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Post by SatiyaH on May 8, 2004 23:16:58 GMT -5
I have a serious question not pertaining to the Raid, but the ZED Festival that will be held this year on Tamare. How do you have a ZED Festival, that deals specifically with the Pharaoh, without the Pharaoh running an actual course to prove he/she is fit to rule? Also, why are you celebrating it in June thru July ,when the Zed Fest is marked by the helical rising of Sirius just before dawn, technically that's not until August nowadays?
"Four thousand years ago or so, ancient Egyptians celebrated the rebirth of the sun at this time of year. They set the length of the festival at 12 days, to reflect the 12 divisions in their sun calendar. They decorated with greenery, using palms with 12 shoots as a symbol of the completed year, since a palm was thought to put forth a shoot each month. In ancient Egypt there was the Dejed-piler resembling a stylized tree. The djed pillar (pronounced Zed) is a khemetic hieroglyphic symbol which stands for stability. It represents the backbone of Osiris which is the greek form of the khemetic Asir. The Djed was raised at various times, during the end of the A'aperti's reign & the coronation of a new one, and also during the winter solstice. The common people raised the djed pillar during times of failing crops to ensure fertility which has to do with Asir being a Netjer of resurrection. During the raising of the djed festival the A'aperti or the pharaoh would run a certain course to prove that he was still fit to rule. It was decorated with a Tet Knot (bow) and Dejeds (flanges) to represent the union of Isis and Osiris"
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Post by chephren on May 9, 2004 0:19:48 GMT -5
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Post by Master-9 on May 9, 2004 10:15:04 GMT -5
I have a serious question not pertaining to the Raid, but the ZED Festival that will be held this year on Tamare. How do you have a ZED Festival, that deals specifically with the Pharaoh, without the Pharaoh running an actual course to prove he/she is fit to rule? Also, why are you celebrating it in June thru July ,when the Zed Fest is marked by the helical rising of Sirius just before dawn, technically that's not until August nowadays" The answer is simple, we are not the egipt of the east, we are the Egipt of the West, we have different meanings than our brothers(friends) who we lend our lions paw to when the time arrises. To Nuwaupians, it is a Family Day to celebrate another year we have made in the world of the beast. And to remember & honor OUR SAVIOR, Dr. Malachi Z. York-EL whom praise is due forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by SatiyaH on May 9, 2004 11:05:10 GMT -5
Chephren, first website link, begins with the July 21, not March 18th as you stated. July 21 is close, but the marker for which this year Djed fest commences by the helical rising of Sirius followed by Orion. That my friend is within the first week of August this year. Second weblink you provided has numerous amount of adjustments to be made, for a percise correlation of the egyptian calender to our usage of georgian calender.
So Master9, what exactly is "ZED" (djed, tsed) about your FESTIVAL? From what I gather in your statement, there is absolutely no correlation between Egypt of the West to Ancient Egyptian practice of the Zed Fest. Years prior to calling the Zed Fest, Nuwaubians called this alloted time Saviors Day, notably borrowed from The Black Organization N.O.I. Within the late 90's it was actually called "Family Day", that spanned across several days. Given in consideration of your Nuwaupic Calender, this is actually not only your Family Day, but also a New Year, marked by June 26, is that not correct?
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Post by Master-9 on May 9, 2004 11:20:41 GMT -5
Chephren, first website link, begins with the July 21, not March 18th as you stated. July 21 is close, but the marker for which this year Djed fest commences by the helical rising of Sirius followed by Orion. That my friend is within the first week of August this year. Second weblink you provided has numerous amount of adjustments to be made, for a percise correlation of the egyptian calender to our usage of georgian calender. So Master9, what exactly is "ZED" (djed, tsed) about your FESTIVAL? From what I gather in your statement, there is absolutely no correlation between Egypt of the West to Ancient Egyptian practice of the Zed Fest. Years prior to calling the Zed Fest, Nuwaubians called this alloted time Saviors Day, notably borrowed from The Black Organization N.O.I. Within the late 90's it was actually called "Family Day", that spanned across several days. Given in consideration of your Nuwaupic Calender, this is actually not only your Family Day, but also a New Year, marked by June 26, is that not correct? That is correct, infact the Zjed Festival was only held once in ever 30 or 40 years in a A'afert's rule(not every year) according to our very own "Black Book" chp. 1. We have different names according to the organization, Order, or sect the Nuwaupian is coming(of hailing) from.
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Post by chephren on May 9, 2004 16:09:02 GMT -5
The 1st weblink has March 18th as the DJED festival. Scroll down to March 18th and one will see the reference. I was not pursuing precision just the multiple different dates in "so-called"use...Connecting back to the ANCIENT dates is very difficult my point of reference! Chephren, first website link, begins with the July 21, not March 18th as you stated. July 21 is close, but the marker for which this year Djed fest commences by the helical rising of Sirius followed by Orion. That my friend is within the first week of August this year. Second weblink you provided has numerous amount of adjustments to be made, for a percise correlation of the egyptian calender to our usage of georgian calender. So Master9, what exactly is "ZED" (djed, tsed) about your FESTIVAL? From what I gather in your statement, there is absolutely no correlation between Egypt of the West to Ancient Egyptian practice of the Zed Fest. Years prior to calling the Zed Fest, Nuwaubians called this alloted time Saviors Day, notably borrowed from The Black Organization N.O.I. Within the late 90's it was actually called "Family Day", that spanned across several days. Given in consideration of your Nuwaupic Calender, this is actually not only your Family Day, but also a New Year, marked by June 26, is that not correct?
