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Post by SUDAN on May 30, 2004 9:21:25 GMT -5
From my findings I am aware that Mr. York during his recent trial did not take the stand on his own behalf for self defense. Is there any reason why he felt this un-necesary. I also remember reading that Max Wood the prosecuting attorney called Mr. York a "coward" for not testifying. Did Mr. York have a good reason for remaining silent?
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Post by Master-9 on May 30, 2004 9:33:40 GMT -5
Do you believe he was a coward for not testifing in that Kangaroo court?
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Post by SUDAN on May 30, 2004 9:51:13 GMT -5
I am of the thought that cowardice is not the issue that was Mr. Wood's position. The issue was life in prison and Mr. York who has the "gift of gab" most likely would not have hurt himself by testifying in light of the fact he received albeit excessive 135 years (my view). However, if Mr. York was planning an appeal and felt he had no chance in trial then it would be wise to stay "mum".Mr. York during sentencing spoke out... my curiosity is bequeathed by the timing of his words. Specifically Master 9 the "coward" comment spoke to Mr. Wood's disdain for Mr. York.
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Post by Ralph on May 30, 2004 9:56:39 GMT -5
He had the gift of gab for over thirty years. If my life depended on it, and I knew I was not guilty of ANYTHING, then I would have taken the stand and testify on my behalf. Who is the better witness than yourself??? Carter, regardless of what went on in the court, ifyou were on trial, what would you do??
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Post by Master-9 on May 30, 2004 10:34:11 GMT -5
He had the gift of gab for over thirty years. If my life depended on it, and I knew I was not guilty of ANYTHING, then I would have taken the stand and testify on my behalf. Who is the better witness than yourself??? Carter, regardless of what went on in the court, ifyou were on trial, what would you do?? My dear Ralph, Dr. York is a Master Chess player, watch and learn
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Post by Ralph on May 30, 2004 10:56:05 GMT -5
My dear Ralph, Dr. York is a Master Chess player, watch and learn So far his game has been Checkmated............
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Post by Master-9 on May 30, 2004 11:00:08 GMT -5
So far his game has been Checkmated............ Just Watch
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Post by SatiyaH on May 30, 2004 12:25:14 GMT -5
Because there is no person stepping up claiming to have written this Tribal News: Who the Heck is Dwight York? I could just as well take it as though York himself has written it. Since it is featured on the www.unnm.com website. Since York is obviously trying to hide his true identity again, what makes us believe that even if he took that stand in Brunswick court he would even tell the truth? How creditable is his testimony? Obviously from his admittance in the Rebuttal to Ansar Cult book of being Dwight York and never hiding it. Why now, does he blantantly lie that it was the State of Massachettes who given him that name 'on his birth certificate.' (Refer to Lawsuit filed under Chief Black Thunderbird Eagle against the people). The only resolve is that York attempted to use some loophole called 'misnomer' to get out of his sentence for crimes he admitted and was convicted of.
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Post by Master-9 on May 30, 2004 16:54:34 GMT -5
The only resolve is that York attempted to use some loophole called 'misnomer' to get out of his sentence for crimes he admitted and was convicted of. He did recieve a illegal conviction, but he never willingly admit to anything, you are trying to uphold a Bogus Plea Bargin which he was under duress... My point is what your personnal interrest? I don't see Ralph posting a responce about ever topic that is connected to NOI? If I was done with a organization, culture, science, religion, cult, occult, I would never mention their name again, I wouldn't disput it, condem it, or pay attention to it, I WOULD MOVE ON WITH MY LIFE!
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Post by Ralph on May 30, 2004 18:37:54 GMT -5
He did recieve a illegal conviction, but he never willingly admit to anything, you are trying to uphold a Bogus Plea Bargin which he was under duress... My point is what your personnal interrest? I don't see Ralph posting a responce about ever topic that is connected to NOI? If I was done with a organization, culture, science, religion, cult, occult, I would never mention their name again, I wouldn't disput it, condem it, or pay attention to it, I WOULD MOVE ON WITH MY LIFE! Now York had his chance to prove his worth in fron of many Euros that day. He looked liked a slave, with his hat in hand. Yes suh! No suh! I guess you did not read my link to the NOI when it was discussed did you? My position today is that I warn everybody about self made prophets. I tell all who have made contact with me(even you) to keep that money in your pocket for your family. look in the archives, there you will see my post....
