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Post by Master-9 on Jan 14, 2004 22:20:11 GMT -5
 :praying: What I will say is that when I spoke with my son AFTER he testified, he told me he "came out a better person"! He said he felt "greatly relieved, becasue one thing is talking to this person, and that person, but a whole nother thing is to ACTUALLY say it to his face!!! He said "it felt like a great weight was removed from him"!!! You could actually hear his voice full of energy and very vibrant, I felt very proud of him to actually have the courage to do that. He was the first of the male to come forth, he was NOT presured at all by me, as they claim. It is a decision he made on his own. I'm quite sure he's not the only one feeling relieved, and a great burden being removed from them. BTY-- M9, PLEASE keep your prayers for your own self, I can't say and family, because, it is NOT possible that YOU have any children, and besides, we already KNOW how you nuwaubians "pray" for people  I don't believe Master York did these things to your children, but I will still pray for you and yours. I have three children myself that love Dr. Malachi Z. York-El as well as myself. You are no longer loyal to our Nation/Tribe, so I have no love for you, you are a traiter, which is the worse of crimes, but I will pray for your children, for that is our mission, to raise our children for that obduction. SatiyaH kiss off  , You are a traiter also, but sense you are a Pale-Face, it doesn't come as a suprise  These Feds who you fonicate with are the same Feds who killed Malcom X, MLK, Noble Drew Ali, Marcus Garvey, Clarance 37x(13x), Rabbi Yacub ben Yusoof, The Black Panthers, Khalil Muhammad, and my physical father the late Ron Carter(1949-1979). I see through the BS, niggers talk about the struggle, I live it everyday! They(Sell outs & Feds) planned a plan and ALLAH planned a plan, and ALLAH is the best of Planners... 3x3 ALM |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jan 14, 2004 22:20:35 GMT -5
God bless that boy! BalkisII you got a strong son - mustering up courage like that to take the stand. I know it aint easy being on the witness stand and facing the person who violated you, but he was able to do it and thats gr8!!! He is doing a noble thing. Putting this man away will help prevent him from futher violating the innocense in our society. Its good that closure is now at the end of the tunnel. Peace. :praying: What I will say is that when I spoke with my son AFTER he testified, he told me he "came out a better person"! He said he felt "greatly relieved, becasue one thing is talking to this person, and that person, but a whole nother thing is to ACTUALLY say it to his face!!! He said "it felt like a great weight was removed from him"!!! You could actually hear his voice full of energy and very vibrant, I felt very proud of him to actually have the courage to do that. He was the first of the male to come forth, he was NOT presured at all by me, as they claim. It is a decision he made on his own. I'm quite sure he's not the only one feeling relieved, and a great burden being removed from them. BTY-- M9, PLEASE keep your prayers for your own self, I can't say and family, because, it is NOT possible that YOU have any children, and besides, we already KNOW how you nuwaubians "pray" for people |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jan 14, 2004 22:23:32 GMT -5
Master9, you my brother I dunno what to say  . A part of me is ANGRY LIKE A MOFO at how callous you are towards the mother of a child who had his innocense robbed/raped from him but then , theres the other part of me that feels sad  because York did a MIND JOB on you and he got a kungfu grip on it. I don't believe Master York did these things to your children, but I will still pray for you and yours. I have three children myself that love Dr. Malachi Z. York-El as well as myself. You are no longer loyal to our Nation/Tribe, so I have no love for you, you are a traiter, which is the worse of crimes, but I will pray for your children, for that is our mission, to raise our children for that obduction. SatiyaH kiss off , You are a traiter also, but sense you are a Pale-Face, it doesn't come as a suprise These Feds who you fonicate with are the same Feds who killed Malcom X, MLK, Noble Drew Ali, Marcus Garvey, Clarance 37x(13x), Rabbi Yacub ben Yusoof, The Black Panthers, Khalil Muhammad, and my physical father the late Ron Carter(1949-1979). I see through the BS, niggers talk about the struggle, I live it everyday! They(Sell outs & Feds) planned a plan and ALLAH planned a plan, and ALLAH is the best of Planners... 3x3 ALM |
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Post by Master-9 on Jan 14, 2004 22:35:31 GMT -5
Master9, you my brother I dunno what to say . A part of me is ANGRY LIKE A MOFO at how callous you are towards the mother of a child who had his innocense robbed/raped from him but then , theres the other part of me that feels sad because York did a MIND JOB on you and he got a kungfu grip on it. I feel even more sad for you, who believes the hype, but Time Will Tell, mean while Mother Nature is wooping the Beast Azz  |
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Post by 1dell on Jan 15, 2004 1:42:14 GMT -5
