Master-9
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You can't stop NUWAUBU!!!!
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Post by Master-9 on Sept 12, 2004 21:44:43 GMT -5
1. Is Jesus(Isa/Yashua/Joshua) the Messiah God?
2. Who created the Devil(Satan) and why?
3. How can a person be saved?
This is not meant to cause a nasty debate, just a respectful question....
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Sept 12, 2004 22:16:44 GMT -5
On the contrary, M9- that is exactly why you asked those questions. I respect nuwupia and dont come barging in over there like gang busters(i leave my debating York to the "York Files" forum - so take your disrespect out of this embassy. If you want the answers you simply need to look in the Bible. End of story. 1. Is Jesus(Isa/Yashua/Joshua) the Messiah God? 2. Who created the Devil(Satan) and why? 3. How can a person be saved? This is not meant to cause a nasty debate, just a respectful question....
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Master-9
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You can't stop NUWAUBU!!!!
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Post by Master-9 on Sept 13, 2004 17:57:32 GMT -5
On the contrary, M9- that is exactly why you asked those questions. I respect nuwupia and dont come barging in over there like gang busters(i leave my debating York to the "York Files" forum - so take your disrespect out of this embassy. If you want the answers you simply need to look in the Bible. End of story. Now you are judging me which the Holy Bible says Judge NOT lease ye be Judged. Courtney I never said that you couldn't post a good and respectful question in the Nuwaupia Forum. York Files is a place of ungodliness from people who call themselves children of God. I as a nuwaubian just ask you a Born Again Christian questions about you faith/religion. If this place isn't to ask questions, then why was it created??? It is evident that you are bias against nuwaupians so if any other REAL christians would like to answer my questions I would be elated.... Your brother in Christ, Master-9
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Sept 13, 2004 18:34:45 GMT -5
There is a difference between judging and having common sense. In this case I am doing the latter. Take it as you want. I truly believe God does not honor stupidity, therefore I am not going to forget my common sense the good Lord gave me.
Also, I never said questions can't be asked here. Don't act coy - motive here is clear.
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Xavier
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Post by Xavier on Sept 19, 2004 22:55:38 GMT -5
Yeshua is Reality/Absolute/GOD made flesh. Our gospels only can convey a small piece of his existence on this plane of Being.
GOD is All. Evil is not seperate from the Absolute. Those of religion quantify a part of the Absolute as evil. I name it process. a part of our evolution. Nothing is outside of All/GOD. Evil/Devil is a part of the play we call Life and GOD is the creator, director, producer, and the play.
To be saved is seek out Yeshua through prayer and asking for redemption,salvation, and forgiveness for the sins we have commited. Accept Him in His Life, Death, and Resurrection. And by His Grace you shall be saved.
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Post by Kerhetmekheetatun on Sept 19, 2004 23:01:39 GMT -5
Xavier-that was beautiful. =o)
Peace
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Post by 1dell on Sept 20, 2004 6:52:51 GMT -5
Ishua is not God but will be one day
IHaWaH created the "devil", why? Shatan was a part of IHaWaH's political staff at one time. Inner jealousies caused him to rebell against IHaWaH, there by making him The Adversary (which is what Shatan/satan means) IHaWaH had nothing to do with the "devil's" personal choice to become Shatan, the Malekites have volition just as we do.
How can one be saved? There are basically 3 ways, one Through keeping the universal/inner Torah, external Torah and 3rd Acknowledging Ishua as IHaWaH's method/instrument of correction to expose the purity of Torah. Accept his teachings and do them which when a man does them, he finds himself keeping Torah, which is the foundation of all methods of salvation as you can see.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Sept 20, 2004 8:31:36 GMT -5
1dell you been reading the Urantian papers lately ? Ishua is not God but will be one day IHaWaH created the "devil", why? Shatan was a part of IHaWaH's political staff at one time. Inner jealousies caused him to rebell against IHaWaH, there by making him The Adversary (which is what Shatan/satan means) IHaWaH had nothing to do with the "devil's" personal choice to become Shatan, the Malekites have volition just as we do. How can one be saved? There are basically 3 ways, one Through keeping the universal/inner Torah, external Torah and 3rd Acknowledging Ishua as IHaWaH's method/instrument of correction to expose the purity of Torah. Accept his teachings and do them which when a man does them, he finds himself keeping Torah, which is the foundation of all methods of salvation as you can see.
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Post by 1dell on Sept 21, 2004 21:15:21 GMT -5
No bro. I never got pass the first paper. I dont' like the urantia. These are just common sense ansaars. If you like I can explain them. 1dell you been reading the Urantian papers lately ?
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Sept 22, 2004 14:21:15 GMT -5
can you give a little info on what the urantia papers are?
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Post by kAHANyAH on Sept 22, 2004 17:37:00 GMT -5
You threw me off when u used the term "volition". Its a common buzz word in the urantia papers. Hey i'd like to hear the explanation. Go for it! No bro. I never got pass the first paper. I dont' like the urantia. These are just common sense ansaars. If you like I can explain them.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Sept 22, 2004 17:44:00 GMT -5
A composition of papes making up a book that goes into the history of Urantia [galactic registry name of planet earth], the cosmogony and cosmology of our local , system, central , super-universe. The angelogy, lucifer rebellion, settling of an epoch in light [1000 yrs], personality assembly of sleeping survivors at a dispensation, fusion of thought adjusters with surviving personality, Adamic uplifting of the indigenous races, story of Michael the local universe sovereign prince as he bestowed [personified] in the flesh in the form of Jesus the son of man and a whole host of topics regarding the spiritual mechanics of existence. Its an interesting read. Peace. can you give a little info on what the urantia papers are?
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Sept 22, 2004 17:53:42 GMT -5
Ok so who authored them? A composition of papes making up a book that goes into the history of Urantia [galactic registry name of planet earth], the cosmogony and cosmology of our local , system, central , super-universe. The angelogy, lucifer rebellion, settling of an epoch in light [1000 yrs], personality assembly of sleeping survivors at a dispensation, fusion of thought adjusters with surviving personality, Adamic uplifting of the indigenous races, story of Michael the local universe sovereign prince as he bestowed [personified] in the flesh in the form of Jesus the son of man and a whole host of topics regarding the spiritual mechanics of existence. Its an interesting read. Peace.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Sept 22, 2004 18:03:14 GMT -5
The author was never revealed. The papers were supposedely transmitted and materialized by super-mortals. However there was a contactee who transmitted some of the ideas. There is a controversy surrounding all that 'cause back in the 90s there was a law suit over copy rights. The foundation sued a person who made e-folios of the urantia papers. The court then forced the foundation to cough up the name of the "contactee" which the court pretty much felt could be construed as the AUTHOR of the papers. According to the urantia papers the super-mortals didnt want a human author so as to prevent the deifying of a person.
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Post by gamaliel on Sept 25, 2004 2:37:46 GMT -5
No one answered this question...what is Jesus saving us from?
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