Sympathy for Nuwaubians

[1dell]

Listen yall, doggin them at this time and stage is the worst thing we can do. Lets look at what has happened to them:

Upon being introduced to Nuwaupu you go thru some MASSIVE changes. First of all your religion is attacked, York will sit there and debunk your religion and leave you faithless. Totally feeling abandoned, betrayed, alone and hopeless and idiotic because you were duped by a system for so long. Which fosters mistrust and by default you trust the person who showed you the falsehood in your religion.

He has stripted you of identity in doing this, now you are moldable and plyable for his purposes and will embrace his doctrine no matter how bizarre things may sound to you, you can never go back because he has demolished what you were and what you had.

He makes promises of a REAL heaven, of your REAL Gods, and gives you dates and times that these things are going to take place. After you have gained faith in this man after he has taught you to distrust every and anything else, you just believe him because he was the one who revealed these great "truths" to you and uncovered the great "lies" to you. When you get caught up on dates it causes you to be loyal and piques your interest because you really want to see if what was spoken will come to fruition on the said date.

Most people can debunk your religion but not give you something to replace it, not only did he strip them of their religions and identities but he replaced them with his own brand, giving them pride (for most the first time in their lives they had pride in themselves) and self confidence and self esteem. They had their own language, their own nation, their own flag, their own land, their own gods, their own calendar and everything.

I have never been a nuwaubian so I don't know all the inside info according to whatelse he had to offer or promises made but I do know that on the surface it had to look pretty dayum appealing. Brothers were able to make loot from sharing their knowledge by selling scrolls and incense. He gave some a sense of dignity that they could generate their own incomes and become self-sufficient.

Here is where we MUCH apply innerstanding my friends. Just put yourself in that position. After you had your most sacred belongings (your religion and identity) lost to the point where you distrusted members of your own family and those who invested in you spiritually and physically only to turn to something you think you can FINALLY relax in. Something you think you can just through you entire trust into ONLY to find out that this too was a system like the one you just left. Imagine the wind being knocked out of you at this point. It's worst then when your first religions was disproven. I mean you have placed so much hope in this, invested so much money and time in this. NOOOO it can't be!! You can't return to where you came from, you don't know where to go from here. Just imagine how they must feel.

It is not a time for finger pointing, I-told-you-soing, It's no time to be harsh and callous. These people need us now. What a 1dellful feeling it is to find that after you have been betrayed by those you loved, your enemy will put down his weapons and give you his shoulder to weep upon.

The war of prides is over, all and all these are our brothers and our sisters whom only religious believes made us foes.

There has been an inordinate amount of traffic to this site since the day York received his verdict. Many have come under egyptian names. They are watching. How will the Illuminopolites react? Who the HELL would want to go to a place where after taking the biggest blow in their life only to get chewed up and spat out some moor? I think it takes bravery on their part to even show their faces here and for THAT they should be applauded and commended!

I'll be the first to say it:

Nuwaubians Illuminopolis has nothing but love for you. We mourn with you and our prayers are with you for abundant peace, blessing, and success

Let us take the Moor enlightened road. Let's keep the crime with the criminal and not punish our yokefellows of enlightenment for crimes they did not comment. Even when they debated with us and spew hate at us, find it in your heart to forgive them and the bossom that they one threw their darts into allow them to use to rest their weeping faces.

Tis the way of the Enlightened, the illumined

[Xavier]

Amen
Aum
ohm

In any form, I agree and let's open our hearts as much as needed.

[kAHANyAH]

WORDS OF TRUTH. PEACE ON IT.

ONE LOVE AND WELCOME TO ALL NUWAUBIANS WHO COME IN PEACE.

[chephren]

AGREED!!! Nuwaubians were always talking about prophecy fulfilled when anyone outside of their realm FELL OFF!!! To offer the olive branch is the 'best way' to exonerate those who come in peace since they are currently in pieces!