I feel even more sad for you, who believes the hype, but Time Will Tell, mean while Mother Nature is wooping the Beast Azz |
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Post by SatiyaH on Jan 15, 2004 2:07:44 GMT -5
damn 1dell, u so crazy. bear with my typig on this post, i on laptop and keyboard is mini vertually indestructble and its rubbery and not sittin on flat surface so i make skp some letters, lol anywho, you see i call myself white eagle now, m9 done up and pissed me off with that ole lame sttler talk, ooooppss settler--see, my family traces back (matrilineal) to the Star book and the Dawes roll --i jusst aint neva botherd fooling with it cause i aint live on no reservation and aint needed to claim my native status from this gov't. it don't take no gov't to tell you who you are--but ole york is looking for some gov't acceptance cause he wanted to build some casinos so anywho, my matrilineal names are Frye and Burke. my granny was a 4'10 jet black haired lady born in 1912 and married a man 10 years older than she  keyword-marriage--she was 14. she birthed 12 chillins at home, my mama was born in a bucket, midwife was a little late...my great granny was full blood cherokee, strong as an ox, and our family legend tells of her lifting a cow caught in a fence, while she was pregnant. she married a white man, producing my granny. i be who i be, i yam what i yam and i don't need to shame any ancestors by putting a feather in my hair and chanting at a courthouse to defend a criminal |
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Post by 1dell on Jan 15, 2004 2:42:14 GMT -5
Do yo thang girl, I aint mad atcha. I been thinkin bout changin my name too to Chief Possum Daddy or Possum Daddy the Brave.
How you trace yo family back like dat?
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Post by BalkisII on Jan 15, 2004 6:03:11 GMT -5
I don't believe Master York did these things to your children, but I will still pray for you and yours. I have three children myself that love Dr. Malachi Z. York-El as well as myself. You are no longer loyal to our Nation/Tribe, so I have no love for you, you are a traiter, which is the worse of crimes, but I will pray for your children, for that is our mission, to raise our children for that obduction. SatiyaH kiss off , You are a traiter also, but sense you are a Pale-Face, it doesn't come as a suprise These Feds who you fonicate with are the same Feds who killed Malcom X, MLK, Noble Drew Ali, Marcus Garvey, Clarance 37x(13x), Rabbi Yacub ben Yusoof, The Black Panthers, Khalil Muhammad, and my physical father the late Ron Carter(1949-1979). I see through the BS, niggers talk about the struggle, I live it everyday! They(Sell outs & Feds) planned a plan and ALLAH planned a plan, and ALLAH is the best of Planners... 3x3 ALM Wow, you 'have' children, I'm amazed, but then you are wrapped so deeply into your master's 'BLOOD', so I DO understand your devotion to a pedophile. I don't give a hoot about what you believe, this is NOT about YOUR personal belief. Many people are caught up on the dumb and ignorant beliefs, so that 's on them/you! I'm supposed to continue being loyal to a man that HAS VIOLATED MY CHILDREN OR ANY CHILDREN FOR THAT MATTER, then I need to be in jail like him. I guess we were supposed to call the children liers, tell them it was some other brother (maybe you?) who did this to them, and then that person could go to jail instead, would that not be great?! None of you all "brave" devotees came out and confessed to the crimes, so your so called beloved teacher could have been spared from all that! Had one of you been brave enough to take the rap for him, then he could be still sleeping in his great big and confy bed (maybe with your little ones, while you are in jail doing time for him?), he could still have his big tub filled every night with the perfect water temperature, and still be free to keep on ABDUCTING THE PURE CHILDREN AND ROBBING THEM OF THEIR INNOCENSE AND DIVINITY!!! Please pray that some sanity returns to your dome! |
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Post by BalkisII on Jan 15, 2004 10:57:27 GMT -5
I don't believe Master York did these things to your children, but I will still pray for you and yours. I have three children myself that love Dr. Malachi Z. York-El as well as myself. You are no longer loyal to our Nation/Tribe, so I have no love for you, you are a traiter, which is the worse of crimes, but I will pray for your children, for that is our mission, to raise our children for that obduction. SatiyaH kiss off , You are a traiter also, but sense you are a Pale-Face, it doesn't come as a suprise These Feds who you fonicate with are the same Feds who killed Malcom X, MLK, Noble Drew Ali, Marcus Garvey, Clarance 37x(13x), Rabbi Yacub ben Yusoof, The Black Panthers, Khalil Muhammad, and my physical father the late Ron Carter(1949-1979). I see through the BS, niggers talk about the struggle, I live it everyday! They(Sell outs & Feds) planned a plan and ALLAH planned a plan, and ALLAH is the best of Planners... 