York Trial

[TumRe]

Ok, then peace to you.

Re abreku antuk

[kAHANyAH]

You know thats a very interesting take on the judgment scene you got there SatiyaH. I've come to understand that scene in the following manner :

The heart is where you proceed thru in order to come to the place called the afterlife or the Tuat . And it is here [duat] one will be judged. How does one proceed thru the heart to come to the hereafter ? Of all the organs in the body, it is the HEART that is the final determinant on whether you live or die in temporal life. If the heart stops pumping you cease to live.

Now the heart in aegiptian is AB and is akin to the BA (soul or the surviving conscious-conscience self) which means, the soul passes thru the heart as the surviving part of the self after the flesh heart stops activity and end all bodily functions. Why is the heart weighed against the feather ? Because the feather is FLIGHT, LIGHT or ability to fly - levitate; mobility of neteru. If one's surviving conscious called the AB (BA) is too weighty, enuf to tip the scale against the feather then one has too much karmic substance within the conscious-conscience self. And these karma come in the form of lust, guilt, gluttony, attachment, etc... . Anything that will make you heavy not CLEAR OF CONSCIOUS but full of matter thereby keeping you down here in the material realm, yielding to gravity (grave).

If I recall the way the story is told, if you outweigh the feather then the crocodile (serpents , kundalin) eats you. THE RECYCLING (reincarnation ?).

MY BAD SATIYAH, THIS AINT GOT NUTTIN TO DO WIT THE THREAD TOPIC. BUT YOU IS A MERCIFUL SIS AND WILL OVERLOOK THAT

SatiyaH said:

Well, nobody is going to take your "jambo" science as serious. Jambology? The study of Jambo?
All I asked you was if you were degreed or not. If not, no big deal. Nothing to be ashamed of.
If you studied on your leisure, for personal gain not for a piece of paper, that is good-quite commendable even. I do that on a wide range of topics. I'm just asking you to clarify your statement. You said "as a scientist, I study the heart's and minds of men/women"
What field of study is that called? I want to know how is it that you study the heart of a person.

"Every way of a man right in his own eyes: but the LORD weighs the hearts."

You are judged by your heart, not your deeds. You can do wrong, but with a clear concious. You cannot pass on (to the next realm) without your heart/concious being clear. Your heart will weigh heavy if you hold guilt.

The Egyptians showed us this in the Judgement seat of Ani.
The Weighing of the Heart.



Tehuti is not weighing the heart, he is a scribe documenting the results.

The AB in Egyptian means heart, when the Egyptian priests reverse it, it would become BA, and BA has been poorly translated as soul, which really means concious. So the complete comprehension of the hieroglyph is "The Heart is the Seat of Concious".

The "Lord" weighs the heart, in accordance to the feather of Ma'at, which is "righteousnes, justice, truth".

So, how is it you, Master9 have this ability to study the hearts of men/women?

[Master-9]

TumRe said:

Ok, then peace to you.

Re abreku antuk

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[kAHANyAH]

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[Master-9]

[SatiyaH]

Master-9 said:

Good breakdown(or Build up), SatiyaH

I study the heart through the actions of man and mankind, l was born from a spiritual line of Native Americans out a Parish called St. Martinville in La. I can meet you for the first time and feel your vibe and read your entire story, but not over the internet

Your actions do not reveal what is in your heart. You say you study the heart through the actions of man and mankind. Well, Yorks ACTION was to plead guilty, yet when asked he says he is now not guilty. His actions do not reveal the intentions in his heart.
You cannot guage what is in someones heart by their actions. That is where Nuwaubians continue to mess up. They judge someone and label them disagreeable simply by their deeds. Thus, Every man is right in his OWN eyes . The LORD weighs the heart. You do not have enough knowledge to be able to know what is in someones heart.
A beautiful example of this is Al Khidr and Moses in the Quraan. Al Kihdr told him not to question his actions. Musa (alai) does not see beyond the facts of al-Khidr (alai)'s actions to understand their ultimate nature.

This can occur on either side of the spectrum. In the Quraan you see a benevolent being murdering a child and sinking a boat. Yet, his intentions were good.