[NAR]

Personally speaking, I need not your sympathy. You had not it then, so how can you convince me you have it now. You are only fooling yourselves.

For four golden years now, I have come to know your sympathies.

The golden asp (Naga Haji)

[1dell]

I can dig it Nar and I expected that. But I will give it anyway even though it's not wanted.

Dude this is the biggest blow ever dealt to nuwaubu. We have never been up against this before bro. And while I see people coming out the woodwork to pounce on a defeated nation of people I am trying to hold back any further damage that has already been done for the sake of the Nuwaubians I love.

Dude at it not been for nuwaubians like you and Master9 and some others I would still be hating the lot of nuwaubians. I would be the ring leader in the present insults. Anytime now that I even go up against nuwaubu is when I am challenged by some lil young thunderCat who thinks I am a neo christian and wanna bark up my tree.

I will never disguise I dont care for York at all. But when I come to realize that Nuwaubu aint even his knowledge, I have learned to separate that man from the people and wisdom.

Maybe I shouldn't have said sympathy. What man of pride wants sympathy? I should have said EMPATHY because I too have been disappointed by my once religious leaders, thats why I can feel the pain

NAR said:

Personally speaking, I need not your sympathy. You had not it then, so how can you convince me you have it now. You are only fooling yourselves.

For four golden years now, I have come to know your sympathies.

The golden asp (Naga Haji)

[Kerhetmekheetatun]

[kAHANyAH]

NAR how can you say that ? I mean youve been wit us for so long and this is how you've felt all this time ? I didnt even think the post was meant for you because you were always a part of the illuminopolites. And it wasnt like the suggestion being made was to treat you any different. YOU IS FAM MAN!.

Brother have I disrespected you over the years ? If I have I deeply apologize and I would have wished you told me this long ago.

NAR I am really shock you feel this way.

NAR said:

Personally speaking, I need not your sympathy. You had not it then, so how can you convince me you have it now. You are only fooling yourselves.

For four golden years now, I have come to know your sympathies.

The golden asp (Naga Haji)

[BalkisII]

1dell said:

Listen yall, doggin them at this time and stage is the worst thing we can do. Lets look at what has happened to them:

Upon being introduced to Nuwaupu you go thru some MASSIVE changes. First of all your religion is attacked, York will sit there and debunk your religion and leave you faithless. Totally feeling abandoned, betrayed, alone and hopeless and idiotic because you were duped by a system for so long. Which fosters mistrust and by default you trust the person who showed you the falsehood in your religion.

He has stripted you of identity in doing this, now you are moldable and plyable for his purposes and will embrace his doctrine no matter how bizarre things may sound to you, you can never go back because he has demolished what you were and what you had.

He makes promises of a REAL heaven, of your REAL Gods, and gives you dates and times that these things are going to take place. After you have gained faith in this man after he has taught you to distrust every and anything else, you just believe him because he was the one who revealed these great "truths" to you and uncovered the great "lies" to you. When you get caught up on dates it causes you to be loyal and piques your interest because you really want to see if what was spoken will come to fruition on the said date.

Most people can debunk your religion but not give you something to replace it, not only did he strip them of their religions and identities but he replaced them with his own brand, giving them pride (for most the first time in their lives they had pride in themselves) and self confidence and self esteem. They had their own language, their own nation, their own flag, their own land, their own gods, their own calendar and everything.

I have never been a nuwaubian so I don't know all the inside info according to whatelse he had to offer or promises made but I do know that on the surface it had to look pretty dayum appealing. Brothers were able to make loot from sharing their knowledge by selling scrolls and incense. He gave some a sense of dignity that they could generate their own incomes and become self-sufficient.

