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Post by BalkisII on Apr 30, 2004 6:14:18 GMT -5
You are right, your post was NOT a threat, I did not take it as such. However, I don't have to, nor do I have the time to go back and put up all the things YOU in particular have said in the past. It is ALL GOOD. You think that you are on a good path, and you are. You WILL see your way clearly eventually. Peace |
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Post by BalkisII on Apr 30, 2004 6:20:44 GMT -5
I Agree! They don't want to put themselves out there but they can throw stones THIS IS MY REPLY TO YOUR PM THAT I'M POSTING HERE FOR ALL TO SEE MY RESPONSE TO YOURS, WHICH I WILL NOT DIVULGE, BECAUSE YOU APPROACHED ME PRIVATELY, AND I'M THANKFUL FOR YOUR HONESTY. M-9, I know you did not know who the sister in the picture was, if you did, I know your post would have been entirely different. But it's ALL good. It caused several important revelations. Of these revelation, the main was, a face to me. I had to reveal myself, not only because you asked, but there is someone on the board who would have anyhow. I have nothing to hide, and I will NOT live my life in fear. I am aware that to some people Doc, is the main focus in their lives above what we call GOD, and even them themselves. I have never looked upon Doc as being god in the flesh. Have you forgotten one of the most important teaching that he has given us, by way of the Holy Qur'Ann, which is the last readings to man, that "ALLAH, can not become less than himself. So it would be IMPOSSIBLE for Doc to be that GOD that gave us life, that put the breath -the living soul in us, the one that created the heavens and the earth, and ALL the stars, and suns, and planets, and universes, and on, and on, and on! THAT ENTITY WHO WE CALL GOD OR ALLAH OR YWHY, ANU, EL ELYION EL, ETC. IS NOT Dr. York, he is NOT THAT GOD. That "GOD" is who we should LOVE above ALL things (the trials and tribulations that we go through in life), that GOD, is the only ONE we should have in our hearts and minds like that, not only because he IS THE CREATOR AND MAKER OF ALL, HE IS IN US! I've ALWAYS loved and respected Dr. York as a teacher. The reasons why I became part of the Ansaaru Allah community, was because after reading my FIRST book in 1981, 'The Fallacy of Easter', I pledge in my heart to be part of what I thought to be a great nation. We had a cause -doing the Father's will on earth, and the making way for the 144,000, which were supposed to be the children, OUR CHILDREN, THE PURE ONES! How is it that Dr. York, could take it upon himself to not only play GOD, but to abuse those children as young as 4, 5, 7 and 8 years old?  Tell me who really betrayed who? He betrayed our Creator, by letting people cling to him like how they should cling to GOD. He betrayed our MOST VALUABLE POSSESIONS, OUR CHILDREN -WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE 144,000 PURE SOULS. DR. YORK WENT AGAINST GOD AND OUR MISSION. I am deeply hurt for US ALL. It's not a personal hurt, that you may think that I'm being vendictive for some "differences" as you put it. This is way beyond differences, this is way beyond me. What we call GOD, HAS A HAND IN THIS ALL!!!! I AM MERELY GOD'S INSTRUMENT! GOD'S WILL IS BEING DONE. Now that is very sad that Dr. York is the only thing some people have left in this "world of insanity", if this is true, then both he, Dr. York, and us as a Nation, have failed in our mission, and have come up short in upholding our purpose in this world. We are a family, we are one, we most love one another, "GOD" is in us ALL. WE ARE GODS!!!! |
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Post by ELTRUTH on Apr 30, 2004 6:42:37 GMT -5
Read your pm, maybe you'll get an idea of the things happening. Perhaps you are clueless because you truly mean no harm  u know the firt time i thought maybe that, but if someone is putting thereself out there like balkis has/does - saying her involvment and ANYONE can read on the knews how certain people are being threaten- and then someone ask for more info- it just seams to me... and like balkis says if someone says something TOTALLY different in a pm than here- yeah u are going to be suspicious. it has nothing to do with being sensored, but the same way dell1 got here and defended someone who threatens (even in 'joke) people himself, and and by reading the post balkis put in this thread before that the johny's  DIDNT read- then i dont think its PRESUMPTIOUS of me to say there is alteria motive. and ill make this a general comment- the thing with khadiyja wasnt bringing up the sex with kids