To Gto Messiah ///

[thefokus]

dre allah your lack of communication shows where you stand.......you curse, you dont even try to explain your ways...your just pissed off brother...at what i dont know and simply after seeing the way you speak i can tell that you are one confused and lost brother....your not even adressing me.... your are sterotyping me without know anything about me , the only reason i even approached you is to see if you even conduct a good argument....all you do is curse and judge me with out knowing a single thing about me .....but its all good...i still got love and respect for all including you....and you never answered my questions brother....

[DREAllah]

The only reason you approached is to argue?
See, that's the bullshit I am talking about right there.
Were you in York's group?

thefokus said:

dre allah your lack of communication shows where you stand.......you curse, you dont even try to explain your ways...your just pissed off brother...at what i dont know and simply after seeing the way you speak i can tell that you are one confused and lost brother....your not even adressing me.... your are sterotyping me without know anything about me , the only reason i even approached you is to see if you even conduct a good argument....all you do is curse and judge me with out knowing a single thing about me .....but its all good...i still got love and respect for all including you....and you never answered my questions brother....

[thefokus]

dre allah i gues you cant see in what way i used the word "argument" i meant to use it in a discussion way ,not arguing like children back and forth and cursing...when i said "conduct a good argument" i guess the correct word to use was discussion.....

argument

n 1: a fact or assertion offered as evidence that something is true; "it was a strong argument that his hypothesis was true" [syn: statement] 2: a dispute where there is strong disagreement; "they were involved in a violent argument" [syn: controversy, contention, contestation, tilt, arguing] 3: a discussion in which reasons are advanced for and against some proposition or proposal; "the argument over foreign aid goes on and on" [syn: debate] 4: a summary of the subject or plot of a literary work or play or movie; "the editor added the argument to the poem" [syn: literary argument] 5: a variable in a logical or mathematical expression whose value determines the dependent variable; if f(x)=y, x is the independent variable [syn: independent variable]

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and yes i am a Proud Student of Nete Aaferti Atum-Re...

[DenhamEL]

Islamism and Hotep!

Very correct brother! I got knowledge of self in 1981, I was 12 yrs old! Did the PH "degree" also Onondaga Lodge #32 in Syr. N.Y.! Our C-I-Power-Her was the same we learned from each other but in my time Universal Beatdowns was prominent for those who came on the inside and lip proffesed! Sat in many "schools" and went full circle!

Peace!

masterofnintharch said:

One thing I can say...York put out that Problem book...nicely bound...laid out...expounded upon etc...much better then the photocopied lessons circulating around the third tier in your local correction center. I went thru the 5%er phase when i was 14..standing on the block building..what was beautiful is that those ciphers attracted brothers following York, Hebrew Israelite, Christianity, sunni, MSt, etc...and we all learned from each other.

But sadly, most 5%ers I know are dope fiends at this point..with the exception of my man who joined Prince Hall for more knowledge..and was pleasantly surprised..I might add. But yeah..I mean...most Gods of the 5 % Nation are not Poor Righteous Teachers..they are instead devils justifying their devilishment with the claim that they are god, and yet they can't explain the concept of god.

PEACE

[masterofnintharch]

DREAllah said:

The only reason you approached is to argue?
See, that's the bullshit I am talking about right there.
Were you in York's group?

I was never in York's group, but I tell u what...I hold my square down. Nobody came at you arguing...but since u wanna destroy...I'll continue to build....Blackman. And when do u go to school up on Adam Claytton Powell? Cuz I'd like to talk circles around you right there in that rented hall.

As one white caller asked a spokesperson for the 5% Nation on Hot 97 FM in New York..what happened in 1984? How are you God if u failed? I thought Devil's heads was gonna roll down the street?

U only got the Master Fraud's scraps off the table...u got 120 and u brag about it..God forbid u get the whole 360 and back? Is polarity too deep for you...? i know, u just like to verbally ejaculate and postulate supreme wisdom. U can't fool me..not nowadays blackman..I grew up submersed in the 5% culture. You the one so fascinated with the s-word and ma-sons...why don't u A.S.K.? Afraid of that black ball? Or can't deal with a system that makes sure u actually live up to the standards it portrays in its lessons?

Uh-huh...I know.

