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Post by Hathor on Apr 13, 2004 12:10:32 GMT -5
nar, please tell us how did york screw children and these children not tell anyone during public gatherings? i visited the land a few times and never saw or got any inclination that something funny was going on. the children appeared happy just like regular children. and how is it that male nor female knew this was happening to their children for years? even you spent time on their land - did you notice anything? and how come no one objectived to their strange living arrangements?
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Post by GTOM on Apr 13, 2004 20:48:08 GMT -5
Atun-Re, you know YOU are now ADMITING that YORK is not DIVINE? By looking for loop holes and defending D. York on Plagiarism, you are admiting that York got this information from the Urantia Book. You are trying to find a case to make sure he does not get SUED. Ok. SO just because he cant not be sued by the Urantia Foundation, does that then mean that this information originated with Nuwaubu? THE URANTIA BOOK was first published in 1955. This book contains stories that are very similar to what Malachi York says happened on Planet Rizq. How is this possible? DID Malachi York get this information from this book written by "TamaHus"? Malachi York is not DIVINE. He takes information from other people. You your self admit that by looking for loop holes. Peace Everyone, The same year (AD 1995) that the First Holy Tablets came out is the same Year that the URANTIA foundation LOST ITS COPYRIGHT to the URANTIA book. www.watchman.org/profile/urantiapro.htm |
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Post by ELTRUTH on Apr 17, 2004 19:45:22 GMT -5
nar, please tell us how did york screw children and these children not tell anyone during public gatherings? i visited the land a few times and never saw or got any inclination that something funny was going on. the children appeared happy just like regular children. and how is it that male nor female knew this was happening to their children for years? even you spent time on their land - did you notice anything? and how come no one objectived to their strange living arrangements? hathor- as ANYONE would visist the land would know- u cant intermingle with the people on the land much less the childrend, so if u only VISITED the land u would have never been AROUND them enough to know how they REALLY were. the little kids performed for the public at times - but even they didnt just sit and intermingle, when there was an event- the first couple of rows of people was told to MOVE out of the seats that are designated for the family, then on VERY few occasions, they watched a performance on saviors day then went BACK to their houses or back to work. PLUS everyone has been seperated since brooklyn. so its not like it just started. and there were many people who have tried to say something or said something about it, they were either called slanderer, or liars, or kicked out the tab. like one girl who told her mother years ago and her mother went to the people in charge of the children house at the time - they kicked her ENTIRE family out, that is just ONE of the examples of what happened when people did try to speak up- so all that talk of - why didnt people address the 'family' is B.S. there was one of his sons (blood sons) who tried to tell his mother doc tried something on him- the mother told him 'stop lieng on your father' she didnt even belive him- so when she saw the news she knew that he wasnt lieng when he told her a few years b4 the case even 'popped' up. and if childrend are brought up in a certain type of inviroment- UNLESS they have KNOWLEGABLE adults around to tell them and educate them differently- they themselves my not even be aware that what is going on is wrong. if they are not in school or being educated on what is a good touch from what is a bad touch- how will they know to tell. and if some of them DID try to tell and wasnt belived- WHO will they tell that would belive them? with medical evedence right infront of them some of the parents STILL dont belive or dont want to belive their child! |
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Post by Master-9 on Apr 17, 2004 20:07:09 GMT -5
i visited the land a few times and never saw or got any inclination that something funny was going on. the children appeared happy just like regular children.    Just look at these young boys, do they looked abused to you?  |
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Post by NAR on Apr 20, 2004 22:50:34 GMT -5
