WAS JESUS A JEW?? LET US HAVE YOUR INPUT.

[GTOM]

Jesus Never Existed...Hes a character created from an ancient story. a story of salavation...The same story was also stolen to create the Moses story... As for what the original story was? It was the Parabel of Heru ( because Heru never existed either )

[kAHANyAH]

Maybe JESUS is a history FOWARD IN TIME. Meaning it happened in the FUTURE perhaps ?

[1dell]

I pretty much agree with this article save the part where is says that Mary was of the tribe of Ihuda. I disagree with that. Mary was a Levite as we can see in scripture Lukas 1:36 "NOw indeed Elitz'bet YOUR RELATIVE has also conceived a son in her old age....."

Elitz'bet/Elizabeth was a Levite. We know this because her husband Z'kharIHawa was a Priest of the Abiyah division. Lukas 1:5. As a priest there were only allowed to marry a Levite woman who was a virgin. Now if they are both levites then Mary being related to Eliz'bet would mean she (mary) too was a levite.

Thats my only discerpency with this discorse.

courtney said:

i found this on the net- tell me what you think:

Jesus was Born a Jew


Jesus is a real, historical person, born in the Land of Israel, during the Roman occupation, in approximately the year 3 BCE. However, at the time His name was actually pronounced, "Yeshua," and that is the name used in this article.

That Yeshua was born Jewish is one of the least contested truths of the Bible. The very first verse of the New Covenant reads: The book of the genealogy of Messiah Yeshua ("Jesus Christ"), the son of David, the son of Abraham (Matt. 1:1). Who were Abraham and David?

Abraham was the first Hebrew. God changed his name from Abram (Gen. 17:5). In Gen. 14:13 he is called Abram the Hebrew. So we can see that Yeshua (Jesus) is descended from "Abram the Hebrew." Even to this day, Jews are also called "Hebrews", and the language of the Jews is "Hebrew."

Abraham and his descendants were given the unconditional covenant of the Promised Land (Gen. 17:8) and the covenant of circumcision (Gen. 17:10). Abraham is the father of the Jews (Acts 3:12-25). Isaac was his son and Jacob was his grandson (Matt. 1:2). Thus, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are known as the Patriarchs, the fathers of the Jews.

Jacob's name was changed by God to "Israel" (Gen. 35:10-12) and he had twelve sons (Gen. 35:23-26) from whom come the Twelve Tribes of Israel. All of their descendants are known collectively throughout the Bible as the Children of Israel (Ex. 1:6-7).

One of those twelve sons was Judah (Gen. 35:23, Matt. 1:2) and it is from his name that we get the word 'Jew'. Although Yehudah (Judah) was only one of the twelve, by 700 BCE, because of the course of Israel's history, the word Yehudee (Jew) came to mean any person descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Jer. 34:9). So, for instance, Saul haShaliach (the Apostle Paul) was of the tribe of Benjamin (Romans 11:1) yet he self-identified as a Jew (Acts 22:3).

Nevertheless, according to the Bible, the Messiah must be descended from the tribe of Judah (Gen. 49:10) as King David was (1Sam. 17:12, 1Ch. 28:4) and descended from King David himself (2Sam. 7:12-13, Isa. 9:6-7, Jer. 23:5-6). That is why the Messiah is called Son of David (Matt. 21:9).

Yeshua (Jesus) is from the Tribe of Judah (Heb. 7:14). His earthly father was descended from David (Matt. 1:6-16) and His mother was as well (Luke 1:27, 32-34, 3:23-31).

In addition, Yeshua was born King of the Jews (Matt. 2:2). The King of the Jews must Himself be Jewish (Deut. 17:15). His aunt Elizabeth was Jewish (a descendant of Aaron, Moses' brother) and His uncle Zacharia was a Jewish priest (Luke 1:5, 36). Yeshua was circumcised according to Jewish law (Luke 2:21, Lev. 12:2-3), and redeemed according to Jewish law (Luke 2:22-23, Num. 18:15). His mother atoned according to Jewish law (Luke 2:24, Lev. 12:6-8). He is called The Consolation of Israel (Luke 2:25) and The Glory of Thy People Israel (Luke 2:32). Jesus was born a Jew.

[kAHANyAH]

U know 1dell we could conclude the parentage of Jesus allowed him both the priesthood and monarchy. His mother's blood [levi] allowed him access to the priesthood while his father's blood [juda] line allowed him the ascent to the throne of david. In jewish law the birthrite is traced on the father's while the ethnic type on the mother ( i may have it backward but you get my drift).

If jesus could claim either priesthood or kingship which one did he really come to establish. Hmmmmm...

1dell said:

I pretty much agree with this article save the part where is says that Mary was of the tribe of Ihuda. I disagree with that. Mary was a Levite as we can see in scripture Lukas 1:36 "NOw indeed Elitz'bet YOUR RELATIVE has also conceived a son in her old age....."