3x3 ALM -This here is my girl, I love her like my own daughter. She calls me Ummie! So no, I don't just grieve for my OWN "fleash and blood" I grieve deeply for her, and I'm glad her little sister did excape his CLUTCHES. I grieve for them ALL!!! " Posted on Thu, Jan. 15, 2004 Witness tells of sex abuse, death threat by York By Wayne Crenshaw Telegraph Staff Writer BRUNSWICK - Throughout the trial of Malachi York, jurors have heard the name of one alleged victim more than any other. On Wednesday, they finally saw the tender-voiced 16-year-old, who told them York molested her repeatedly for years beginning when she was 5. The sexual abuse stopped, she said, when she was about 13 and began rebelling. She left the cult's compound with her sister and mother after York started showing a sexual interest in her 12-year-old sister. "I was upset because I always said he could do whatever with me, but he's not going to touch my sister," she said. The girl's mother had testified Tuesday that York threatened to kill her daughter if she went to the authorities with allegations of sexual abuse. The girl also said York threatened her life, saying he would throw her body "behind the deer pen," a fenced area on York's 467-acre Putnam County compound that was formerly a hunting preserve. Following her testimony, Assistant U.S. Attorney Richard Moultrie announced the government was finished with its case except for one, brief witness who was not available Wednesday. The witness will testify this morning. Defense attorney Adrian Patrick said he expects to finish the defense case by Tuesday. The 16-year-old witness Wednesday also said that while she was staying at York's compound for the United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors, her mother was staying with York in Athens in what followers called "the mansion." Both testified that he cut off contact between the two and tried to drive them apart. "He said my mother hated me and she didn't want to be my mother anymore," she said, choking back tears. Cheryl Collins, a psychiatrist who treated the girl at National Children's Hospital in Washington, D.C., said the girl had post-traumatic stress disorder, which Collins said often occurs as a result of child abuse. She said the girl had nightmares, behavioral problems and showed signs of depression during her stay at the hospital. She also said the girl spoke about the abuse in a "detached monotone" and a "flat effect," which Collins said is a common coping mechanism for child abuse victims. For the second time in the trial, Patrick accused U.S. District Court Judge Ashley Royal of helping the prosecution and asked that Royal remove himself from the case. Prior to the girl's testimony, Royal called attorneys from both sides to the bench. After a conference, Patrick stated in open court that Royal had told him not to ask the girl about her mother's testimony that the girl had a problem with lying. Patrick said the judge should not have made that ruling without the prosecution requesting it. "The court is clearly acting defacto as a prosecutor," he said. Royal declined to step down. "I'm surprised you don't understand the role a judge has in a trial," he said. "You simply don't understand basic rules of evidence." Royal later cited a rule that a judge has a duty to protect witnesses from "unnecessary embarrassment." The girl testified that when she was 5, she and her 8-year-old best friend performed oral sex on York. Her friend, now 18, was the first alleged victim to testify in the trial and described the same alleged incident. Both girls also said the sex went on repeatedly for years, and happened at least three or four times per week. They said the sex included oral, vaginal and anal sex. She and her friend would often be on the playground, she said, and York would send Kathy Johnson, who followers called his "main wife," or other older girls to get them. When he was finished with them, she said, he would give them candy and send them back to the girls' quarters. On Tuesday, a 15-year-old boy the prosecution considers one of York's victims testified that York never molested him. The girl, along with previous witnesses, identified the boy as one of the children they saw York molesting. York, 58, is facing 13 counts of racketeering and transporting children across state lines for sexual purposes. In all, 12 former cult members have testified that York molested them as children. Some testified that they were involved in recruiting younger children for York. Last January, York pleaded guilty to federal charges and to 77 state charges of molestation. The plea agreement would have sent York to prison for 15 years, but a federal judge rejected the sentence as too lenient. York has not withdrawn his guilty plea to the state charges, though he has not been sentenced and could withdraw his plea before he is sentenced. York and his followers moved to Putnam County in 1993, where they erected numerous Egyptian-style structures, among them two pyramids and a sphinx. York has alternately claimed to be Muslim, Christian, American Indian and from another planet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To contact Wayne Crenshaw, call (478) 275-1116 or e-mail wcrenshaw@macontel.com. " |
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Post by Master-9 on Jan 15, 2004 18:32:39 GMT -5
Latest Georgia Headlines
Nuwaubian members testify on first day of Malachi Yorks defense
The Associated Press - BRUNSWICK, Ga.