With York, you have a malevolent (Male York, Mal/bad) being coming off as good--fooling you into thinking he is building a nation, only to find out it was all for his benefit, his perversions. The "first fruit's" of the ansaars were for his pickings. He lived the life of a King, while the rest of you lived as commoners.
Why is this so hard for you to comprehend? Because of his actions? He dontated to charities while his own people went to food pantrys. He drove a Navigator, while women living on Tamare had to bum rides to get to the hospitals to give birth--to his children! He rarely ate on the land---eating at restaraunts, while brothers were at the Pylon begging for cans of tuna and beans.

Do you truly know his actions, and the intent behind them? No, no more than you know mine.

[Zandor]

SatiyaH said:

eating at restaraunts, while brothers were at the Pylon begging for cans of tuna and beans.
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i used to see york eating and drinking wine/beer at this italian pizza joint in athens. i usually saw him on thurday nights, during AMOM meditation hours

[Ralph]

Master-9 said:

You my weakhanded brother

Weakhanded? Another term that is used by the Nuwaubians? What is your field of study my brother? What do you or can you research???

[SatiyaH]

Illuminatus said:

i used to see york eating and drinking wine/beer at this italian pizza joint in athens. i usually saw him on thurday nights, during AMOM meditation hours

well, if you saw him there during AMOM meditation hours, that means YOU weren't meditating, lol.

Ok, Illuminatus, this one is just for you. I will share with you what has been shared with me. Call it heresay, I don't care...but I am sure you can interpret it

When Nuwaubians were praying and using Psalms in attempt to free York, they told followers to get the book "Power of Psalms", that York told them.
I was appaled that after everything, this is what it was coming down to. Power of Psalms was written by Anne Riva, a well-known witch/wicca. Nuwaubians were writing the names of their enemies on parchment and folding it, keeping in their pockets. This is taught in witch-craft. I personally am not caring about the practice of witch-craft---I know a few who practice wicca--I was just amazed that this is what the Nuwaubians were resorting to. Nuwaubians were burning purple candles and John the Conqueror incense---again, this is wicca practice. Totally against all he was teaching for all these years, or was this the ultimate intention? Was his plan to lead them this way?
I talked about this with one of his former concubines. After filling her in on what these items were--tools of wiccan practice--she informed me of things she wittnessed, but at the time didn't think much of it.
She was cleaning York's home, which was common for the women to take turns doing. She walked into a private area of his--thinking he was not there. She walked in on him at some sort of alter, dark candles (she was not certain if they were black or blue), and he was chanting in a language she was not familiar with-she was fluent in Arabic, Nubic and Nuwaubic. She was startled, and he turned around and she barely recognized him. She ran out, and a bit later he confronted her about it. He said it was a ritual none of them were ready for, but soon.

[Master-9]

SatiyaH said:

I talked about this with one of his former concubines. After filling her in on what these items were--tools of wiccan practice--she informed me of things she wittnessed, but at the time didn't think much of it.
She was cleaning York's home, which was common for the women to take turns doing. She walked into a private area of his--thinking he was not there. She walked in on him at some sort of alter, dark candles (she was not certain if they were black or blue), and he was chanting in a language she was not familiar with-she was fluent in Arabic, Nubic and Nuwaubic. She was startled, and he turned around and she barely recognized him. She ran out, and a bit later he confronted her about it. He said it was a ritual none of them were ready for, but soon.

She's lucky she's alive to tell the story

[Master-9]

SatiyaH said:

Do you truly know his actions, and the intent behind them? No, no more than you know mine.

I knew my Savior when I first heard his voice.... :angel:

[Master-9]

Ralph said:

Weakhanded? Another term that is used by the Nuwaubians? What is your field of study my brother? What do you or can you research???

Hold on to that rope my brother.........

[Master-9]

'This little town didn't back up'
Eatonton feels relief as nearby cult wanes

By BILL TORPY
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

EATONTON -- The grandmother and community activist now smiles when thinking of the "wanted" poster once put out on her. Georgia Benjamin-Smith says the United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors once offered $500 for dirt on her and others who were seen as enemies of the outlandish religious group.

Benjamin-Smith can now venture a grin because she senses an end to a conflict that has roiled Putnam County for much of the past decade.

Malachi York, the religious leader who moved his flock from New York to property near here a decade ago to build his idea of Utopia -- complete with pyramids, obelisks and a Sphinx -- went on trial last week in federal court on charges of child molestation and racketeering.

