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Post by BalkisII on May 16, 2004 21:46:34 GMT -5
Balkis, I had passed judgment on the man [MZYork] once upon a time. My judgment was based on hear-say, rumors, slander, etc... . As it stands today, I was wrong for that. Thats all I am saying. It's ALL good Kah, we all do that from time to time. Facts STILL stand that some of us here KNOWS WHAT IS TRUE!!! To every one else, it is just "here-say"! |
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Post by Hathor on May 19, 2004 10:07:50 GMT -5
"Balkis, if you KNOW so much cause you were there, then you were ALSO IN ON WHAT YOU CLAIM THAT
YOU KNOW. Stop frontin like you are some innocent
bystander. Stop frontin period! You are a Traitor and
thats a FACT. You are only telling one side and that
side is YOUR SIDE. You're doing it because you are
a hurt female. A vicious female. A weak female. IF
any man had touched any of my children in that way,
Fuck the cop man!!! His fucking dick would be hanging
from a tree!!! Word! Period! Fuck waiting for so-called
justice from the bullcrap system!!! Fuck what you say
BalkisII, you're a lying female among a whole lot of
other Things that I could go into but will not! My children
weren't born on this earth to go through any shit as
you speak of and I'll say it again, if it would had happened, lo and behold, I WOULD HAVE TAKEN ALL
MATTERS INTO MY OWN TWO HANDS AND FUCK WHAT
ANYBODY HAS TO SAY AFTERWARDS!!!!
BalkisII, you're a straight up demon. Straight up!
Now, those are the Words of Today!!!"
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Post by Hathor on May 19, 2004 10:11:49 GMT -5
"Annnnnnnnnd, if the venom you are spitting is fact,
there is no way you would be on this board or any
other board day after day after day. No freakin way!
You must be straight out of your mind!
Something ain't right...Lo!... BalkisII, you're a demon
on a mission, however, it ain't gonna work!"
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Post by Master-9 on May 19, 2004 17:20:08 GMT -5
Peace sister Hathor,
We must pray for our sisters, not attack them, they are still our family.
The Beast will devour them after consuming us!!!!!
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Post by BalkisII on May 19, 2004 17:40:20 GMT -5
Peace sister Hathor, We must pray for our sisters, not attack them, they are still our family. The Beast will devour them after consuming us!!!!! Them? It is only me that is being attacked here, M-9. Who you need to pray for is the CHILDREN! THOSE ARE THE ONES WHO REALLY NEED THE HELP! If you notice some comments on this board do not get a time of day from me. I will address you though, since you are "family" here, and I feel you are sincere in YOUR BELIEF. |
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Post by Master-9 on May 19, 2004 19:06:01 GMT -5
\ Who you need to pray for is the CHILDREN! THOSE ARE THE ONES WHO REALLY NEED THE HELP! Its always been about the children, as warriors, we sometimes forget... But I pray for you also, The Beast assasinated my father, tried to kill me and my mother. They will never do anything in the best interrest of us!!! |
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Post by BalkisII on May 19, 2004 20:34:00 GMT -5
Its always been about the children, as warriors, we sometimes forget... But I pray for you also, The Beast assasinated my father, tried to kill me and my mother. They will never do anything in the best interrest of us!!! "I hate when adults take advantage of children...." |
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Post by Ralph on May 19, 2004 20:37:59 GMT -5
In the mail today, I just received Bilal Phillips book. Now after I read this, where can I get a copy of York's position about Phillips book? I am not trying to judge anybody, but I am truly being persuaded. Carter, Atune-Re, Tum Re, Hathor, one of you guide me. Kah! Do you have this book?  |
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Post by SatiyaH on May 19, 2004 22:07:09 GMT -5
Hathor your late in all this. So please hold back your 'venom'. This is a time for both parties involved to begin healing. There is nothing on here that justifies you calling someone a 'Traitor' or a 'Liar'. How you talk about walking with "The Lamb" and struggling in this mission, Balkis and Myself have already been there done that and got a t-shirt. Well you came late and only dream about doing what we've done. Exactly who are you, for you to step up and say what your saying with any authority? Please spare us the Anu, and ET stories.
