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Post by NAR on Jan 27, 2004 10:32:24 GMT -5
Indeed, I do recall that Illuzion is a public domain....I am sorry if I put you all in the spot light. Peace you two... Why direct this exclusively to us? There are several on here discussing this same topic. Why not expound on it for all? If it were meant only for us, then I have a pm box you could have sent it to-- |
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Post by SatiyaH on Jan 27, 2004 10:32:42 GMT -5
The etymology of the word "pedophile" is innocent enough, just like you mentioned. According to the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (1981), "pedo-" is a Greek prefix indicating "child;" "-phile" is derived from Latin, Greek, and French and means "having a strong love or affinity or preference for." The connotation of the term "pedophile" has become synonymous with the term child molester. Basically, a pedophile takes his/her love for children too far in the area of sexual exploitation of the young. This is a fine example of a word whose original meaning was different than the meaning it bears today. Words pick up certain connotations - or associated emotions with time. Another example for such is the word "cool". That word used to bear a negative meaning - to describe someone as "cool" meaning "not warm" (emotinally) - apathetic. Nowadays the word has a positive connotation, "cool" meaning "Calm self-control" The word pedophile came to use in English language in 1906. English language has well been known to take from other languages. We don't have a word for "taco" so we simply say taco. We didn't have a word used to mean sexual relations with a child, so pedophilia was used for that. Same with necrophilia. Broken down it literally means love of the dead, but it has become known as meaning sexual acts with dead bodies. Main Entry: ped·er·ast Pronunciation: 'pe-d&-"rast Function: noun Etymology: Greek paiderastEs, literally, lover of boys, from paid- ped- + erastEs lover, from erasthai to love -- Date: circa 1736 : one that practices anal intercourse especially with a boy Pedophilia as noted above is a sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object. Pederasty being lover of boys; one that practices anal intercourse especially with a boy. Many times we have found that homosexuals have attempted to confuse the public with their statements. How many of you heard - 80% of the pedophiles are heterosexual white men? Given that, homosexuals have many words and terms with different meanings than the dictionary will give you, and given that the American public doesn't generally use the word pederasty, the homosexuals "could" be correct in the statement above. Further, given that homosexuals continually demand the "age of consent" law to be lowered, what you and I would define as a "boy", and what they define as a "boy", would amount to different aged children. Simply because some cultures believe that a 13 year old child is old enough to marry, does not mean that we should permit adults to have sex with adults. How many 13 year old children/pre teens do you know, that are ready for a sexual relationship--emotionally, and mentally--regardless of their physical development? If the pedophiles/pedarasts get their way, age of consent laws will be lowered! Have you ever heard fo the demand for "The Dutch Law". The Dutch have lowered age of consent, to age 12, and promote it! By claiming to innocently want tolerance, diversity and acceptance, the pedophiles are now the "victim". In reality, the pedophiles want protection to have sex with your pre teen children! Are you ready to accept a 29 year old man into your home to date your 12 year old? Or a 58 year old fathering your grandchild by your 16 year old daughter? Or how about sodomizing your 14 year old son, because he "loves" children! www.nambla1.de/ |
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Post by NAR on Jan 27, 2004 10:57:38 GMT -5
Thank God for PSONICS... Paedophile is the British way of saying the American Pedophile. Brother Kah, the word "Pedophile" is a Greek compound for Pedo (child) and Philos (To Love). Hence, pedophile literally means, "To Love a Child," "One who loves the children." You are putting too much sensual energy into the word. NAR maybe this might convince you otherwise... Paedophile ====> Père-defiles. Btw..., le père is french for father or father figure - priest . Paedophilia [ the-Père-feels-ya, intrusively of course] defiles the innocence of children bros. You may wanna retract that statement  . |
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Post by 1dell on Jan 27, 2004 11:03:26 GMT -5
Aw dayum in that first pic Satiyah Baba looks like Edgerin James, running back for the colts!!! POWER OF NUWUABU: Sai Baba materializing a necklace  Sai Baba's 3 fingers rep. the 3 degrees of Nuwuabu(Right Knowledge, Right Wisdom, Right Overstanding)  Sai Baba and young boy sit on bed   Windblown, Leg showing   Sai Baba with Mukthananda Baba  Sai Baba with hands on hips  Standing pose with hand on hip  FLAMER!!!  |
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Post by SatiyaH on Jan 27, 2004 11:06:05 GMT -5
A letter from a prisoner--someone who simply "loves children".
