What is a manly man?

[SatiyaH]

Seeing as how Arnold (The Govenator) has recently spoke of “Girlie Men”, I wanted to ask just what is a manly man?

I have quite a few male friends. Actually, I have more male friends than I do female friends, but that’s another topic They are pretty much mutual friends of Derrick and myself.
Anyhow—recently one was visiting and made a comment to Derrick, that I just had to address myself! That comment is now the basis of this post.

He was talking about an associate of his who is in a long term relationship. He says “Well, I bet he’ll tell you in a heartbeat that he really isn’t attracted to his woman. I think it’s just the only pussy he can get.”<br>My first thought was: “Any “man” who says this got way too much bitch in him sounding like a gossipy old lady at a quilting bee—I can’t stand a bitch ass running the mouth like a woman “man”.” Then my next thought was: hmm, now why would a man be in a “long term relationship” with someone he isn’t attracted to, and why would this “manly man” make the comment “I think it’s just the only pussy he can get.” To me, hearing that I sensed some deep rooted insecurities prompting this man to equate manhood with conquering pussy.

So now, what is more manly—a man going around irresponsibly conquering pussy, opening himself and numerous women up to diseases and/or unwanted pregnancies, or a man who is “man enough” to settle down with one woman, honoring a commitment, handling his financial, spiritual and emotional responsibilities in that household?

Those two balls and a dick do not make anyone a man. It will label them the male gender, but it surely does not make them a MAN.
A man takes full responsibilities for his actions. A man is a provider: financially, spiritually, emotionally and mentally.

Women, because of our natures are drawn to drama. Whether we want it or not—and of course most of us do not want it. It’s just that we tend to talk too much. We always want to get to the bottom of something. We analyze shit. We go over it and over it, then say “Aha—let me ask you something else!” We don’t just let things go, thus we get all caught up in drama. I judge a “man” by this. If his life is full of drama—I think, yep—he got too much bitch in him. A few “manly men” that I do know, who are dating more than one woman got that shit in tight control. The women are not trying to claw each other up. They respect that he is seeking out the perfect mate at this time of his life and await their prospective turns to show and prove.
These drama prone/too much bitch having men tend to have lives like Jerry Springer shows.
Just when you think that you’ve seen it all—you look over and sure enough there is an empty chair with yet some more drama waiting back stage.

A Manly Man doesn’t have all that drama because just when drama begins to creep up—he nips it all in the bud. He doesn’t drag the inevitable out. If he’s been doing wrong, and get’s busted—he “man’s up about it”. Takes full responsibility and deals with the situation. In the end—he is respected. May be hated, but at least respected.

[1dell]

true, because even a castrated man can still be a man. Ergo, genitalia don't make you a man it makes you a male. But in the same vain, only a male can be a man. I had this discussion with a lesbian 2 years ago. And she was trying to tell me some bulljank that dicks don't make you man only to try and set me up to say that she can be a man too for that matter and you know what Opossum Daddy says to that "Heffa Please!"

[SatiyaH]

There are women who have been forced to take on male specific roles. Thus the single parent issue of a woman being mommy and daddy.

I don't agree with homosexual relationships/marriages.
If they do occur, and a child is involved--that child has two mothers or two fathers.

If a person is sexually attracted to the same sex--fine--that is sexuality expressed that way--keep it to yourself/your bedroom. However--that whole butch routine with lesbians is disgusting. (chicks with dicks) Same thing with that flaming faggot persona with gays.

[1dell]

indeed. That then begs the question: "What is a man's role and what is a woman's role?" I have said before whatever you both do best in the house do. Some men are better at keeping track of the loot, some women are better, then they should be doing that in their household. Some men like myself like doing laundry (mainly cuz I want it done right and like my ish folded right) and some women don't. Is laundry a "woman's task"? Not in my case. I think we really need to define what a man's role and a woman's role is. because if a woman is doing a neutral task that has been previously defined as a man's role then that will subconsciously make her feel masculine when indeed the task belongs to neither man nor woman but because of it's social implications she will feel influenced

SatiyaH said:

There are women who have been forced to take on male specific roles. Thus the single parent issue of a woman being mommy and daddy.

I don't agree with homosexual relationships/marriages.
If they do occur, and a child is involved--that child has two mothers or two fathers.

If a person is sexually attracted to the same sex--fine--that is sexuality expressed that way--keep it to yourself/your bedroom. However--that whole butch routine with lesbians is disgusting. (chicks with dicks) Same thing with that flaming faggot persona with gays.

[Master-9]

Sexual liberation is nothing new. However, lesbian experimentation is said to be on the up.
Loay Hady spoke to one heterosexual in Nottm who had wanted to explore her sexual identity.
Sexual liberation is nothing new. However, more and more people are feeling free to be open about their individual sexual identity.

