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Post by kAHANyAH on Feb 5, 2004 10:11:07 GMT -5
I am not a student of nuwaupu so not really privy to the info contained in MZY's lessons. I get my tid bits from the nuwaubians who come to this board, also I had bought the holy tablets first edition when it first came out. I skimmed thru it and wound up giving it away free 2 weeks from date of purchase [either 95 or 96']. I found nothing in there I didnt already know or just wasn't jiving right. But if he is taking credit for the information garnered from outside sources instead of conclusions drawn from it then he is a THIEF. and also- dont try to take credit for being the ORIGINATOR of that information.. [/quote] |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Feb 5, 2004 10:31:13 GMT -5
i still can't get over all that alien stuff.. i have posted a few times asking about proof of what i think is called Teros.. which is supposedly a group of aliens that live in the center of the earth. I am not a student of nuwaupu so not really privy to the info contained in MZY's lessons. I get my tid bits from the nuwaubians who come to this board, also I had bought the holy tablets first edition when it first came out. I skimmed thru it and wound up giving it away free 2 weeks from date of purchase [either 95 or 96']. I found nothing in there I didnt already know or just wasn't jiving right. But if he is taking credit for the information garnered from outside sources instead of conclusions drawn from it then he is a THIEF. [/quote] |
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Post by NAR on Feb 5, 2004 12:10:39 GMT -5
Peace Courtney... According to Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the U.S. Constitution, "the Congress shall have power . . . to promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries." In addition, Section 107 of the Copyright Law allows for the "fair use" of a copyrighted work for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. that could possibly be because he had no right to do so.. if it was copied from someone else's work... Main Entry: 1copy·right Pronunciation: -"rIt Function: noun : the exclusive legal right to reproduce, publish, and sell the matter and form (as of a literary, musical, or artistic work) This would mean that the AUTHOR of the copywritten work has the EXCLUSIVE legal right to reproduce, publish, and sell the matter and form.. in other words the AUTHOR is the only one legally allowed to do so.. |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Feb 5, 2004 13:11:31 GMT -5
Peace to you Atun-Re.. putting the technicalities aside.. what about SITING THE SOURCES?? when you use other's work for research you are supposed to site ALL your sources and give them credit for all of their work that was used.. as I think Kah said.. that is what the important thing here.. that and taking someone's ENTIRE book or publication and passing it off as your own is a little more than using something as a "reference".. it's like comparing a papercut to heart bypass surgury.. and back to the technicalities.. as far as congress securing the copyright for a "limited time".. ok i grant you that.. but lets consider integrity.. hypothetically someone could have copywritten something a 100 yrs ago and their copyright has since expired.. and joe blow can come along in 2004 and plagerize that person's work passing it off as their own.. yes legally they can do that.. but what's more important is that morally it's wrong.. and it's dishonest.. and i CERTAINLY would not follow someone that demonstrates those sort of qualities on such a large scale.. yes we are human and fallible.. but gimme a break.. Peace Courtney... According to Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the U.S. Constitution, "the Congress shall have power . . . to promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries." In addition, Section 107 of the Copyright Law allows for the "fair use" of a copyrighted work for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Feb 5, 2004 13:22:38 GMT -5
Hey NAR, thats fine and dandy but it does NOT EXCUSE passing another person's writing for your own. THATS WHY THE CLAUSE IS IN THE CONSTITUTION; To secure for limited times, exclusive right of intellectual property. How long do copyrights last ? As long as the life of the author PLUS 50 yrs. I had asked this before, did MZY give acknowledgement to the Urantia foundation because he did paraphrase (with slight changes to names to fit his own religion) one of the papers from the Urantia book [Paper 53 The Luciferian Rebellion] and they are the owners of the copyright. If he didnt, his estate and he personally can be sued for infringement. Peace Courtney... According to Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the U.S. Constitution, "the Congress shall have power . . . to promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries." In addition, Section 107 of the Copyright Law allows for the "fair use" of a copyrighted work for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. |
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Post by Ralph on Feb 5, 2004 14:39:07 GMT -5
Hey NAR, thats fine and dandy but it does NOT EXCUSE passing another person's writing for your own. THATS WHY THE CLAUSE IS IN THE CONSTITUTION; To secure for limited times, exclusive right of intellectual property. How long do copyrights last ? As long as the life of the author PLUS 50 yrs. I had asked this before, did MZY give acknowledgement to the Urantia foundation because he did paraphrase (with slight changes to names to fit his own religion) one of the papers from the Urantia book [Paper 53 The Luciferian Rebellion] and they are the owners of the copyright. If he didnt, his estate and he personally can be sued for infringement. While I am here at my worksyudy job, thought I would chime in. Please consider: www.cybercrime.gov/ipmanual/03ipma.htm#III.C. Now how much did York make off his books? Someone may be entitled to some loot! Now read: www.cybercrime.gov/ipmanual/03ipma.htm#III.D. York may be facing more jail time..... |