"It's been a nightmare, but we did something New York couldn't do," said Benjamin-Smith, referring to other investigations into the group there that never produced any charges. "We stayed on it and didn't back up. This little town didn't back up."

Many Eatonton residents -- at least those who will talk about the 58-year-old York and his followers publicly -- say they are happy his case has finally come to trial and that the trial is not being held nearby. The trial has been moved to the Georgia coastal city of Brunswick, where it is being held under security so tight that early in the week some armed law enforcement agents wore masks to avoid being identified.

"People are quiet now, very quiet; they're waiting," said Benjamin-Smith, who says she found herself at odds with the Nuwaubians when she resisted the group's efforts to take over the local NAACP chapter. The Nuwaubians at the time also were locked in court battles with the county on zoning and building matters and accused county officials of racism, conspiracy and harassment.

Some in the community told Benjamin-Smith to back off. "I was told more than once, 'Leave him alone. He's just a black man trying to have something,' " she said. "But I had a gut feeling something was wrong. I'd say, 'What's wrong with you? Don't you see what's going on?' "

Sandra Adams, a county commissioner, also ended up on the "wanted" list. "This was made a racial thing and it tore the community apart," Adams said. "Al Sharpton, who is running for president, came down here and attacked us."

W.A. Bridges Jr. / AJC
Malachi York, founder of the Nuwaubians, takes part in a "Procession of Osiris" at the group's compound several years ago.

At one time, the Nuwaubians claimed to have 5,000 members and the Eatonton property drew national black leaders like Jesse Jackson, in 2001, and Sharpton, in 1999.

Activity on the 400-plus-acre compound now is minimal. Putnam County Sheriff Howard Sills, who has had run-ins with the Nuwaubians since 1997, believes fewer than 40 people now live there, down from an estimated 200 at its late 1990s peak. York's arrest in May, 2002, crippled the organization, Sills said. What is left of the ever-morphing sect remains in a holding pattern.

The grand Egyptian-style arch at the entrance of the Nuwaubian "holy land" is water-damaged and rotting.

Outside the gate, a life-size statue of an Indian stands sentry, peering into the distance. The Indian wears a beard resembling York's. The Indian represents York's newest incarnation. He now says he is a Yamassee Creek Indian named Chief Black Thunderbird Eagle and leader of an indigenous nation. In the past, he has called himself a Muslim imam and a being from outer space.

These days York is most notably an accused child- molester. He has spent the past week in a heavily fortified federal courthouse, where he is on trial for 13 child molestation and racketeering charges. If convicted, he could spend the rest of his life in prison.

Prosecutors allege York, who was arrested 20 months ago, used his teachings, his group's isolation and his own cult of personality to create and maintain a carefully orchestrated system to sexually abuse children. Several former members have testified that York sexually abused them when they were children.

York says he is innocent. His lawyers say the alleged victims testifying against him are part of a conspiracy of disgruntled former Nuwaubians caught up in a power struggle.

"The truth will come out," Frederick Johnson, a York supporter, vowed as he and a handful of other supporters waited to be escorted on an elevator by U.S. marshals to a third-floor courtroom where they watch the trial on closed-circuit TV. The courtroom where York is being tried is closed to all but credentialed media members. And the jury remains anonymous, unknown to the defense and even federal prosecutors.

U.S. District Judge C. Ashley Royal moved the trial from Macon because of pre-trial publicity. But he locked down the courthouse, fearing that Nuwaubians might intimidate witnesses and jurors and disrupt the proceedings.

In past hearings elsewhere, York's followers have packed courtrooms and have stood outside chanting and banging drums. About 200 Nuwaubians introduced themselves to Brunswick residents by marching in the Christmas parade, wearing colorful costumes, mummy outfits and bird and cow masks and handing out flyers. "I guess you'd call them New Age Egyptian," Brunswick police Sgt. Kevin Jones said.

Brunswick residents like retired paper mill supervisor Jimmy Williamson were bemused by the spectacle and impressed by the costumes. He was picking up his mail at the post office housed in the courthouse and passed through a phalanx of federal, state and local law enforcement agents.