...So what is jail like, you ask?
Inhuman, unreal, impersonal, frightening, diminishing, cruel, heartless ~ like every prison movie you ever saw, except not dark, dingy and dirty, but ~ on the contrary ~ intimately sterile, bare, super-clean, over-bright, glacial, frigid in every sense.
And for what reason is all this punishment? (For, mark my words, being here is punishment, even though I am guilty of no crime, just as in all totalitarian countries.)
Just because I looked after, loved and cared for several boys over a number of years, boys who were my good friends as I was theirs; and allegedly allowed that love to develop naturally into physical affection .
They're supposedly being "protected". From what? And from whom?
They neither want to be, nor did they ask to be "protected" from their grown-up friends. They only want to be protected from the efflorescent evil of over-ambitious detectives and DA's who seek promotion, publicity, and political advancement with utter disregard for the kids' feelings or the ruination of their lives.
For boys and men alike, police intervention into their friendships is a total disaster, even if, later, charges are dismissed. The damage to both is irreparable. Nevertheless, of course, I hope this harm is minimized by the authorities dropping this senseless prosecution of my friends and myself and avoiding the many many months of media-sensationalized show- trials that will otherwise be the inevitable, ghastly and traumatic result.
Let us pray that this, at least, can be achieved.
Affectionally,
Martin
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I ask you again. Do you want this man, or any other man having a RIGHT to simply "love your child". People like him and others want the law to be changed, they use the term the same way you do it simply means "love".
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Post by SatiyaH on Jan 27, 2004 11:16:36 GMT -5
1Dell, it is: Sathya Sai Baba not Satiyah!  |
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Post by NAR on Jan 27, 2004 11:30:19 GMT -5
 1Dell, it is: Sathya Sai Baba not Satiyah!
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Post by Ralph on Jan 27, 2004 11:53:38 GMT -5
If so, why didn't he say so when the judged ASKed him that very question. That would have been his opening to say that he felt that he was forced to plead guilty. I mean if I was coerced, tortured, etc... then I would SPEAK UP!!! but no, when the question was asked he said NO. What would be the purpose of pleading guilty if you are innocent? Why would you not take the stand in YOUR OWN DEFENSE?? Especially as the "leader" of a nation of people who worship you? The actions are not the actions of an man who is innocent, is it? Maybe I'm missing something here.... HTP Black Lotus idaho.indymedia.org/uploads/york_pleads_guilty.wmvExactly my question on another thread. Why did he not get on the stand himself? He is a smooth talker and could have gotten his way out of that one. Hell, he converted many to follow him for the last few years, why not the judge, the jury and the prosecutors. They could have become members of York's flock. Imagine that! Those who were against him are converted to Nuwaubians.... |
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Post by NAR on Jan 27, 2004 12:03:12 GMT -5
Now that is a good question to ask the man himself. After all you all have asked him questions for well over thirty years. Why stop now... Exactly my question on another thread. Why did he not get on the stand himself? He is a smooth talker and could have gotten his way out of that one. Hell, he converted many to follow him for the last few years, why not the judge, the jury and the prosecutors. They could have become members of York's flock. Imagine that! Those who were against him are Nuwaubians.... |
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Post by SatiyaH on Jan 27, 2004 12:24:46 GMT -5
Now that is a good question to ask the man himself. After all you all have asked him questions for well over thirty years. Why stop now... Cute answer. I think I will take you up on that, though I doubt I'll get a response from him. |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jan 27, 2004 12:36:31 GMT -5
Actually NAR, that son-x only re-iterates what the word means... Main Entry: pe·do·phil·ia Pronunciation: "pE-d&-'fi-lE-& Function: noun Etymology: New Latin : sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object- pe·do·phil·i·ac /-'fi-lE-"ak/ or pe·do·phil·ic /-'fi-lik/ adjective As you can see in the above Merriam Webster dictionary definition, paedophile describes one who has a sexual perverse feeling towards a child. Now Nar lets take it a step further *again* with son-x and do the word pedophilic... Paedophilic -> père-the-phallus. I have demonstrated from my son-x and the Merriam Webster dictionary that the word [paedophilia] is riddled with sensual energy. The people who coined the word had an intended meaning behind it which validates the psonix. THANK GOD FOR PSONIX Thank God for PSONICS... Paedophile is the British way of saying the American Pedophile. Brother Kah, the word "Pedophile" is a Greek compound for Pedo (child) and Philos (To Love). Hence, pedophile literally means, "To Love a Child," "One who loves the children." You are putting too much sensual energy into the word. |