Peace GTO, We are all connected to something and we are all related in someway. The same idea can be applied to knowledge, which is external. The ability to stitch this knowledge is paramount to memory. A copyright simply means “a right to copy,” “a power to imitate.” This is contrary to something original. This notion is liken to the dynam-ism of the genetic blueprint for life, DNA and mRNA. The genetic information contained in each living cell is like an encyclopedia of coded knowledge, with an infinite magical capacity to copy itself (recall that when a portion of a DNA molecule unzips, it is ready for copying, in which mRNA transcribes DNA within the nucleus and links up with tRNA to create growing chains (silsilah) of amino acids to stitch proteins, the building blocks of life). The subtle difference with DNA and mRNA is that in the latter, Uracil replaces Thymine. So you see there is a conscious sense of “plagiary” going on at the cellular level. Also, this same type of “plagiary” is on going through and through the quantum universe (quantum plagiary). Therefore, I ask: are the gods guilty of plagiary!?...And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it... ---Gen 1 v 24-31 I am not saying that Malachi transcribed his information from the Urantia papers and into the original 1995 edition Holy Tablets (I was among the first ones to receive it at the age of twenty-five (2+5 = 7)). However, the faithful but not true are saying otherwise. If that is indeed true then you would have to asked yourself the intimate quest-ion: where did the author of the Urantia papers get his information? On a personal note, I am confident that the Holy Tablets is a divine inspiration from Great Spirit. Its dawning was necessary to speed up the brains of the Nawab (the successor, the deputies) at that instant in time (1995 = 24 = 888 = IESOUS) for a renewal had been under way. Like DNA, truth never leaves the nucleus. Nebu Atun-Re (NAR) Nine to the ninth power of nine The Nubian number Atun-Re, you know YOU are now ADMITING that YORK is not DIVINE? By looking for loop holes and defending D. York on Plagiarism, you are admiting that York got this information from the Urantia Book. You are trying to find a case to make sure he does not get SUED. Ok. SO just because he cant not be sued by the Urantia Foundation, does that then mean that this information originated with Nuwaubu? THE URANTIA BOOK was first published in 1955. This book contains stories that are very similar to what Malachi York says happened on Planet Rizq. How is this possible? DID Malachi York get this information from this book written by "TamaHus"? Malachi York is not DIVINE. He takes information from other people. You your self admit that by looking for loop holes. |
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Post by SatiyaH on Apr 21, 2004 7:22:55 GMT -5
The Symptoms of
Sexual Disturbance Among Children
Excerpted in part from Kids Online: Protecting Your Children In Cyberspace
by Donna Rice Hughes (Revell, September 1998)
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Parents, teachers, and guardians may find it difficult to distinguish between normal and healthy childhood sexual experimentation and sexual deviance resulting from exposure to pornography. The following guidelines, established by mental health and law enforcement officials, are useful in assessing sexual disturbance among children.i These guidelines can also help to identify the symptoms of psychological damage resulting from exposure to sexual material on the Internet.
Sexual Preoccupation
Children who have been harmed by viewing pornography may be excessively curious about or overly preoccupied with sexuality. Some children expose their genitals to others or engage in a sudden, unusually high level of masturbation.
Age-Inappropriate Sexualized Behavior
Some children may display sexual knowledge and behavior beyond that which is appropriate for their age. According to the American Psychiatric Press, this is one of the few reliable and distinguishing characteristics that identify sexually abused children. Very young children may enact adult sexual scenarios and behaviors in their play with other children or with their dolls and stuffed animals.
Age-Inappropriate Partners
Having learned the message that sexual overtures are acceptable ways to get attention and rewards, children may enter into unhealthy relationships, particularly with older, age-inappropriate partners. Additionally, believing the myth generated by pornography that their bodies are for the use of others, young girls may become promiscuous. Children preoccupied with sex may attempt to engage younger children in sexual behavior because younger and smaller children are easier to manipulate and often more cooperative.
Coercion
Aggressive attempts to undress, sexually touch, or attempt intercourse with others are not uncommon among sexually preoccupied children. When a tendency toward secretive play combines with intense sexual preoccupation, a child may be vulnerable to repeating his or her abuse with other children in ways that can create chaos and further victimization. Such a child requires extensive parental supervision and therapeutic help.
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Post by SatiyaH on Apr 21, 2004 7:26:08 GMT -5
Believe your child! Children rarely lie about sexual abuse or trauma.