[Kerhetmekheetatun]

masterofnintharch said:

I was never in York's group, but I tell u what...I hold my square down. Nobody came at you arguing...but since u wanna destroy...I'll continue to build....Blackman. And when do u go to school up on Adam Claytton Powell? Cuz I'd like to talk circles around you right there in that rented hall.

As one white caller asked a spokesperson for the 5% Nation on Hot 97 FM in New York..what happened in 1984? How are you God if u failed? I thought Devil's heads was gonna roll down the street?

U only got the Master Fraud's scraps off the table...u got 120 and u brag about it..God forbid u get the whole 360 and back? Is polarity too deep for you...? i know, u just like to verbally ejaculate and postulate supreme wisdom. U can't fool me..not nowadays blackman..I grew up submersed in the 5% culture. You the one so fascinated with the s-word and ma-sons...why don't u A.S.K.? Afraid of that black ball? Or can't deal with a system that makes sure u actually live up to the standards it portrays in its lessons?
Uh-huh...I know.

I didn't know that they actually black ball candidates anymore?

[GTOM]

Sadly, Most of the members of AnsaaruALLAH got hooked on that CRACK too... What you think? Brooklyn aint in the Hood?

masterofnintharch said:

One thing I can say...York put out that Problem book...nicely bound...laid out...expounded upon etc...much better then the photocopied lessons circulating around the third tier in your local correction center. I went thru the 5%er phase when i was 14..standing on the block building..what was beautiful is that those ciphers attracted brothers following York, Hebrew Israelite, Christianity, sunni, MSt, etc...and we all learned from each other.

But sadly, most 5%ers I know are dope fiends at this point..with the exception of my man who joined Prince Hall for more knowledge..and was pleasantly surprised..I might add. But yeah..I mean...most Gods of the 5 % Nation are not Poor Righteous Teachers..they are instead devils justifying their devilishment with the claim that they are god, and yet they can't explain the concept of god.

PEACE

[Hathor]

"I tell you what? Dre...you should humble yourself
and read 'The Holy Tablets' written by Dr. Malachi Z.
York-El. You're pretty young, besides you said that
you don't waste your time on these ole *&^%&^&^
who are set in their ways. So, since you are flexiable,
check That Book out and let us know..."

"I give a Shout-Out to all of the York Supporters!"
"Your Love, Right Knowledge, Right Wisdom & Right
Overstanding will not go un-noticed!"

[NAR]

Good to you DreAllah...

DREAllah said:

The solution. I teach the babies. I don't waste
the time with grown as muthafuckas who is already
set in they way, and are already blood suckers of
the poor in the making, by feeding of the young.
I teach the Babies the Knowledge of Self, The Original
Man i.e God or the Black Man, and their home, The
Planet Earth, i.e. the Black Woman. Then teach them
the Science of Supreme Mathematics so they can think
do and act in a logical order, so that they are not
victimized by rich slave makers of the poor like the
ones you continually get victimized by. Also, you
educate the people who these snakes are so they do not
come amongst us so easy and sting another one of
our babies with there mythology and fantasy about
life, "after life", "space aliens", "spook gods",
"invisibilty" and other crap being advocated by the
10% for the 85% blind deaf and dumb people to get
sucked up into. In supplement to the Knowledge of
Self, I teach and tutor the babies in the APPLIED SCIENCES
of living, applied mathematics, economics, physical
sciences, public speaking, organization, community
activism and control, environmental conservation,
and other sciences to help them make associates and
contacts in all walks of life in order to champion
the cause of SCIENCE AND CIVILIZATION.

[shamgod777]

Peace- I am part of the Nation of Gods and Earths. What you don't understand is that a 5%'er as you call us or God or Earth, come in many different currents, Sure you have some that are not up to societies standards. But then you have Many like me and my immediate family. My Uncle-(Fathers Brother) who has been a Lawyer for over 25 years. As a matter of fact his whole crew that he grew up with-in the Gods and Earths all have Great Jobs. Thats what attracted me the the Gods and Earths when I was 13. He always told me that they always was devoted to scholarship. Just off the Dome--I I know Earths that are Docters and Nurses and Business owers. And even know Gods that are in Teachers/Professors/Doctors. And By the Way-- I'm a School Teacher and my wife/Queen is a Lawyer.