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Post by kAHANyAH on May 20, 2004 3:59:00 GMT -5
sorry dude, never heard of the book. Dont even know who Bilal Philips is.  In the mail today, I just received Bilal Phillips book. Now after I read this, where can I get a copy of York's position about Phillips book? I am not trying to judge anybody, but I am truly being persuaded. Carter, Atune-Re, Tum Re, Hathor, one of you guide me. Kah! Do you have this book? |
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Post by SatiyaH on May 20, 2004 6:33:23 GMT -5
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Post by Ralph on May 20, 2004 8:00:59 GMT -5
sorry dude, never heard of the book. Dont even know who Bilal Philips is. Kah, I picked upped my copy for three bucks. Cracked the first page and major controversy. I now see why York left the Muslim thing and decided to do something else. Anybody else read the book? Comments? Kah, get a copy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Ralph on May 20, 2004 8:01:57 GMT -5
How can I get a copy of York's follow up?? |
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Post by Ralph on May 20, 2004 8:04:49 GMT -5
sorry dude, never heard of the book. Dont even know who Bilal Philips is. Reviews for Bilal Phillips book: “The author has carefully gathered an abundance of well organized, precisely analyzed and documented information on the cult from its books, newspapers, magazines and pamphlets, as well as from recorded interviews with former members, some of which have been included as an appendix. The literary style of the author, while being scientific and free from ubdue bias, is very flowing and attractive. This scholarly work has clearly exposed the pagan un-Islamic roots of the Ansaru Allah movement as well as its heretical claims with regard to God, the Shareeah (Divine Law), the Quran and its totally un-Islamic concepts of man. The book has also highlighted the false claims of the cult's founder to the effect that he is a descendant of the Sudanese Mahdi and his cult a branch of the latter's movement.”<br> Dr. Ahmad Muhammad Ahmad Jalli Assistant Professor of Islamic Theology Omdurman Islamic University, Sudan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “In accordance with the directions of the general director of Daarul-Ifta (The Presidency of Islamic Research, Ifta and Propagation), Shaykh 'Abdul-Azeez ibn Abdullah ibn Baaz, the Secretarial Committee of the standing council of major scholars is of the view that this book contains an accurate description of the Ansaru Allah Community Cult with regards the background of its founder, the basis and evolution of his claim's along with mentions of his doctrines with regard to Allah's attributes and laws of Islam on the basis of which Kufr (disbelief) of this group and its membership in the heretical Baatinite (esoteric) movement is evident.”<br> Abdullah ibn Ridn Al-Bidaah Director of the General Administration for Qurans and the Supervision of Publications Daarul-Ifta, Riyadh -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “It is my strong recommendation that this book be read by all concerned about the spread and establishment of Islam in the USA, Canada, Central and South America. The author provides the reader with not only the history and doctrines of a dangerous contemporary anti-Islamic cult operating in America, but he also provides a clear picture of Islamic awareness that the teachings of the Ansaru Allah cult are not in any way representative of the Islamic faith and efforts should be made to inform those unaware by those in a position to do so.”<br> Dr. Maneh Al-Johani Secretary General WAMY (World Assembly of Muslim Youth) |
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Post by shamgod777 on May 20, 2004 9:24:56 GMT -5
Peace, Brother Ralph. Yes MZYork responded to that book very annoyed. By late 80's York started to put out leaflets direspecting Sunni Islam. He put out video's talking about how Sunni Muslims were not practicing Islam according to Muhammad and the Prophets. Bilip Philips came out with his book and Dr. York Put out his Book Titled -: The Ansaars Cult- Rebuttle to the Slanders. He gave this book out Free for a week(ed) then his followers started to sell the Book for $20-25 dollars.(Pedlers)
Then York thought he was big time and Put out a telephone looking Book called 360 Questions to Ask a Sunni Muslim, a few years later. I thought that was Halarious. He Vowed to get back to those Sunni Muslims for talking about him. At this time York was nowhere to be found he was in his Compound in Monticelo NY(Upstate NY) then moving to the South. At this Time the Brothers(Gods) part of the Nation of Gods and Earths and the Sunni Muslims were not Messing/Vibing with the Ansaars. Those Ansaar brothers were scared. They hid certain books that they sold. For instance if you wanted a copy of the Book of the Five Percenters-they would reach in there bag-look around and sell it to you, on the sneak tip. They wouldn't leave it on there tables-for someone would of Snatched it off of the table.
Basically the Rebuttal to the Slanders book-was dissing ex-members that was interviewed by bilal phipips-saying they were junkies and they were non productive members in Yorks community. Where Bilial states that York made up his Mahdi lineage and provided facts that proved it as well.
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