Longtime members of Malachi Yorks quasi-religious cult testified Thursday that his accusers were untrustworthy and were known to lie.
I severely, wholeheartedly feel this is a conspiracy between Yorks accusers, said Evelynn Rivera, a member of the United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors since 1977. Theyre all liars. I knew them as children. They all lie.
Rivera and several cult members testified on the opening day of Yorks defense in U.S. District Court, where he is on trial on 13 counts of child molestation and racketeering.
Each of the four members who testified joined the cult in New York between 1973 and 1980. However, three of the four said they were not living at the compound when many of the alleged victims said York molested them.
Samiyra Samad, a registered nurse, joined the cult in 1977 and was responsible for giving children medical examinations and checkups at the Georgia compound between 2000 and 2002. She said she never knew of York molesting any of them.
I am a mother. I would not lie for something like that, Samad said. And I would not lie for him (York).
George Drayton, 60, worked as a security guard for York both in New York and later in Georgia after he moved to the compound in 1998. He also has a 16-year-old son who lives with him at the compound.
Drayton said he lived with York at a house the Nuwaubians own in Athens for about a year in 2000. Other men and women lived in the house but no children, he said.
If they (children) came, they were on a trip, like a field trip, Drayton said. He (York) would take them out to lunch or dinner or something.
Rhea Harris, a member since 1973, had daughters who were friends with two of Yorks accusers, women who have testified they were molested by York and later groomed girls to have sex with him.
Harris said both the accusers were known for untruthfulness.
But Harris said she lives in Florida and has never lived at the Georgia compound.
He (York) could have molested all the children in Eatonton and you wouldnt know it because you never lived in Eatonton, correct? assistant prosecutor Richard Moultry asked Harris.
Harris answered, Correct.
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Post by Master-9 on Jan 15, 2004 22:02:52 GMT -5
From the The UNNM message board:
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:16 pm Post subject: Current Update!!!!
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Greetings,
We have been puting updates up on the board but they get lost in the mix with all of the bickering. So this is another attempt to update everyone on whats happening....
1) Isa Johnson said nothing ever happened. Medical exam gave a normal result showing nothing happened to him . Isa said nothing happened to him. Isa testified that nothing happened. Yet he was listed as an alledged victim - Why? Well anyway - that blew up in their face when the prosecution put Isa on the stand.
2) Medical testimony from their experts sounded crazy. How? Well all of the testimony from their medical experts showed that there is no way to tell if a child has been molested becuase of the healing factor of the human body. Example...96% of molested children return a normal physical exam. ALSO exams from children who arent molested return a normal result. So what is the value of a phisical exam? NO VALUE AT ALL.
3) One alledge victim (no name used to protect her identity) admited to bribing Malachi York. She also admited that her mother abused her. She admited to lying to her mother and sneaking around the land to meet with boys.
4) Jalaine Ward took the stand and admited that she had NO witness that coould say that the transportation from state to state was for the purpose of sexual activity. She also admited that there was ....
NO VIDEO OF YORK MOLESTING ANYONE
NO PICTURES OF ANYONE NUDE WITH YORK
NO PICTURES OF MOLESTATION OF CHILDREN
NO ADULT ON CHILDREN PORNO VIDEO or DVD's FOUND
More to come...we just want to see the faces of those who slandered FALL...
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Post by Master-9 on Jan 15, 2004 22:14:17 GMT -5
Posted on Thu, Jan. 15, 2004
Nuwaubians defend York, say trial 'a conspiracy'
BRUNSWICK - Members of cult leader Malachi York's Nuwaubian Nation testified Thursday that they had never seen him molest children.
Under cross-examination, most admitted they did not know for certain the allegations are untrue because they were not around York all the time, and many didn't even live on the compound during the years the alleged molestations occurred. But one woman specifically said the allegations are a lie.
York, 58, is facing 13 counts of racketeering and transporting children across state lines for sexual purposes.