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Post by chephren on May 9, 2004 16:16:19 GMT -5
Egyptian time closely paralells this formula: www.timecube.comThe Gregorian calendar cannot translate from EGYPTIAN calculations where "time' literally stood still by geomagnetic/sacred geometry mastery..... Chephren, first website link, begins with the July 21, not March 18th as you stated. July 21 is close, but the marker for which this year Djed fest commences by the helical rising of Sirius followed by Orion. That my friend is within the first week of August this year. Second weblink you provided has numerous amount of adjustments to be made, for a percise correlation of the egyptian calender to our usage of georgian calender. So Master9, what exactly is "ZED" (djed, tsed) about your FESTIVAL? From what I gather in your statement, there is absolutely no correlation between Egypt of the West to Ancient Egyptian practice of the Zed Fest. Years prior to calling the Zed Fest, Nuwaubians called this alloted time Saviors Day, notably borrowed from The Black Organization N.O.I. Within the late 90's it was actually called "Family Day", that spanned across several days. Given in consideration of your Nuwaupic Calender, this is actually not only your Family Day, but also a New Year, marked by June 26, is that not correct?
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Post by SatiyaH on May 9, 2004 20:38:36 GMT -5
In order to avoid being redunant in my posting pertaining to error of your statement, I hope by stating following facts, that you Chephren are sensible enough to accept.
Weblink states: "The dates have been adjusted to the Sothic (Sirius)year, which starts on July 21 in 2004."
Notice that Title above the given date provided on that website, 'Season of Inundation' Inundation of the Nile was marked by the consistent Helicial rising of Sirius. This sign in heaven was for the coronation of a Pharaoh ( Zed Fest). It is tedious to correlate both Georgian and Egyptian Calenders. Seeing it was suited for ancient customs and pratices, which most would not service anybody here in America.
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Post by DREAllah on May 9, 2004 21:06:50 GMT -5
Pharoah is a term for invaders that assumed the throne of the Hpy River Valley state. The title original statesmen used was Shkm. Peace.
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Post by SatiyaH on May 9, 2004 21:44:16 GMT -5
Master9 states: "We have different names according to the organization, Order, or sect the Nuwaupian is coming(of hailing) from."
I've noticed you acknowledged the sectism amongst nuwaubians. Whatever happened to 'Hold tight to the rope of Allah as one Community (Jamiyat) and be not seperated amongst yourselves.' Have you noticed that everything is getting away from precepts of what was taught originally?
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Post by Master-9 on May 9, 2004 21:59:19 GMT -5
Master9 states: "We have different names according to the organization, Order, or sect the Nuwaupian is coming(of hailing) from." I've noticed you acknowledged the sectism amongst nuwaubians. Whatever happened to 'Hold tight to the rope of Allah as one Community (Jamiyat) and be not seperated amongst yourselves.' Have you noticed that everything is getting away from precepts of what was taught originally? When I use the word "sect", I'm refering to Section, like a section of our nation. Things were becoming as you inplied, but we as a family came back together as one Jamiyat with different jobs Do you remember the BeeHive?
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Post by chephren on May 9, 2004 22:33:42 GMT -5
...We agree to disagree! Season of Harvest(Shemu) March 18th (Festival for raising of the DJED pillar)...It will be written that I am not attempting to be accepted/viewed as RIGHT to an alleged wrong (there is no wrong in this discourse )...just transferring suggested dates for DJED festivals. We do agree that DATE calculations for such an event is askew..Respects...More on the DJED FESTIVAL: www.touregypt.net/featurestories/djedpillar.htmwww.vincentbridges.com/Egypt/djed.htmlIn order to avoid being redunant in my posting pertaining to error of your statement, I hope by stating following facts, that you Chephren are sensible enough to accept. Weblink states: "The dates have been adjusted to the Sothic (Sirius)year, which starts on July 21 in 2004." Notice that Title above the given date provided on that website, 'Season of Inundation' Inundation of the Nile was marked by the consistent Helicial rising of Sirius. This sign in heaven was for the coronation of a Pharaoh ( Zed Fest). It is tedious to correlate both Georgian and Egyptian Calenders. Seeing it was suited for ancient customs and pratices, which most would not service anybody here in America.
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Post by Ralph on May 10, 2004 12:20:42 GMT -5
When I use the word "sect", I'm refering to Section, like a section of our nation. Things were becoming as you inplied, but we as a family came back together as one Jamiyat with different jobs Do you remember the BeeHive? My how we love to use Masonic symbolism...
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Post by chephren on May 10, 2004 12:28:34 GMT -5
True M-9...Every 30 years was a"water' mark for a DJED festival however, Jubilee dates could be altered per rulership: touregypt.net/featurestories/sedfestival.htmThat is correct, infact the Zjed Festival was only held once in ever 30 or 40 years in a A'afert's rule(not every year) according to our very own "Black Book" chp. 1. We have different names according to the organization, Order, or sect the Nuwaupian is coming(of hailing) from.
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Post by SatiyaH on May 10, 2004 12:58:46 GMT -5
Myhusband and minister to our family taught me sometime ago during time he wrote the book Did Egyptians Pratice Freemasonry? That the pharaoh's (A'apherti) nemez headdress represents the abdomen and stinger of the bee. Notice the stripes depicted below. He said Pharaohs wore the Nemez, but Neteru wore the crowns, which are emblematic of parts that make up the Eye of Heru (maat heru) *mention in the pyramid text*, Ascension of the King in the Temple of ON, as the highest anamorphic form being the Bennu Bird. Representing the Perfect Ashlar in masonry, or Black Pyramidion Stone (Capstone/Cornerstone) of the Holy Royal Arch Masonry. Teachings of the Beehive, and the bee, is rudiment for building a great civilization.
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