Now Back to Discredit other BS stated on this thread.
The PROBLEM BOOK Number 1 was disrespectful. York put at information out to cause confusion and to tell lies. It seem like some of the Nuwauupians on this board got upset when they thought GTO Messiah put out some AMOM lessons. Question: How would you like it if I stood on the Corner of 5 Points(ATL Local train station) an sell those so-called degrees. It wouldn't be right--would it. Plus the lessons in that Book were INCORRECT. So HE-DR YORK put out FALSE INFORMATION--for the 2ND time. Remind you he did it back in 90/91 with the BOOK OF THE 5 PERCENTERS. DR. YORK HAD THE NERVER TO SELL A BOOK WITH THE FATHER/ALLAH ON THE COVER WITH THE WRONG DATE OF HIS BIRTH. How dumb could you be. That's called IRRESPONSIBLE WRITING. That's only 1 mistake mentions right now.
So Don't Ever attempt toDisrespect the Gods or Earths. You would never come to one of our rallies and speak no Non-sense. By the way WE Own our School. It was given to us by the Mayor of New York. Get your fact straight.
Peace

[Master-9]

What was incorrect in ""The Problem book""?

[masterofnintharch]

get my facts straight? how about u got to the fbi.gov site and read up on pudding yourself. I mean, I like the man...and I like how the 5%ers used to clean house with those italian geeks in brooklyn. Great stuff...but most 5%ers that I have encountered are not exactly financial, nor are they glowing with spirituality...they were usually already nodding...so GTO...when I said that about them...I didnt mean that they eventually fell victim..I meant they was on dope when they started claiming that stuff.

[BalkisII]

masterofnintharch said:

..I meant they was on dope when they started claiming that stuff.

This is true of the Ansaars also.

[SatiyaH]

masterofnintharch said:

get my facts straight? how about u got to the fbi.gov site and read up on pudding yourself. I mean, I like the man...and I like how the 5%ers used to clean house with those italian geeks in brooklyn. Great stuff...but most 5%ers that I have encountered are not exactly financial, nor are they glowing with spirituality...they were usually already nodding...so GTO...when I said that about them...I didnt mean that they eventually fell victim..I meant they was on dope when they started claiming that stuff.

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Dayum, I'm glad you went there. You want to bust out Clarence Jowars/Clarence 13X /Puddin' using an FBI site, but then discredit the FBI when it comes to York? It was 1964, how much truth and facts do you think is really on those records?
Give it a bit of time and we'll all be able to go to the FBI site and read up on York! Prove they was all on "dope" when they started claiming that

[shamgod777]

Master-9 asked the Question as to "What was wrong with the "Problem Book"
1. No one gave Dr. York the Authority to Print Our Material. 2. We do not refer to our "Lessons" as the Problem Book. 3. Dr. York used a Distorted Flag on the Cover of the Book(Disrespect) 4. 1.st page inside the book-says Clarence 37x Smith-1929-1969----This for 1 is disrespectful--He is Known as Allah or The Father. He never referred to himself as Clarence. Like I wouldn't refer to Malcolm X/Malik El Shabazz as Malcom Little--I wouldn't do it. First off he was born in 1928 and not 1929--Some research Doc did?
5. Doc said in Appendix i--Quote " I put this book out so that the young would get a fair chance at studying it as well as putting in in hard cover gives it a chance to get in the hands of many others who would not attend Ciphers or Parliaments or dare to come down into harlem to vist mecca." NOW this is BULL! What does he mean a FAIR CHANCE--Its not his call on how members of OUR NAtION obtain its literature. Now its a FACT that OUT RALLY'S and PARLIAMENTS are always PACKED. More than any Hall of Knowledge meeting on a Sunday back in the Day. I have attended the Hall of Knowledge several times in the mid 80's. They never could fill up an SCHOOL AUDITORIUM-in which we do every month- since the 60's. Now its funny that DOC alludes to that Mecca/Harlem is a slum or place that a productive citizen would not attend. But OUR SCHOOL-Allah School in Mecca Happens to be Across the street from President Bill Clinton's Office. Do you think that if Harlem is such a bad place--Lets try going to The Tents of Kedar-in BROOKLYN. NOW THAT'S A DUMP. I wouldn't to my mother to lunch in that area.
6. Last but not least--DOC says "This way the Book can last forever on the shelves of schools,Libraries......dada dada dada---Are you kidding--The wording of the Lessons in the entire book is WRONG/INCORRECT.

One Last thing----Doc has to stop saying that Elijah Muhammad Died in 1973 it was 1975

PEACE