For more on the trial, see Friday's Telegraph.
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Post by Master-9 on Jan 15, 2004 22:15:19 GMT -5
Posted on Thu, Jan. 15, 2004
York begins defense, calls FBI agent
BRUNSWICK - Attorneys for cult leader Malachi York called the FBI's lead investigator as its first witness today in the York's child molestation and racketeering trial.
Prosecutors objected to the testimony, sparking a three-hour debate over whether a federal law prohibited the agent's testimony. U.S. Attorney Max Wood finally agreed to allow the witness, who is expected to take the stand this afternoon.
York, 58, is facing 13 counts of racketeering and transporting children across state lines for sexual purposes.
For more on the trial, see Friday's Telegraph.
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Post by Master-9 on Jan 15, 2004 22:17:22 GMT -5
For more on the trial, see Friday's Telegraph. All of the sudden they can't put the whole article online? But when they little crying fakers take the stand They print ever thing Yall better wake up  |
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Post by Master-9 on Jan 16, 2004 7:34:49 GMT -5
Nuwaubian members testify York's accusers untrustworthy
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BRUNSWICK, Ga. (AP) -- Longtime members of Malachi York's quasi-religious cult defended their leader in court Thursday, describing York as a father figure and those who accuse him of child molestation as liars.
"I severely, wholeheartedly feel this is a conspiracy" between York's accusers, said Evelyn Rivera, a member of the United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors since 1977. "They're all liars. I knew them as children. They all lie."
Rivera was one of nine Nuwaubian members to testify on the opening day of York's defense in U.S. District Court, where he is being tried on 13 counts of child molestation and racketeering.
Most said they joined York, 58, in New York between 1973 and 1980, when the cult was known as the Ansaru Allah Community. All of them denied any knowledge of York molesting children, but most did not live at the Nuwaubians' Georgia compound when much of the alleged sex occurred.
Samiyra Samad, a registered nurse, joined the cult in 1977 and was responsible for giving children medical examinations and checkups at the rural compound in Eatonton from 2000 to 2002. She said she never knew of York molesting any of them.
"I am a mother. I would not lie for something like that," Samad said. "And I would not lie for him (York)."
Jurors heard from 14 of York's alleged victims, boys and girls, who said York would have sex with them as children and reward them with candy and other gifts. A 16-year-old girl testified York began sodomizing her at age 6.
Defense attorney Adrian Patrick asked each member Thursday about living at the compound, trying to debunk prosecutors' argument that York manipulated his followers into treating him like a god while he kept them in squalor.
Many of the Nuwaubians snickered when Patrick asked if they considered York "to be God or Jesus." They also denied being brainwashed by York.
"He's like a father to all of us," said Raymond Valentine, a Nuwaubian member since 1976.
All said York allowed them to come and go of their own free will and that they had plenty to eat. Some of the alleged victims had said the Nuwaubians had little food.
"You may not have had what you wanted to eat, but there was always plenty of food -- rice, potatoes, fish, chicken, spaghetti," Samad said.
Men said they worked on the compound as carpenters, mechanics and security guards while many women worked at publishing York's religious and philosophical writings. Each said they received no money but were compensated with food and housing.
"I saw there was a lot of peace in a place where there was no peace around," George Drayton, 60, said of his decision to join the cult in New York in 1973. He still lives at the Nuwaubian compound with his wife and 16-year-old son.
Rhea Harris, a member since 1973, had daughters who were friends with two of York's accusers, women who have testified they were molested by York and later groomed girls to have sex with him.
Harris said both the accusers were known for "untruthfulness."
But Harris said she lives in Florida and has never lived at the Georgia compound.
"He (York) could have molested all the children in Eatonton and you wouldn't know it because you never lived in Eatonton, correct?" assistant prosecutor Richard Moultry asked Harris.
"Correct," Harris said.
The father of one of York's accusers, a woman who gave birth to one of York's children at age 17, was also asked whether his daughter could be trusted.
"There are times when she says things that are trustworthy, and other times when it's not the same," the woman's father said. "That's human nature."
The trial was moved 225 miles from Macon to Brunswick because of pretrial publicity.
Over the years, York has incorporated Islam, Judaism, Christianity and space aliens into his teachings. He has unsuccessfully argued he has American Indian heritage and should not be judged by the U.S. court system.
Created: 1/15/2004 6:11:28 PM
Updated: 1/15/2004 7:24:22 PM
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