Here is where we MUCH apply innerstanding my friends. Just put yourself in that position. After you had your most sacred belongings (your religion and identity) lost to the point where you distrusted members of your own family and those who invested in you spiritually and physically only to turn to something you think you can FINALLY relax in. Something you think you can just through you entire trust into ONLY to find out that this too was a system like the one you just left. Imagine the wind being knocked out of you at this point. It's worst then when your first religions was disproven. I mean you have placed so much hope in this, invested so much money and time in this. NOOOO it can't be!! You can't return to where you came from, you don't know where to go from here. Just imagine how they must feel.

It is not a time for finger pointing, I-told-you-soing, It's no time to be harsh and callous. These people need us now. What a 1dellful feeling it is to find that after you have been betrayed by those you loved, your enemy will put down his weapons and give you his shoulder to weep upon.

The war of prides is over, all and all these are our brothers and our sisters whom only religious believes made us foes.

There has been an inordinate amount of traffic to this site since the day York received his verdict. Many have come under egyptian names. They are watching. How will the Illuminopolites react? Who the HELL would want to go to a place where after taking the biggest blow in their life only to get chewed up and spat out some moor? I think it takes bravery on their part to even show their faces here and for THAT they should be applauded and commended!

I'll be the first to say it:

Nuwaubians Illuminopolis has nothing but love for you. We mourn with you and our prayers are with you for abundant peace, blessing, and success

Let us take the Moor enlightened road. Let's keep the crime with the criminal and not punish our yokefellows of enlightenment for crimes they did not comment. Even when they debated with us and spew hate at us, find it in your heart to forgive them and the bossom that they one threw their darts into allow them to use to rest their weeping faces.

Tis the way of the Enlightened, the illumined

"...entire trust into ONLY to find out that this too was a system like the one you just left. Imagine the wind being knocked out of you at this point"
By the time we got upstate, I realized this just like you are saying here. But then what do you do? You still believe that it it could be done, that someday, things would get better. So you do your part in trying to make it so. But at times it felt like you were "fighting City Hall" so to speak.
We thought that we were being tested as to our faith!
So we endured. and WE DID ENDURE UNTIL THE END!
That end was on MAY 8 2002. THE END OF HIS REIGN
However that particular "END" was JUST for that particular chapter in the "BOOK OF LIFE" of MZY!
HIS FAITH HAS BEEN SEALED.
HE KNEW THAT!
So it is good to know that here in this "COMMUNITY" the FACTS are known, and any who come here, can receive LOVE and COMPASION.

[SatiyaH]

There is a lot of confusion and pain amongst many of York's followers. They are still holding on to the rope, but who has the other end? They surely can ask mercy from the most high, but they too are damned if they have become deaf, dumb and blind. Once "Allah" seals your heart, there is nothing that can unseal it.
(yeah yeah, this is religious talk, but there are many good analagies in holy books around the planet;) )

It really baffles my mind to see them not realize that this IS a sign from the most high! When your prayers end this way...yet, you twist it to say "It's not over, he still gets to appeal" I have nothing but pity for your soul.
I shake my head and hold back tears.

It is good as an online society, family, to open our hearts to those who wish to come here and gain information on current local, national, world, political, religious events. But this is just cyberspace. In the real world, they need to either re-connect with blood relatives and old friends who still love them. They need to learn to re-adapt back into society. They need to pick up the pieces and decide "what's next" for themselves. They must realize they don't have to "join" something else: PHA, NOI, MST or any other initials.
They must realize that all along, they themselves have held the keys to their own salvation.

There are those along the way who say "I've never been caught up on Maku, I was just about the knowledge". Good for you. Now click your heels and say that 3 times and home you shall go Dorothy! The curtain has been pulled back, and you see the mighty Wizard (Imaam, Maji, Maku) is nothing but a little man.

[chephren]

Well said Satiya H...I'm of the thought that the best way to shake a fix is to attack the fix!!! By pointing out York is/was just a LITTLE MAN the reality of the Yorkie mind control situation is remedied! I step with vigor to 1DELL's olive branch approach for I personally know Nuwaubians who I genuinely CARE for and know there devastation for binding partners. To keep an inflammatory relationship with hostile Nuwaubians is a waste the USA who allowed York 30 years of rope and honored his right of citizenship just did what the MOST HIGH authorized and that's "SHUT HIM DOWN"!!!!

