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Post by GTOM on May 17, 2004 7:30:12 GMT -5
This is a patch from the Gangster Disciples, a Gang in Chicago. Does this emblem look firmiliar?
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Post by DenhamEL on May 17, 2004 10:00:33 GMT -5
Peace! GTO Yup, it looks like the "The Crown" of those who will endure with the "lamb"! But we know that Larry Hoover-El and the BGD who are known also as "Growth and Development" have been utilizing these symbols since the 60's! Denham-El quote author=GTO MESSIAH link=board=york&thread=1084797012&start=0#0 date=1084797012]This is a patch from the Gangster Disciples, a Gang in Chicago. Does this emblem look firmiliar? [/quote]
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Post by shamgod777 on May 17, 2004 10:48:50 GMT -5
Peace-Brotherman. I seen that you referred to Larry Hoover as "Larry Hoover-El" Question: I have never seen in any records that he was a Moor/or part of the Moorish Science Temple of America. Do you have any proof of this Bro. Thank You-
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Post by DenhamEL on May 17, 2004 11:39:47 GMT -5
Islamism Brotherman! I was given this info by family members from Chicago! It was told to me that Larry Hoover proclaimed his nationality inside the prison system, after having some type of "dealings" with some brothers who were representing Chief Imam Kaaba (Jeff Fort) Stone Nation/ElRukn! I took the info to heart as my cousin was just coming home from the justice in Cook County! Peace and Love Brother! Denham-El Peace-Brotherman. I seen that you referred to Larry Hoover as "Larry Hoover-El" Question: I have never seen in any records that he was a Moor/or part of the Moorish Science Temple of America. Do you have any proof of this Bro. Thank You-
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Post by DenhamEL on May 17, 2004 11:42:05 GMT -5
Peace Brotherman ShamGod! I have also ran into a few GD's who are claiming Islam and are claiming that they are as they say "Mo's"! Peace and Love! Denham-El Islamism Brotherman! I was given this info by family members from Chicago! It was told to me that Larry Hoover proclaimed his nationality inside the prison system, after having some type of "dealings" with some brothers who were representing Chief Imam Kaaba (Jeff Fort) Stone Nation/ElRukn! I took the info to heart as my cousin was just coming home from the justice in Cook County! Peace and Love Brother! Denham-El
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Post by shamgod777 on May 17, 2004 14:13:18 GMT -5
Peace- Well Goodbrother, I can't see that Larry Hoover who rode for the "6" has claimed Islam under the Moorish Science Temple. And is this Brother still Alive. I'm just saying I need some more proof of this Info-I'll make some calls.
Peace
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Post by DenhamEL on May 17, 2004 15:03:22 GMT -5
Peace Brotherman ShamGod! I feel you bro! I was a bit taken by surprise, also but that is what is being said! I will also make more contact specifically to my good brother, who is one of Chief Malik's sons in Chicago! Peace and Love! Denham-El Peace- Well Goodbrother, I can't see that Larry Hoover who rode for the "6" has claimed Islam under the Moorish Science Temple. And is this Brother still Alive. I'm just saying I need some more proof of this Info-I'll make some calls. Peace
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Post by DREAllah on May 17, 2004 17:59:54 GMT -5
GD Folx as Moorish Scientists? That would mean they are on the "5" instead of the "6". I wonder if these people even no the "free"masonic history of the GD Folx. Isn't it common knowlege that the Vice Lords /El Rukn's / Blackstones Bloods, are on the 5 "love truth peace freedom justice" Moorish Scientist stuff? And The GD Folx / Crips are on the "free"masonic blue lodge 6 point star of david square and compass stuff. Peace Brotherman ShamGod! I have also ran into a few GD's who are claiming Islam and are claiming that they are as they say "Mo's"! Peace and Love! Denham-El
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Post by Master-9 on May 17, 2004 18:45:16 GMT -5
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Post by DenhamEL on May 18, 2004 7:35:31 GMT -5
Peace! You are correct Allah! Folks ride "6" all day long! But King Hoover has been locked up for many, many years now! It is said that he was put in a "situation" and has now proclaimed his nationality. This does not mean, that every G.D. has done the same! We also know that G.D.'s have made some changes through Gator Bradley and the 21st Century Vote, which G.D.'s (Growth&Development) which they are using now, matriculating themselves into the political arena! I have met some G.D.'s who proclaim Islam, not every one claimed to be a Moor! But a few did claim they was Mo's from birth before the gang banging either a family member was apart of the Movement back in the day! Peace! Denham-El quote author=DREAllah link=board=york&thread=1084797012&start=7#0 date=1084834794] GD Folx as Moorish Scientists? That would mean they are on the "5" instead of the "6". I wonder if these people even no the "free"masonic history of the GD Folx. Isn't it common knowlege that the Vice Lords /El Rukn's / Blackstones Bloods, are on the 5 "love truth peace freedom justice" Moorish Scientist stuff? And The GD Folx / Crips are on the "free"masonic blue lodge 6 point star of david square and compass stuff. [/quote]
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Post by kgod999 on May 23, 2004 16:45:49 GMT -5
oh yes, i first heard of Larry Hoover when i purchased a Ghetto Boys cd back around 1996 or 1997, entitled Resurrection. They had Hoover on there between songs giving dialogue and the brother impressed me with his growth on the real. He was speaking of how the government was being contradictive by saying that blacks are thugs, but with the power Hoover has, they were upset because he was telling the gangs to put the guns down and vote. I definitely would believe any hearsay about him converting to islam, moors,etc.
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Post by gamaliel on May 26, 2004 20:38:37 GMT -5
I live in the Chicago area and when there was a Chicago tab (Ansaarullah) here there was folks (GDs) and el-rukn coming to class, both claiming al-Islam. The GD was raised Muslim and joined the Ansaars because of the six-pointed star. The El Rukn joined to get his act together cause the El Rukn brothers he knew werent ready to be reformed like he was. He spent sum time in jail. I had also heard that Larry Hoover was studying Islam and Moorish Science. The 6 pointed star was adopted because one of their founders called himself King David. Anyone more familiar with GDs can back me upon this or correct me.
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Post by gamaliel on May 27, 2004 13:34:40 GMT -5
I have a small pamphlet put out by this church in Chicago called CRUSADERS MINISTRIES. It has a very similiar crown on the back cover. I'll have to look for it. Could this church have borrowed their symbol from the GDs like you said Dr. York did? It came out around 97.
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Post by gamaliel on May 28, 2004 11:43:36 GMT -5
the book is called HOW TO TAP INTO THE FAVOR OF GOD by John Eckhardt. Theres only a superficial likeness with the crown symbol.
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Post by RaShemBey on May 28, 2004 14:08:00 GMT -5
Islam,
I was taught by and Elder within the Moorish Movement, that both of these gangs came out of the Moorish Situation in Chicago when the Temple became divided in the Leadership. After 1933 the Streets of Chicago were divided up which in later years they came out with the armies on the street today known as the Gangs. One faction was given control over the SouthSide of Chicago One the North and the Other the West side. This was done as a means to stop the bloodshed that was going on due to the schism that had set in. This elder who told us these things was second in command behind Jeff Fort. It is warfare between Brothers, just as is going on over in the area of Palestine, between the 6 points and the 5 points, Israel and Ishmael. And for a long time in Chicago the fighting was just as fierce if not more then what is going on in Palestine. Some of what I said could be off a few degrees, anyone having filler, feel free.
Peace.
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