"This a good trial for the G-8 conference," Williamson said, referring to the meeting of world leaders set for June at nearby Sea Island.

Most people passing the courthouse glance at the police, and residents still smile talking about the Christmas parade, but there is little local interest in the trial.

During the first week of a trial expected to last three to four weeks, there were few disruptions. Police said one man claimed he was Jesus, blocked traffic and was arrested. About 40 York supporters, most conservatively dressed and polite, have attended, many taking copious notes of the testimony.

"We were expecting more [York supporters]," said Sgt. Jones. "I don't know where they all went."

Sheriff Sills, in Brunswick for the trial, says the "only thing predictable about this group is that it is totally unpredictable. They could all be dressed in clown outfits tomorrow and it wouldn't surprise me a bit."

Johnson complained the expectations of big crowds and of trouble at the courthouse were produced by law enforcement officers' fears.

"This excessive show of force tells the jurors that we're here to protect you from a threat," Johnson said. He also claims that isolation and mental "torture" helped prompt York's two guilty pleas last year to the molestation charges. A federal judge refused to accept the 15-year plea deal, saying it was too lenient.

The Nuwaubians have long raised conspiracy theories. One of the newest Nuwaubian charges is a "bulletin" on the group's Internet site claiming Judge Royal "hates" Nuwaubians because his great-great-great-grandfather was a Confederate soldier who fought the Creek Indians.

If convicted on racketeering charges -- that York allegedly operated the group to commit crimes -- the federal government could seize the property outside Eatonton and sell it.

Benjamin-Smith thinks a conviction of York will kill off the group.

"With the king bee gone, [the followers] will scatter like ants," she said.

[Zandor]

York was doing a top-level vodou ritual for PAPA GHEDE
www.britwitch.com/pages/deities/ghede.html

SatiyaH said:

well, if you saw him there during AMOM meditation hours, that means YOU weren't meditating, lol.

Ok, Illuminatus, this one is just for you. I will share with you what has been shared with me. Call it heresay, I don't care...but I am sure you can interpret it

When Nuwaubians were praying and using Psalms in attempt to free York, they told followers to get the book "Power of Psalms", that York told them.
I was appaled that after everything, this is what it was coming down to. Power of Psalms was written by Anne Riva, a well-known witch/wicca. Nuwaubians were writing the names of their enemies on parchment and folding it, keeping in their pockets. This is taught in witch-craft. I personally am not caring about the practice of witch-craft---I know a few who practice wicca--I was just amazed that this is what the Nuwaubians were resorting to. Nuwaubians were burning purple candles and John the Conqueror incense---again, this is wicca practice. Totally against all he was teaching for all these years, or was this the ultimate intention? Was his plan to lead them this way?
I talked about this with one of his former concubines. After filling her in on what these items were--tools of wiccan practice--she informed me of things she wittnessed, but at the time didn't think much of it.
She was cleaning York's home, which was common for the women to take turns doing. She walked into a private area of his--thinking he was not there. She walked in on him at some sort of alter, dark candles (she was not certain if they were black or blue), and he was chanting in a language she was not familiar with-she was fluent in Arabic, Nubic and Nuwaubic. She was startled, and he turned around and she barely recognized him. She ran out, and a bit later he confronted her about it. He said it was a ritual none of them were ready for, but soon.

[Master-9]

Illuminatus said:

York was doing a top-level vodou ritual for PAPA GHEDE
www.britwitch.com/pages/deities/ghede.html

This site says:

Ghede's colour is black and he has a square cross on a tomb as his symbol. He is associated with Baron Samedi (the keeper of cemeteries and lord of zombies). He is also lord of life, the door through which the dead pass is the same door through which the gods arrive, bringing life. He is the beginning and the end. His dance is that of copulation. His chamber contains grave-diggers' tools and a sculpted phallus.

He wears a black coat, top hat, dark glasses (commonly with one lens missing). He carries a cane and smokes a cigar. He is also the god of sorcery and mixes life with death. A shrewd trickster, he speaks with a nasal voice and delights in opposites.

Ghede's other names include, Baron La Croix, Baron Piquant and Baron Cimetiere.

Ghedes will mock himself just as readily as he will mock others. He sybolises duality and the transition between life and death.

Adapted from 'A guide to the Gods' by Richard Carlyon