[Master-9]

I respect your sympathy for The Yamassee(UNNM)/Nuwaubians.

The command was to hold on to the rope of ALLAH and never seperate.
Times will get hard(tribulations), but for those who know the Master is who he says he is, don't care about the opinions of others. We know what must happen, for all the prophets , apostles, and great men of colour have gone through the same. Always sold out by there own, not one pale-face stood on the stand against our savior, not one pale-face attacks his doctrine(except Satiyah), it's always us(niggers, negros, nubians, nuwaubians, muurs, and whatever name we or the pale-face chooses to call us).

The War is not over, if we can't beat the Devil in his courts, we will beat him in other ways(don't ask).

I suggest sense this over to most of you, let move on to new subjects


Peace in the Lamb is truly wonderful,




[shadow=red,left,300]Master-9[/shadow]

[SatiyaH]

Master9 said:

I respect your sympathy for The Yamassee(UNNM)/Nuwaubians.

The command was to hold on to the rope of ALLAH and never seperate.
The War is not over, if we can't beat the Devil in his courts, we will beat him in other ways(don't ask).


[shadow=red,left,300]Master-9[/shadow]

"And hold fast,

All together, by the rope

Which Allah (stretches out for you),

and be not divided among yourselves;"

[Al-Quraan 3:103]

That was written because they were once divided/enemies.

You are already divided. You have the UNNM, and the Mt.Arafat Nuwaubians. You yourself have stated that Master9.

You said "don't ask"...but of course I have to ask. What exactly are you referring to? I hope you are not suggesting a physical war, because you surely are not ready for that!

[chephren]

Let the record show this (York Saga) was Nuwaubian versus the Nuwaubian Leader!!! Not Baptist vs York, not Elk vs York, not Nation of Islam vs York, not TD Jakes vs York, not the Boston Celtics vs York, not Macon Mayor Ellis vs York, not Sun Yung Moon vs York, not the Knights Of Templar vs York, Not the Pope vs York, not The Black Panther Party vs York , not Sunni Islam vs York BUT NUWAUBIANS SOME WHO BORE YORK"S CHILDREN VS YORK!!!! What prophet, sage, or any ANCIENT GREAT HAD THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO REJECT A GUILTY PLEA THEN HIRE AND FIRE COUNSEL AND HAVE A TRIAL AMONGST FELLOW CITIZENS AND WAS FOUND GUILTY!!!! Point me to this historical text where this parallels York's CONVICTION .....even Elijah Muhammad never went to trial for lack of PENIS discipline!!!! Come M-9 Come better!!!!

[Master-9]

chephren said:

Let the record show this (York Saga) was Nuwaubian versus the Nuwaubian Leader!!! Not Baptist vs York, not Elk vs York, not Nation of Islam vs York, not TD Jakes vs York, not the Boston Celtics vs York, not Macon Mayor Ellis vs York, not Sun Yung Moon vs York, not the Knights Of Templar vs York, Not the Pope vs York, not The Black Panther Party vs York , not Sunni Islam vs York BUT NUWAUBIANS SOME WHO BORE YORK"S CHILDREN VS YORK!!!! What prophet, sage, or any ANCIENT GREAT HAD THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO REJECT A GUILTY PLEA THEN HIRE AND FIRE COUNSEL AND HAVE A TRIAL AMONGST FELLOW CITIZENS AND WAS FOUND GUILTY!!!! Point me to this historical text where this parallels York's CONVICTION .....even Elijah Muhammad never went to trial for lack of PENIS discipline!!!! Come M-9 Come better!!!!

So you believe the WHITEMAN & his black nigger demons?