Elitz'bet/Elizabeth was a Levite. We know this because her husband Z'kharIHawa was a Priest of the Abiyah division. Lukas 1:5. As a priest there were only allowed to marry a Levite woman who was a virgin. Now if they are both levites then Mary being related to Eliz'bet would mean she (mary) too was a levite.

Thats my only discerpency with this discorse.

[1dell]

Exactly Kah, Then that would put his kingship in question if Yosef wasn't really his father. uh oh. Let me leave the controversy alone

kAH said:

U know 1dell we could conclude the parentage of Jesus allowed him both the priesthood and monarchy. His mother's blood [levi] allowed him access to the priesthood while his father's blood [juda] line allowed him the ascent to the throne of david. In jewish law the birthrite is traced on the father's while the ethnic type on the mother ( i may have it backward but you get my drift).

If jesus could claim either priesthood or kingship which one did he really come to establish. Hmmmmm...

[1dell]

Yeah yeah whatever GTO you can't prove that he didn't exist. And quite frankly I am getting tired of hearing about it. Believe what you want to believe and I'll do the same

GTO said:

Jesus Never Existed...Hes a character created from an ancient story. a story of salavation...The same story was also stolen to create the Moses story... As for what the original story was? It was the Parabel of Heru ( because Heru never existed either )

[1dell]

It's a dayum shame that ancient historians write about the man, his own trained prophets went around the word prosletyzing in the man's name, many of whom died horrible deaths for a man who didn't exist. THATS BULL! A man who countless books have been written about. And All someone has got to do is come in here and say he never existed and that makes it so?

Where the HELL is the proof that he didn't? I am sick of this! NO one lick of proof has been presented! all we ever get is "it's a story that has been borrowed, yada yada yada"! That aint no moor proof than my 6 kids are proof that I am gay! PREPOSTUROUS!!!

What is proof to you people? WHAT? If we gave you a grave and a body you would swear that it was someone else's body and not his. YOu would then be demanding DNA tests and thangs. I swear I am trying hard not to cuss in this forum. But whenever some white man dig up some dayum grave in egypt and presents a mummy and say it's tutankhamen yall like SEE SEE he did exist!!! PLEASE!

What is proof if documents aint proof? what is proof if testimonies ain't proof. A judge takes the word of a witnesses as proof and men's are held or let go on words alone. This is truly sickening.

I guess if you get rid of jesus then there is none who hold you accountable for your sins. How FLUCKING convenient!

GTO said:

Jesus Never Existed...Hes a character created from an ancient story. a story of salavation...The same story was also stolen to create the Moses story... As for what the original story was? It was the Parabel of Heru ( because Heru never existed either )

[1dell]

It's funny the Merovingi blood line swears they are offsrping of Jesus and Mary Magdelene, but I guess they dont exist since Jesus don't exist, They must have pretended to be in existance.

GTO said:

Jesus Never Existed...Hes a character created from an ancient story. a story of salavation...The same story was also stolen to create the Moses story... As for what the original story was? It was the Parabel of Heru ( because Heru never existed either )

[1dell]

Or maybe these enemies of the cross need to find another dayum hobby until they bring some dayum facts!!! Because they are all starting to sound like broken asp records! "jesus didn't exist, it's just a story that was stolen out of egypt"

kAH said:

Maybe JESUS is a history FOWARD IN TIME. Meaning it happened in the FUTURE perhaps ?

[1dell]

As far as the Parable of Heru, there is no such text to be found. Do a search on the 2 best search engines Google and Altavista. You'z getz zilch! Hell I just did a search on Dogpile that search more than 6 search engines at once and that even returned no results. even the parable of Horus yeilded no return. What a waste of time, but if anyone is willing to waste it it's me

GTO said:

Jesus Never Existed...Hes a character created from an ancient story. a story of salavation...The same story was also stolen to create the Moses story... As for what the original story was? It was the Parabel of Heru ( because Heru never existed either )

[GTOM]

Oh Please... Mary Magdaline Of All Places goes to FRANCE and starts a FAM and Becomes Kings and Stuff?

Didnt Dr York make up a lie like this claiming to be from some Holy Family///

[1dell]

I'ont even know bro, I was just making a point, because I'ont even believe that Jesus Married Mary M. Dats that bull jank. But the Merovingi annem had said dat they were direct descendents yada yada. But I figure like this, if they are the gatekeepers of the knowledge, if they own all the keys that open doors and thangs, I can't see them claiming some fictional creature as their parentage.

Go figure, whoever though there would be soul food restaurants in america, 1000 years ago.

GTO said:

Oh Please... Mary Magdaline Of All Places goes to FRANCE and starts a FAM and Becomes Kings and Stuff?

Didnt Dr York make up a lie like this claiming to be from some Holy Family///