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Post by Ralph on Sept 22, 2004 14:03:16 GMT -5
Sister, When you speak/write of the Raatib it's obvious as in your other posts upon other topics such as Nibiru, you are commenting without having fully studied and overstanding (supreme knowledge) the subject at hand. I have explained as much as I could without the reader having to have any prior knowledge of the Raatib. And yet your comments indicate that either you did not read what I wrote, or you didn't overstand it. The lineage of Muhaamad has been claimed by other Men besides Divan. However, Divan is only one of 4 other Men who state they hold the original text of the Raatib. This narrows the playing field down a bit don't you think Brownbonnet? If you feel as though Divan is not the descendant of Muhammad then present your evidence just as the High Priest did against Yvsvh. Matthew 26: 59 Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the council, sought false witness against Jesus, to put him to death;
60 But found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses,
61 And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.
62 And the high priest arose, and said unto him, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee?
63 But Jesus held his peace, And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
65 Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy.Barry, Why would a decendant of Muhhamed, be born out of wedlock outside of Boston?? |
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Post by GTOM on Sept 22, 2004 22:43:26 GMT -5
It is a known and established fact that The Briitish fought Mahdi's in Sudan during and after Muhammad's legacy. This in itself should establish the fact that the orginal Muhammad was Sudanese as were his descendants, and not Arabic/Persian as some would like to think. Divan's ancestory is from Sudan and he is directly related to Al Mahdi, author of the widely accepted holy book known as the Raatib. Divan has in his pocession the original papyrus written in Arabic which was handed down from generation-to-generation. LOL.. BARRY. Please stop it. Where did you get your info that THE ORIGNAL MUHAMMAD was SUDANESE? The ORIGINAL MUHAMMAD was born in ARABIA IDIOT. Also "DIVAN" already CONTRADICTED HIMSELF about WHO his DADDY is and where his DADDY comes from. Who is DAVID P YORK? Also have you ever met YORKS Mother? She lives in NJ also... Go ask her about YORKS FATHER... hustling runs in the family dude. |
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Post by Brownbonnet on Sept 23, 2004 9:48:00 GMT -5
Nuwaubian Hotep---
I actually have read and studied the doctrine. I have also been to some many classes of the official nuwaubians, not the bootleg jackleg nuwaubians that half hate your master york. I make it a habit to find out about something fully before i question it. You know what? when i first heard of the Nuwaubians, (they werent called that then) but when i heard of them, i thought that maybe this york fella might had something i need to build on. So, i procured "Who is God?", "I don't Claim to be...", "Rebuttal", and several other titles. then, the info within these scrolls seemed very curious to me, because I had learned those same things many years previously by my own spiritual guides and ministers, et al. None of it was new, that's what i am saying. So, I agreed with some of what york was saying in his books, but it was stuff i had already learned. My own experience with spiritual matters is very complex, and the road has been very, very long. But anyway i got some more of york's books, and to tell you the truth, I still didn't bash him or call his group a cult at that time. You know what I thought of them? Honestly, I just thought: "Hey, this is a group, they have the right (and still do) to worship as they please, or to live as they please." So, i had nothing negative to say about york. Or the group. Not until i decided to attend some classes. Mind you, I was still completely gnostic and considered myself "deep" lol. I "schooled" myself with instruction from the following communities: Nation of Islam (I was a member, now an "x" but i still associate because they taught me something), and the Nation of Gods and Earths, and many others.
I feel the way i do about the nuwaubians only because of how they act when i have gone to their meetings, and how so many have acted when i met them, no matter how they get approached, or what state they were in. And then, and only then, I looked at the case against york. I didn't judge you all about his case; that is HIS case alone--- all of you nuwaubians aren't doing pedophilia things. I just go off of what I have actually seen.....
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Post by nuwaubianhotep on Sept 23, 2004 13:33:14 GMT -5
I'm not understanding (foundational knowledge) what your declaration Brownbonnet has to do with his thread, however if I were to comment on it I'd say titles and organizations are secondary to Wathu' (science). This should be your premise in your discovery of self. In addition, given the sheer size of the spectrum of Nuwaubu, most Nuwaubians do not fully overstand (myself included) it completely, and it is a work in progess, just as all true science is. Remember Senat (Sister) that no one regardless of affliation is alike, and Nuwaubians are not a like mind. Nuwaubu is a work in progress based in fact, this is why we went through many schools of learning, each school lead to another, so forth, and so on. Free yourself from judging all Nuwaubians as being the same and concentrate on the science and nothing more. From 'The Renewal of the Lessons" Zig Zag Zig (Wake Up!)' Scroll #166. Authored Dr. Malachi Z. York "The Newest Nuwaubic Symbol symbolizes the teeth of the Noble African Lion who roams the jungle of the Mother Africa as the king proudly donning his crown, this symbol representsthe power of the Lion which is the King and is symbolic of the wearing if the Nemaz of the Ancient Khamite as seen in the symbol of the Sphinx the combination of the Pharaoh and the Lion. The reversed Crescent also symbolizes the setting Moon or the end of the moon cycle of old religion
- Mosesism
- Christism
- Muhammadism
The Star Symbolizes the rising Sun which is the beginning of the Sun Cycle and the newface.