things - she was 18 when she had her kid- i think some of the mature people GOT the point i was making so i wont keep beating a dead horse. i also think some people are not readging the header for this forum- it IS called the york files - to get all that stuff off your system- it doesnt say only post if you agree and back the man- that is why when people post threads under differnt names- no one really responds to them. and even when MANY people on the post know who MANY people on here is- its not there place- or relevant- so not even an issue. maybe the johny's didnt read the ACTUAL titlle to the forum and that is why they keep trying to take everyone else who knows it OFF the subject and make the forum about someone else?   and the beat goes..... the beat goes on!.....  ;D |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Apr 30, 2004 8:44:07 GMT -5
i understand.. and i imagine those of use without all the inside information on names and stuff would'nt have caught what was going on till you spelled it out for us  Personally i still think that who you are and such has no bearing on what York did.. this whole name game is a tactic to get away from the real matter at hand.. York admitted to and was convicted of being a child molester and was given life (135 yrs) as a result. Courtney, it may not have been evident to those who do not know me, but to those who do, and some here know me, and would have told M-9 who I was, so I figured I would tell him, since he would have found out anyway, eventually (and not just a board member here, but by other nuwaubians), and then it would seem like if I was hiding and scared or something, or simply dishonest. Me saying the Lady of the Pharaohs, was NOT my role or job as somebody put it, it was just using a term someone called me in their post. I figured, if M-9 cold not figure out who that was he would have asked. But he did not, and it seem that someone else took the impression that I was hiding, so they decide to volunteer my name. Whether some may not have made the connection between my real name and Balkis or BILQIYS -which IS my Muslim name, as THEY pointed out, is not valid, because if you know my REAL name, and then you remember ALL of my post (like heck if I'm going to reiterate it ALL here for those Johnny's, YES, me too) then you will REAL-EYES, that it was me anyhow. And TRUST me (no, you don't have to, lol) Courtney, the reason M-9 gives for wanting to know who was in the sister in the picture is NOT THE REASON HE PM'd ME WITH. However, since it was a personal message, I will definately leave his message at that, but I will post what I said to him in reply. |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Apr 30, 2004 8:45:34 GMT -5
i think i prefer those muslim costumes over the egyptian ones.. the egyptian costumes i have seen look more like cheap halloween costumes to me. THESE ARE ALL JUST COSTUMES!!!!  |
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Post by BalkisII on Apr 30, 2004 19:41:45 GMT -5
i think i prefer those muslim costumes over the egyptian ones.. the egyptian costumes i have seen look more like cheap halloween costumes to me. I agree with you. The Islaamic garb, was/IS the best. However, what it has boiled down to is a mere costume to us, just a relic of what we once used to be. I loved wearing my khiymar (face veil). |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Apr 30, 2004 20:16:39 GMT -5
i hope im not being too personal, but im curious- what are you reasons for loving to wear a veil.. i dont think i would like it very much.. I agree with you. The Islaamic garb, was/IS the best. However, what it has boiled down to is a mere costume to us, just a relic of what we once used to be. I loved wearing my khiymar (face veil). |
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Post by BalkisII on Apr 30, 2004 20:19:55 GMT -5
i hope im not being too personal, but im curious- what are you reasons for loving to wear a veil.. i dont think i would like it very much.. Aside from me being in my own world, it kept me out of trouble most of the time! |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Apr 30, 2004 20:21:02 GMT -5
i can see where it might work that way.. but i would never tell my fiancee that he might get some ideas Aside from me being in my own world, it kept me out of trouble most of the time! |
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Post by BalkisII on Apr 30, 2004 20:27:45 GMT -5