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Post by SatiyaH on Feb 5, 2004 15:29:27 GMT -5
We've been in email correspondance with Robert Bauval (Starvlingb@aol.com), Graham Hancock and Robert Temple for over a year now compiling information for them regarding plagiarism of their works. Needless to say, they are rather pissed.". www.robertbauval.com/Chapter 3 Tablet Five of the Holy Tablets were taken directly from the above mentioned writers, as well as the continuing chapters. On page 331 of the Holy Tablets you will see a photo of the Shaft of the East Wall of the Queen's Chamber. The man shown in that photo is Robert Temple. That photo is copywritten, and he assured us he not only did not give permission for that photo to be used, but that he never heard of York, Maku, Nuwaubians etc. The other photos and charts in that same chapter were taken from his books and books of the other writers I mentioned. They are copywritten photos and charts in which no permission, expressed or implied was given. Several paragraphs in the Holy Tablets around that same chapter are VERBATIM from books by the abovementioned authors. |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Feb 5, 2004 18:24:38 GMT -5
Hmmm...   |
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Post by NAR on Feb 6, 2004 8:32:42 GMT -5
Peace Satiyah, The Ra Naboo (original man) designed the Gizah Complex (and many others like it around this globe) to resemble the Belt of Orion in which the Maia called “The Turtle (Aoc).” To this day modern man knows not its (gizah, teotiwakan) architects. Robert Bauval, Graham Hancock and the likes are only re-discovering Nuwaubu (Nubia). We've been in email correspondance with Robert Bauval (Starvlingb@aol.com), Graham Hancock and Robert Temple for over a year now compiling information for them regarding plagiarism of their works. Needless to say, they are rather pissed.". www.robertbauval.com/Chapter 3 Tablet Five of the Holy Tablets were taken directly from the above mentioned writers, as well as the continuing chapters. On page 331 of the Holy Tablets you will see a photo of the Shaft of the East Wall of the Queen's Chamber. The man shown in that photo is Robert Temple. That photo is copywritten, and he assured us he not only did not give permission for that photo to be used, but that he never heard of York, Maku, Nuwaubians etc. The other photos and charts in that same chapter were taken from his books and books of the other writers I mentioned. They are copywritten photos and charts in which no permission, expressed or implied was given. Several paragraphs in the Holy Tablets around that same chapter are VERBATIM from books by the abovementioned authors. |
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Post by NAR on Feb 6, 2004 8:57:08 GMT -5
Who is the human author of the URANTIA book? Hey NAR, thats fine and dandy but it does NOT EXCUSE passing another person's writing for your own. THATS WHY THE CLAUSE IS IN THE CONSTITUTION; To secure for limited times, exclusive right of intellectual property. How long do copyrights last ? As long as the life of the author PLUS 50 yrs. I had asked this before, did MZY give acknowledgement to the Urantia foundation because he did paraphrase (with slight changes to names to fit his own religion) one of the papers from the Urantia book [Paper 53 The Luciferian Rebellion] and they are the owners of the copyright. If he didnt, his estate and he personally can be sued for infringement. |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Feb 6, 2004 9:51:57 GMT -5
Kill the noise NAR , the case was settled. Urantia foundation has exclusive copyright ownership. Doesn't matter who the "AUTHOR" is 'cause according to law the foundation holds the copyright. Who is the human author of the URANTIA book? |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Feb 6, 2004 10:06:22 GMT -5
I cut and pasted this from the Urantia official website:
"Where Did The Urantia Book Come From?
In the early 20th century, a physician practicing in Chicago became the head of a group known as the Contact Commission. This small group was the focal point for the production of, and the primary custodian for, the final text of The Urantia Book. They were sworn not to disclose details about the transactions in order to preclude future generations from venerating the participants. It was considered important that no individual might be exalted through their association with The Urantia Book. Because of its revelatory nature, the book stands on its own merit, nature and content."
this is just an fyi.. i think it's interested that the people that came together to make the book didnt name any one particular person so that "no individual might be exalted through their association with the book"..not like what i have heard with york.. his name was pasted all over them- eventhough most of the work on some of the scrolls was done by the women- as told by one of our members here on the board that saw it for herself.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Feb 6, 2004 10:12:51 GMT -5
You did your homework Courtney :-). Thats the sole reason why the *contactee* was never revealed. Because of this, the lady (her name evades me. Its been a while - 1990s) who was sued by the Urantia foundation decided she could provide a free folio of the Urantia papers online (I was lucky to dl the folio before it was taken down after the lawsuit). She argued the Urantia papers has no mortal author and the contactees were only transmitters for the supposed supermortals who brought the new revelation. She contended the work was FREE DOMAIN. Well all of that was settled in the court. She was found in violation and also the Urantia foundation once and for all established Copyright ownership. ITS ON PAPER NOW AND LEGIT. They hold the copyright... END OF DISCUSSION.. NAR! (Atun Re) |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Feb 6, 2004 10:16:52 GMT -5
I try :-) You did your homework Courtney :-). |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Feb 6, 2004 10:20:32 GMT -5
courtney, have you ever peeped some of the info contained in the Urantia Papers ? |
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