Lesbian experimentation has even been in the news as a growing trend with teenage Americans.

Samantha Hull (identity changed) is an American exchange student who has studied at Nottingham Trent University.

Samantha is heterosexual but has had a lesbian experience.

Loay El Hady caught up with her to find out whether it was a one off, a career move, or was she, as many try to pretend, just that drunk.

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Bored? You can now change your job, your clothes or even your sexual orientation.

One in ten people is now presumed to be homosexual, so theoretically the odds must be even higher for bi-sexuals.

The whole area of bisexuality seems rather a grey one; does one experience make you bi? Or is there a basic requirement of activities or perhaps even an initiation to qualify?

First things first, are you a lesbian?
No, I've just been with girls.

When you say "been with", what do you mean?
I've had intimate relationships with girls.

Okay, your gonna have to help me out a little cos it's not as biologically plain sailing, like if you were a guy, you'd say intimate and I'd ask 'so have you shagged them' but that's physically impossible for girls so…<br>Not necessarily…<br>
So how did it start?
Really I just decided I wanted to give it a go, my sexuality is very important to me and I wanted to explore it as much as I could.

How did you go about finding your first lesbian partner?
My friends and I talk about sex a lot. We're really physical with each other and stuff, and we've all seen each other naked so it just seemed natural I'd ask one of them.

Why have you all seen each other naked?
Back home we live together and sometimes we go round the house naked.

(My common sense kicked in) Are you having me on?
No, why?

(I thought better of saying that was weird) So how did you instigate your first ummm… errr… "Session"?
It was with a close friend of mine, we talked about it before for a while, she'd done it before so figured she'd wanna do it with me too, I broached the subject, but she refused, but then when I went to bed that night she came into my room.

And it was a big thing to you?
My sexuality?

No, I mean being with a girl?
Oh yeah - really big - getting sexual with a girl is so different from being with a guy.

Why would it be any different?
Well think Einstein, it's not just about getting to the finish line is it.

Not all guys are like that.
No, but most guys seem to link intimacy and relationships, whereas with a girl that's not a problem. You can just be really intimate plus we have a head start on what other girls might like. Most guys really don't know how sensitive things are or sometimes even where they are!

So really is it just cos you think girls do stuff better?
The doing part isn't so much the issue, obviously guys and girls do different things well to different degrees, like the best sex I've ever had was with a guy and nothing I've done with a girl even compares to it, but if you don't try you'll never know.

Have you done it since?
Yeah.

With just that friend?
No, I've been with four girls doing stuff more than just kissing.

But you wouldn't say you were a lesbian?
No, cos I'm not attracted to girls. It's not all linked you know… sex is something, intimacy is something, and attraction is something else entirely. Most people just don't differentiate.

Was that the first time you'd ever done anything with a girl?
No, I'd kissed girls before, when I was young. First time was when I was 14, at the Virgo party. Everyone was kissing everyone.

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I decided against asking whether that was a girls only party even though it wasn't clear.

While I was impressed that Samantha was into trying new things, I doubt it's a trend that's going to catch on, but then again what do I know.

This was made very clear in a later conversation with Samantha that was a little off the beaten track in which she told me about a hell of load more things she's tried some of which to be honest I hadn't even heard of, and one in particular which I had.

[SatiyaH]

Lesbian, gays and bisexuals are all very different. Lesbians and gays do not "accept" bisexuals into their society. They feel bisexuals are confused, however I personally do not feel that way. I feel a lesbian and a gay is the confused one
Bisexuality is strictly that--sexuality. It isn't emotional attractions to the same sex, but instead an ability to be dual natured. Many have laughed, or frowned upon it--however history has shown us that throughout metaphysical studies is a link back to bisexuality, or duality.

The Chinese symbol of yin/yang is symbolic of bisexuality. I am NOT saying we are all bisexual, because we are not. We all have both natures: male/female. This is shown in Kabalism as well. However, only certain individuals are at the balance--that line dividing the yin/yang which allows them to act upon both natures.

[kAHANyAH]

I agree SatiyaH. And I also think bi-sexual women can be sexxxy in threesomes!. Hell if you ask me that shizzle is encrypted in the bible - you know like a patriarch wit his two main wives. Two is BI!!!! aint it! ?

Oh! let me also state, bi-sexuality should ONLY be applied to women, not men!! Its natural for a chic to be all sensual like that. When its a dude, YUCK!!!