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Post by SatiyaH on May 30, 2004 19:06:01 GMT -5
He did recieve a illegal conviction, but he never willingly admit to anything, you are trying to uphold a Bogus Plea Bargin which he was under duress... My point is what your personnal interrest? I don't see Ralph posting a responce about ever topic that is connected to NOI? If I was done with a organization, culture, science, religion, cult, occult, I would never mention their name again, I wouldn't disput it, condem it, or pay attention to it, I WOULD MOVE ON WITH MY LIFE! When you first joined as an Ansaar, did you ever debate a Christian? You joined an Islaamic group-leaving Christianity behind, but did you ever debate a Christian? Did you ever use 360 questions to ask a Christian against a Christian? York had no business butting into other groups, but he did. He did so to offer a choice to what they were being taught. I am offering a choice. I am only posting here on Illuminopolis--I am offering those who come here a choice contrary to what you are offering. You post "Who the Heck is Dwight York?" and pretend that was never a name he used--then I show you documents showing otherwise, and you even bring in a book written by him acknowledging Dwight D. York as "one" of his names. You say you would just move on. In my life, I have very much moved on and ahead...however, I do feel that when the oppurtunity arises to be responsible and to seek the truth rather than sit and watch as people try to "pull the wool" over other's eyes then I find it to be my duty to do such! The beginning of wisdom is found in doubting; by doubting we come to the question, and by seeking we may come upon the truth. When York says "All I came to do is set the whole record straight" you applaud, when I do it you get upset. If what I was saying didn't strike a nerve in you, you would not even bother addressing me--yet it does. The truth is bitter to the taste. If I'm slandering, then come with the truth. Truth is generally the best vindication against slander. Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true.
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Post by Master-9 on May 30, 2004 19:40:55 GMT -5
Yada yada yada, we going in circles, any more questions from the ansar cult book would be more productive
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Post by Ralph on May 30, 2004 20:11:32 GMT -5
Yada yada yada, we going in circles, any more questions from the ansar cult book would be more productive Carter, Part of being on this board and participating is to learn. By those who are part of your group showing you their findings, you seem to put it to the side. I am an outsider to a point. But I am smart enough to follow-up behind your statements and those who contridict your statements. Tell me this, have you ever researched what York has stated and found it not true? If you did, are you just blowing it off? Like the masonic issue. I have proven beyond a doubt that York did not get his degrees from a masonic lodge in Cairo, yet you do not believe it. Learn and study from it my brother. I have back in the 70s...
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Post by Master-9 on May 30, 2004 20:43:25 GMT -5
Like the masonic issue. I have proven beyond a doubt that York did not get his degrees from a masonic lodge in Cairo, yet you do not believe it. Learn and study from it my brother. I have back in the 70s... My brother, I have met many arab brothers who are members of the Arab Shrine, I have seen the charters with my own eyes, The freemasonry you follow is a sham, created by euro(Caucasion)-masons who don't have any of the secrets. I'm not saying the blue house doesn't have any good in it, All I'm saying you don't have a clue to what York is linking to, so you speculate... We can go back and forth with all these issues, but we will still be at the same spot within the circle.... I have already inform you that I won't be addressing certain issues, which I haven't. I just cut and paste from our tribal spokesmen. If their answer doesn't satisfy your thirst, e-mail them directly. I did open myself up to The Ansaar cult book, so come with your questions Dennard Turner with Master-9 at "Real Deal Productions, Inc." former studio
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Post by SUDAN on May 31, 2004 14:28:09 GMT -5
Mr. Ralph...Are you speaking/posting on Mr. York's guilty plea prior to trial? Have you viewed the video of Mr. York's confession? Now York had his chance to prove his worth in fron of many Euros that day. He looked liked a slave, with his hat in hand. Yes suh! No suh! I guess you did not read my link to the NOI when it was discussed did you? My position today is that I warn everybody about self made prophets. I tell all who have made contact with me(even you) to keep that money in your pocket for your family. look in the archives, there you will see my post....
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