Commend your child for telling you about his or her experience.
Convey your support for your child. Your child may fear that he or she is at fault and responsible for viewing the pornography or interacting with a sexual predator. Try to alleviate this self-blame.
Temper your own reaction. Recognize that your response sends a critical message to your child.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 21, 2004 8:29:38 GMT -5
This is a very touchy subject since there are people on the board affected by it in a personal way however I gotta disagree wit ya SatiyaH. I am around kids all the time so I think I can put my 2 cents in. If anyone is wondering I drive a private van chartering children to school and home. From my personal experience, children can lie when it comes to sexual impropriety. Again, I am speaking from personal experience. If there is allegation of improper touches, advances, etc... towards a child and if the allegations turn out false, the child who lied 9 out of 10 times is a girl. Usually a gurl like that may have had a crush on the adult male and was hurt because he did not pay attn to her or something like that. So they do so to get back. I won't go into my personal experience with this. I do think a parent should take it serious but not with the attitude the child is being truthful from the jump. FIND OUT THE FACTS FIRST BEFORE JUMPING TO CONCLUSION. About MZYork and his ordeal - at one point I was gung ho about his guilt. Its that "wanna see a titan fall" and "he bad mouthed my school" type of thing. But now, after following the case, and hearing both sides of the matter I can now say I REALLY DONT KNOW. Plus I am not even involved in it. The only thing that is clear is another black leader has been taken down. Peace. Believe your child! Children rarely lie about sexual abuse or trauma. Commend your child for telling you about his or her experience. Convey your support for your child. Your child may fear that he or she is at fault and responsible for viewing the pornography or interacting with a sexual predator. Try to alleviate this self-blame. Temper your own reaction. Recognize that your response sends a critical message to your child. |
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Post by BalkisII on Apr 21, 2004 8:57:21 GMT -5
As usual Satiyah, very informative post.
There are those here who say that they firmly believe in their conviction that york could have never done such vile things. There are others who just don't know, becuase it is NOT their experience.
To either one of you, it really does not matter to those whose account of the truth is REAL.
It IS their EXPERIENCE that IT DID HAPPEN!
Justice IS taking it's course.
A LEADER OF GOOD CHARACTER, should have NEVER succomb to his lower nature, and let it overcome him.
Now, if that is what you want to call a "LEADER" , then by ALL means YOU are entitled to your OPINION!
Peace & Love
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Apr 21, 2004 9:02:46 GMT -5
Im sorry cousin but you can't necessarily tell someone is abused by their outward appearance.. now im sure there are cases where you can.. HOWEVER, like someone else said- these children (considering they were raised away from the rest of society) may not have even known what was being done to them was wrong.. so you can't base an entire arguement that they couldnt have been abused simply by a picture of some smiling faces. Just look at these young boys, do they looked abused to you? |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Apr 21, 2004 9:05:59 GMT -5
Very true Balkis.... even if you forget the child molestation part of it.. there were plenty more things that would keep me from calling York a leader.. but that is just my humble opinion. As usual Satiyah, very informative post. There are those here who say that they firmly believe in their conviction that york could have never done such vile things. There are others who just don't know, becuase it is NOT their experience. To either one of you, it really does not matter to those whose account of the truth is REAL. It IS their EXPERIENCE that IT DID HAPPEN! Justice IS taking it's course. A LEADER OF GOOD CHARACTER, should have NEVER succomb to his lower nature, and let it overcome him. Now, if that is what you want to call a "LEADER" , then by ALL means YOU are entitled to your OPINION! Peace & Love |
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Post by BalkisII on Apr 21, 2004 9:16:22 GMT -5