- Egiptian
- Sumerian
- Nuwaubian
The Anhk is the Key that is going to open the door to all right knowledge, Right Wisdom and Right Overstanding."Nuwaubian Hotep--- I actually have read and studied the doctrine. I have also been to some many classes of the official nuwaubians, not the bootleg jackleg nuwaubians that half hate your master york. I make it a habit to find out about something fully before i question it. You know what? when i first heard of the Nuwaubians, (they werent called that then) but when i heard of them, i thought that maybe this york fella might had something i need to build on. So, i procured "Who is God?", "I don't Claim to be...", "Rebuttal", and several other titles. then, the info within these scrolls seemed very curious to me, because I had learned those same things many years previously by my own spiritual guides and ministers, et al. None of it was new, that's what i am saying. So, I agreed with some of what york was saying in his books, but it was stuff i had already learned. My own experience with spiritual matters is very complex, and the road has been very, very long. But anyway i got some more of york's books, and to tell you the truth, I still didn't bash him or call his group a cult at that time. You know what I thought of them? Honestly, I just thought: "Hey, this is a group, they have the right (and still do) to worship as they please, or to live as they please." So, i had nothing negative to say about york. Or the group. Not until i decided to attend some classes. Mind you, I was still completely gnostic and considered myself "deep" lol. I "schooled" myself with instruction from the following communities: Nation of Islam (I was a member, now an "x" but i still associate because they taught me something), and the Nation of Gods and Earths, and many others. I feel the way i do about the nuwaubians only because of how they act when i have gone to their meetings, and how so many have acted when i met them, no matter how they get approached, or what state they were in. And then, and only then, I looked at the case against york. I didn't judge you all about his case; that is HIS case alone--- all of you nuwaubians aren't doing pedophilia things. I just go off of what I have actually seen..... |
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Post by nuwaubianhotep on Sept 23, 2004 13:50:59 GMT -5
...THE ORIGNAL MUHAMMAD was SUDANESE? The ORIGINAL MUHAMMAD was born in ARABIA.... Ok, if Muhammad is from and lived in Arabia why did the British Army fight him and his descandants in Sudan? Refer to the link I posted a few posts up Luk |
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Post by Ralph on Sept 23, 2004 14:02:10 GMT -5
Ok, if Muhammad is from and lived in Arabia why did the British Army fight him and his descandants in Sudan? Refer to the link I posted a few posts up Luk Barry, What year did the Brits fight Muhammed? |
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Post by nuwaubianhotep on Sept 23, 2004 15:29:22 GMT -5
Barry, What year did the Brits fight Muhammed? Stop baiting me.. What I meant was that the descendants of Muhammad fought the British Army in Sudan as the movie the Four Feahters indicates in their docudrama. |
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Post by Ralph on Sept 23, 2004 16:16:29 GMT -5
Stop baiting me.. What I meant was that the descendants of Muhammad fought the British Army in Sudan as the movie the Four Feahters indicates in their docudrama. Barry, Baiting you??? This is your statement: " Ok, if Muhammad is from and lived in Arabia why did the British Army fight him and his descandants in Sudan?