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Post by ~Black Lotus~ on Jan 27, 2004 12:53:22 GMT -5
You are right NAR, but will we get a response? Highly doubtful. The fact is that the actions of this man regarding his case, are not the actions of someone trying to prove his innocence! I mean I've sat in the classes & questioned, listened, learned and more from Brooklyn to Eatonton. I've debated & broken down just about every doctrine as a Nuwaubian. I even took it upon myself to STOP & Go back and figure out WHY I was so deep into this information, so that I could assure myself that I wasn't following blindly. And of course by doing my own re-search (to look again), I found the contradictions, plagiarisms & straight up untruths that, if i didn't know any better I would've be-lie-eved because I had no way of verification. Anyway the point is after all that as my experience, I don't see the actions of this "god" as one trying to prove innocence. This part of the trial is over except for the appeals which will take a while but there is still a state case with over 208 counts of Child molestation that he pleaded guilty to! Come on... HTP Now that is a good question to ask the man himself. After all you all have asked him questions for well over thirty years. Why stop now... |
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Post by Nubian Ninjah on Jan 27, 2004 15:13:32 GMT -5
yo kah dat nigga nar(ms.9) is stuuuupid. he can run off some twisted math, irrelevant quotes, dissonant history and come off lookin jus like his pimpdaddy york(in da fleseshs)looka hea.... he ain't da sharpist knife in da draw....  |
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Post by Ralph on Jan 27, 2004 16:16:41 GMT -5
You are right NAR, but will we get a response? Highly doubtful. The fact is that the actions of this man regarding his case, are not the actions of someone trying to prove his innocence! I mean I've sat in the classes & questioned, listened, learned and more from Brooklyn to Eatonton. I've debated & broken down just about every doctrine as a Nuwaubian. I even took it upon myself to STOP & Go back and figure out WHY I was so deep into this information, so that I could assure myself that I wasn't following blindly. And of course by doing my own re-search (to look again), I found the contradictions, plagiarisms & straight up untruths that, if i didn't know any better I would've be-lie-eved because I had no way of verification. Anyway the point is after all that as my experience, I don't see the actions of this "god" as one trying to prove innocence. This part of the trial is over except for the appeals which will take a while but there is still a state case with over 208 counts of Child molestation that he pleaded guilty to! Come on... HTP Black Lotus, You are one of the few who has truly found the light and has been dispersing this info to others. It is a shame that there are those who are still following the program, it reminds me of those who were in the methodone clinics when I lived in Newark. There were those who were making money off of the drug by passing it mouth to mouth to some others who needed the more than usual dosage. Sick or nasty? Some will never get over York being incarcerated. If they truly love him, then why not join him? He can use a new cell mate..... |
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Post by Ralph on Jan 27, 2004 18:43:02 GMT -5
If so, why didn't he say so when the judged ASKed him that very question. That would have been his opening to say that he felt that he was forced to plead guilty. I mean if I was coerced, tortured, etc... then I would SPEAK UP!!! but no, when the question was asked he said NO. What would be the purpose of pleading guilty if you are innocent? Why would you not take the stand in YOUR OWN DEFENSE?? Especially as the "leader" of a nation of people who worship you? The actions are not the actions of an man who is innocent, is it? Maybe I'm missing something here.... HTP Black Lotus idaho.indymedia.org/uploads/york_pleads_guilty.wmvToo bad I am not that computer literate to put this pic up on here:  I did not see any hand in the back of York's neck, so no ventriloquist move. ;D I wonder how he signed his name on that document? *****Ralph, I edited your post to add the picture. -SatiyaH |
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