i can see where it might work that way.. but i would never tell my fiancee that he might get some ideas LOL!!! I do think though that it could be a very femenine style of dress, if done tastefully. What most did not understand, was that they thought that you were more uncomfortable in the summer. However, depending on the material you were wearing, you were cooler than people walking around half naked. I like the modesty it projected, and for sure you would look totally out of place wearing a thobe and Khimar, and acting like some ghetto princess, it just did not go. |
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Post by ELTRUTH on Apr 30, 2004 22:02:23 GMT -5
hmmm! to each his own  - i had/have NO promblems DROPPING the veil! ;D ;D besides the first hoe' s in the bible wore the veil- who was the sister who put on a viel so this dude would think she was a prostitue? was it tamara or someone? cant remember but like religion its all covering up SOMETHING, i dont like anything that makes one person greater than the other 'just becasue i say so' ::)religion, customs, traditions, has bread so much war, hatred, animosity, seperation, i dont think the creator intedended it to be that way.- who has ever heard of an atheist war? |
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Post by BalkisII on May 1, 2004 1:31:07 GMT -5
hmmm! to each his own - i had/have NO promblems DROPPING the veil! ;D ;D besides the first hoe' s in the bible wore the veil- who was the sister who put on a viel so this dude would think she was a prostitue? was it tamara or someone? cant remember but like religion its all covering up SOMETHING, i dont like anything that makes one person greater than the other 'just becasue i say so' ::)religion, customs, traditions, has bread so much war, hatred, animosity, seperation, i dont think the creator intedended it to be that way.- who has ever heard of an atheist war? I can understand your sentiments about wearing the veil, and I know they have been some that did not get to wear it long enough, or at all, so, they miss knowing the benefit it afforded. However, as you say, "to each their own" Just like religion, and even hip-hop, as I'm learning, have been infiltrated by what others call reptilian, devils, etc. In other words, they portray a negative aspect of it, and drown out the ORIGINAL purpose of the veil, which was used by Abraham's sister, Sarah, was for her to COVER HER SELF UP, SO THE KING WOULD NOT HAVE SEEN HER BEAUTY AND THEN WANT HER. Especially since he had said that she was his sister, and NOT his wife. It's ALL good!!!! |
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Post by SatiyaH on May 1, 2004 2:26:16 GMT -5
i hope im not being too personal, but im curious- what are you reasons for loving to wear a veil.. i dont think i would like it very much.. I enjoyed wearing the Khimar too! Brothas gave us respect when we were in the veil! Held open doors, carried bags for us... also, up here in ohio we had this trendy thing of wearing our hair in a braided up-do so the khimar would kinda make our heads look like we had on a pointed crown. My favorite was my green one! I had this nice black one too---and the material for my white was soooo beautiful! It was very feminine without having to show our shape! Very cool in the summer, if you knew how to drink with it on and nice and warm in the winter! I tell you---if something could convince me to go back to religion--it would definitely be Islam and I'd sho'nuff wear the khimar with no problems! |
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Post by BalkisII on May 1, 2004 2:38:39 GMT -5
I enjoyed wearing the Khimar too! Brothas gave us respect when we were in the veil! Held open doors, carried bags for us... also, up here in ohio we had this trendy thing of wearing our hair in a braided up-do so the khimar would kinda make our heads look like we had on a pointed crown. My favorite was my green one! I had this nice black one too---and the material for my white was soooo beautiful! It was very feminine without having to show our shape! Very cool in the summer, if you knew how to drink with it on and nice and warm in the winter! I tell you---if something could convince me to go back to religion--it would definitely be Islam and I'd sho'nuff wear the khimar with no problems! I sure would not hesitate to wear the khiymar again! |
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Post by GTOM on May 1, 2004 2:49:19 GMT -5
A sunni cousin of mine told me that the Ansaar Women would wear Different color Khimars and Hijabs based on "Their time of the month". I didnt believe her. Was this true? My favorite was my green one! I had this nice black one too---and the material for my white was soooo beautiful!! |
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