Im sorry cousin but you can't necessarily tell someone is abused by their outward appearance.. now im sure there are cases where you can.. HOWEVER, like someone else said- these children (considering they were raised away from the rest of society) may not have even known what was being done to them was wrong.. so you can't base an entire arguement that they couldnt have been abused simply by a picture of some smiling faces. What people who did not live there do NOT know, is that those children were INDEED happy, JUST TO BE OUT DOORS DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND HAVING FUN. That simple, because even though we were on "holy" land, we were not able to walk around freely on our "own" land. You would be out side ONLY during time to walk, or your going back and forth from jobsite to home, etc. When people were up there, you just could not go out and intermingle. If you were up there with the people, you better believe you had a job to do -sales in consessions stands or bookstore, or during the last few yrs, some people had started to sneak away to go up the "hill". So yes, they do "appear" to be very happy overall. |
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Post by BalkisII on Apr 21, 2004 9:17:36 GMT -5
Very true Balkis.... even if you forget the child molestation part of it.. there were plenty more things that would keep me from calling York a leader.. but that is just my humble opinion. And your opinion happens to be right on POINT! |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Apr 21, 2004 9:17:37 GMT -5
Please sistah BalkisII do not get me wrong. I am not trying to disclaim the allegations made by you or anyone else with a stake in this trial. My position at this point and time is I have no right as an outsider to pass judgment. I did so before but I already explained my alterior motives for it. I was wrong and moved on. As far as the "leader" title well no matter what, he did LEAD MANY and MANY can and have attested to a positive learning experience from following him. I only said leader because that is how he is viewed by those who adhere to his teachings. I dont want you to think I was giving him some type of accolade as if he did something for me (the man was never my master or righteous teacher). I was merely acknowledging him from what has been said on his behalf by his followers willing to confirm and substantiate his leadership. Sorta like a reporter who reports on leaders of hamas killed by Israelis. The reporter refers to these hamas heads as spiritual leaders. Not to say they were spiritual leaders of the reporter. Rather they were spiritual leaders accepted as such by those who followed them. peace sistah As usual Satiyah, very informative post. There are those here who say that they firmly believe in their conviction that york could have never done such vile things. There are others who just don't know, becuase it is NOT their experience. To either one of you, it really does not matter to those whose account of the truth is REAL. It IS their EXPERIENCE that IT DID HAPPEN! Justice IS taking it's course. A LEADER OF GOOD CHARACTER, should have NEVER succomb to his lower nature, and let it overcome him. Now, if that is what you want to call a "LEADER" , then by ALL means YOU are entitled to your OPINION! Peace & Love |
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Post by BalkisII on Apr 21, 2004 9:30:08 GMT -5
My brother Kah, No one is to pass judgement on york. I know I'm not, nor not once did I say that you were. Ma'at IS being done. I have NOTHING to do with that, other that to speak what I knew to be true. That's ALL! And as far as "leader", here I must have to agree with you. He DID lead MANY to perdition, while others, he was JUST the DONKEY, that JUSUS RODE into Jerusalen! There are more than enough people on here that are nuwaubian, who are not short of giving him his due respect as far as how they see him. Therefore if you are not ascribing to the same point of view, then they don't need imput from others who claim not to hold that particular view of him as true. I'm not looking at it as if you are reporting something, because this is a message board where people post how they view, or agree, or disagree with something. Please sistah BalkisII do not get me wrong. I am not trying to disclaim the allegations made by you or anyone else with a stake in this trial. My position at this point and time is I have no right as an outsider to pass judgment. I did so before but I already explained my alterior motives for it. I was wrong and moved on. As far as the "leader" title well no matter what, he did LEAD MANY and MANY can and have attested to a positive learning experience from following him. I only said leader because that is how he is viewed by those who adhere to his teachings. I dont want you to think I was giving him some type of accolade as if he did something for me (the man was never my master or righteous teacher). I was merely acknowledging him from what has been said on his behalf by his followers willing to confirm and substantiate his leadership. Sorta like a reporter who reports on leaders of hamas killed by Israelis. He reporter refers to these hamas heads as spiritual leaders. Not to say they were spiritual leaders of the reporter. Rather they were spiritual leaders accepted as such by those who followed them. peace sistah |
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