGLE page are an enormous amount of mistakes.

My good socalled brother 1dell,

Write a rebuttle book against any of York's books and give it to me, and I will ganrantee it will b match and destroyed by The Supreme Being of this day and time. Take that step and put it on paper like Bilial Phillips did.

Have your self ego party...but you know not what you are worshipping, El Shady, El, Yhwh are demons, when "Sumerian Bible" comes out, I will hand deliver a copy to you.

Wu-Nuwaubu

[sleepnomore]

sumerian bible? you dont speak of material from the gilgamesh epics do you? again i ask a question, because in order to learn you ask ?'s, so within your organization you deal with facts and facts only, why cant the fact be proven that dr york is from another planet"? and if so why doesnt he show you this? and what are the miracles you have witnesses in person by dr york? How does your organization differ from out kemetian forms of science?

[1dell]

Like I said, If I had moor time I would... but why continue to beat a old broke down horse on his way to the glue factory? For the sakes of those that come here and question, then I have answers for them. Making books and all that jazz costs loot, takes time, yada yada. I rather touch the souls directly HERE and leave the information for any to find FREE. And it doesn't cost me a dime.

Dude when are you guys gonna realize it doesn't matter how many books are coming out, in fact why is it gonna take a NEW book to do the job the OLD books couldn't do? Always waiting on a book to do the job.

And here is my problem. Why are nuwaubians so dependant on someone ELSES books, someone ELSES information and someone ELSE to come to their defense? Why is not EVERY nuwaubian equipped to give an answer for the hate they have for christianity? Why can't ANY nuwaubian take ME thru the bible and successfully refute me and prove their "master" correct. How many moor books does the man need to come out with to defeat just one book? What makes it so bad is that his newer books contradict his older books.

Sigh.

Somebody PLEEEAAASSEEE give the York boys (york's sons) The address to this site. I will GLADLY Joust with them. I am sure they are on the net SOMEWHERE. The name 1dell aint no secret to the nuwaubian world. Nor is my web address.

P.S. "Who are my mother, brother, or sister save those who do the will of Abi?

Master-9 said:

My good socalled brother 1dell,

Write a rebuttle book against any of York's books and give it to me, and I will ganrantee it will b match and destroyed by The Supreme Being of this day and time. Take that step and put it on paper like Bilial Phillips did.

Have your self ego party...but you know not what you are worshipping, El Shady, El, Yhwh are demons, when "Sumerian Bible" comes out, I will hand deliver a copy to you.

Wu-Nuwaubu

[Master-9]

1dell said:

P.S. "Who are my mother, brother, or sister save those who do the will of Abi?

Who and where is your Abi and what is his will?