SatiyaH said:

Lesbian, gays and bisexuals are all very different. Lesbians and gays do not "accept" bisexuals into their society. They feel bisexuals are confused, however I personally do not feel that way. I feel a lesbian and a gay is the confused one
Bisexuality is strictly that--sexuality. It isn't emotional attractions to the same sex, but instead an ability to be dual natured. Many have laughed, or frowned upon it--however history has shown us that throughout metaphysical studies is a link back to bisexuality, or duality.

The Chinese symbol of yin/yang is symbolic of bisexuality. I am NOT saying we are all bisexual, because we are not. We all have both natures: male/female. This is shown in Kabalism as well. However, only certain individuals are at the balance--that line dividing the yin/yang which allows them to act upon both natures.

[1dell]

Homosexuality is a form of insanity if you ask me. The women says I am not attracted to men, I am just attracted to women that LOOK LIKE and ACT like men. And the man says I don't like women, just men that LOOK and ACT like women.

thats the craziest ass thing I ever heard of

SatiyaH said:

Lesbian, gays and bisexuals are all very different. Lesbians and gays do not "accept" bisexuals into their society. They feel bisexuals are confused, however I personally do not feel that way. I feel a lesbian and a gay is the confused one
Bisexuality is strictly that--sexuality. It isn't emotional attractions to the same sex, but instead an ability to be dual natured. Many have laughed, or frowned upon it--however history has shown us that throughout metaphysical studies is a link back to bisexuality, or duality.

The Chinese symbol of yin/yang is symbolic of bisexuality. I am NOT saying we are all bisexual, because we are not. We all have both natures: male/female. This is shown in Kabalism as well. However, only certain individuals are at the balance--that line dividing the yin/yang which allows them to act upon both natures.

[SatiyaH]

1dell said:

Homosexuality is a form of insanity if you ask me. The women says I am not attracted to men, I am just attracted to women that LOOK LIKE and ACT like men. And the man says I don't like women, just men that LOOK and ACT like women.

thats the craziest ass thing I ever heard of

And I agree! I can't stand these women who call themselves butch or soft butch. And--they are way more arrogant than any man They act like they can do for a woman way more than a man could. Far from the truth, there are MANY things a man can do that a woman couldn't even come close to

And--I agree with Kah about only women being bisexual. I don't feel a man is capable of dual natures. He's either straight or gay, no in between. For a woman--she doesn't have to "act" like a man to be a bisexual--that is a lesbian waiting to happen!
A woman should be just that: feminine, sensual, pretty, etc. To be bisexual does not imply that she has to put on a strap on and attempt to lay it down!
Bisexual isn't just about some oral sex either--it's way more than that

[1dell]

BISEXUAL chicks are cool as long as I am invited! Oh this is 1dell by the way, not anav.

[SatiyaH]

1dell said:

BISEXUAL chicks are cool as long as I am invited! Oh this is 1dell by the way, not anav.

Whoa--I damn near fell out my seat 'til I read "This is 1Dell"---slowing my heart rate down now, thinking "I never would have suspected"

Well yeah, if your woman was bisexual, I would hope you'd be invited

[1dell]

why did you almost fall out of your chair?

SatiyaH said:

Whoa--I damn near fell out my seat 'til I read "This is 1Dell"---slowing my heart rate down now, thinking "I never would have suspected"

Well yeah, if your woman was bisexual, I would hope you'd be invited

[SatiyaH]

1dell said:

why did you almost fall out of your chair?

I was only joking.
You know what's cool about bisexuals instead of lesbians? Bisexuals don't try to take some woman from their man--where as lesbians are all possessive and shit. They think their store bought penis can outdo a man! Ain't no way! {{{Singing}}} "Ain't nothing like the real thing baby, ain't nothing like the real thing".
Bisexuals often refer to themselves as a friend with benefits! lmao, but they are not homewreckers like lezbo's. Watch out for the lesbians!!!! lmao

[SatiyaH]

I can say that because I've had lesbians try to holla!
Even the "feminine" types are cause they are on this feminist anti-man kick. And, what is with the Rainbow? Anybody know? I sure as hell don't get it.

[1dell]

Sheeeeaaattt!! I fear NO lesbian. I am a man that has study the female anatomy so I know where I am goin. . I can eat puddin better than a lesbian. And without bragging I got a plumber's license from one of the finest schools in Atlantis. Now you know, they got some good plumbing in Atlantis fnord.

SatiyaH said:

I was only joking.
You know what's cool about bisexuals instead of lesbians? Bisexuals don't try to take some woman from their man--where as lesbians are all possessive and shit. They think their store bought penis can outdo a man! Ain't no way! {{{Singing}}} "Ain't nothing like the real thing baby, ain't nothing like the real thing".
Bisexuals often refer to themselves as a friend with benefits! lmao, but they are not homewreckers like lezbo's. Watch out for the lesbians!!!! lmao