" So did the British fight Muhammed? Your mistake Mr. Factologist. By the way, what are you holding on your pinky? A boogah??? ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by nuwaubianhotep on Sept 23, 2004 19:44:45 GMT -5
Ralph, You've lost the debate of the irregularity of your lodge so now all you have left is petty insults and fishing for errors on other subjects. I've already corrected my statement: What I meant was that the descendants of Muhammad fought the British Army in Sudan as the movie The Four Feahters indicates in their docudrama. And while we're at it... Who deleted my guestbook signing on the Xlax-is site, where I revealed that Prince Hall Masons want nothing to do with you losers?   You are nothing Ralph but another person who came around Nuwaubians with the purpose to taunt and insult and got insulted. Nuwaubians are not stupid Luk. |
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Post by ELTRUTH on Sept 24, 2004 8:48:09 GMT -5
what does proving the linage of the mahdi have to do with PROVING that YORK the PORK  is related? ? and dont bring up the point of one of the REAL ansaars visiting brooklyn as proof either. becasue if u really REALLY was brought up a muslim or ansaar u know that it is always taught to take the side of a fellow muslim before a 'kafiruwn' even if u know the other muslim is NOT right!. PLUS he was bring over alot of moracan and egyptian teachers and paying them $$$$$.its not like they taught for his for free- if he was soo royal. he paid them well, set them up in free apartments, even married of some of the 'special' mu'minaati to them. like his daughter fatima- who he let marry a teacher only to 'find out' that he just needed his papers he had a wife AND family back home. they just sopported him becasue he was spending money on their lowlife who became teachers- funny how the arabic classes never passed third grade? hmmmm...  and they supported the fact that he looked like he had a big following which- in the muslim era he did. doc used t say all the time there was a groupof little aliens in his house upstate that was upset becsue he was no longer muslim so they would do stuff like trip him and hide his things- i guess he should have listened to them. as for nuwaubians not being stupid- yet they are STILL collecting money for a man that is SENTENCED and DENIED appeal. and they collected money for habiba even AFTER they knew for OVER a MONTH - that she was NOT representing york. |
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Post by nuwaubianhotep on Sept 24, 2004 9:06:12 GMT -5
your email is Amina York @ El Truth?
Any relation to Dr. York?
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Post by Ralph on Sept 24, 2004 19:55:22 GMT -5
Ralph, You've lost the debate of the irregularity of your lodge so now all you have left is petty insults and fishing for errors on other subjects. I've already corrected my statement: What I meant was that the descendants of Muhammad fought the British Army in Sudan as the movie The Four Feahters indicates in their docudrama. And while we're at it... Who deleted my guestbook signing on the Xlax-is site, where I revealed that Prince Hall Masons want nothing to do with you losers? You are nothing Ralph but another person who came around Nuwaubians with the purpose to taunt and insult and got insulted. Nuwaubians are not stupid Luk. Barry, I am not aware that your post was deleted, but I am aware that you stated that I was involved with criminal activity. To that everyone rolled on that one. YOu proved that African lodge was iregular? By whose standards? By the standards of today? or by the standard that everyone was using back during those times?? I never stated that Nuwaubians were stupid, but I do recall on one occasion you made a statement that they are stupid. Remember that?  |
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Post by nuwaubianhotep on Sept 25, 2004 10:53:01 GMT -5
Barry, I am not aware that your post was deleted, but I am aware that you stated that I was involved with criminal activity. To that everyone rolled on that one. YOu proved that African lodge was iregular? By whose standards? By the standards of today? or by the standard that everyone was using back during those times?? I never stated that Nuwaubians were stupid, but I do recall on one occasion you made a statement that they are stupid. Remember that? Ok, what does this have to do with this thread? You could have addressed this in a personal PM @ McNeal. I am not that bad of a person Luk, I might have even responded. :-) To answer, I haven't a clue as to what you're talking about. And my statement about Nuwaubians stands. Although, I don't particuarly remember phrasing it quite like that. It's funny how you McNeal start every post directed to me by typing "Barry" as if to taunt my use of Nuwaubic, but when you called my recording studio you lefted a message calling me " Nuwaubian Hotep[/b]" in that rhaspy voice of yours. Are you Ralph attemping to taunt me by using my given Eurocentric name? Every one here is aware of your petty agenda and small minded taunts. I'm just wondering, not that it really matters. Please if you could Ralph respond to this post in pm or on a another thread. This thread is about the historic lineage of Maku. I don't want to clutter it with chidish drama. |
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Post by Master-9 on Sept 25, 2004 13:11:19 GMT -5
You guys can respectfuly move those questions to the Nuwaupia Forum where I believe a thread has already started with the same subjects.  Master-9 |
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Post by GTOM on Sept 25, 2004 19:52:20 GMT -5
Ok, if Muhammad is from and lived in Arabia why did the British Army fight him and his descandants in Sudan? Refer to the link I posted a few posts up Luk LOL..you fool. The ORIGINAL MUHAMMAD was the PROPHET MUHAMMAD. your talking about MUHAMMAD AHMED AL MAHDI. There are also a LOT OF PEOPLE who claim to be DECENDENTS of THE PEOPHET MUHAMMAD.. I mean he only had 1 KID 2 GRAND CHILDREN who had a NUMBER OF KIDS.... |
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