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Post by Ralph on Mar 11, 2004 14:43:44 GMT -5
just for the record...we definitely are not talking about the same body of ROM. The body I referred to is of the Sovereign Sanctuary for North America and they do not reference anything moorish or claim a Mooorish doctrine. I will say this..moorish science has much to do with masonry and astrology..even if you only look to the Noble Drew Ali for information you will find this is true. Have you ever read his story of the working tools of a master builder? PEACE If I am correct, this is the same organization that Jeff peace was a member of: www.cabinda.net/ssusa-south.htm
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Post by masterofnintharch on Mar 11, 2004 15:06:24 GMT -5
no, it is not the same, and I apologize for incorrectly referencing the governing body..I'll have to dig up my papers and look at the petition. I of course have a petition for Jeff's group as well, but I found the other one to be more intriguing.
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Post by Ralph on Mar 11, 2004 15:34:41 GMT -5
no, it is not the same, and I apologize for incorrectly referencing the governing body..I'll have to dig up my papers and look at the petition. I of course have a petition for Jeff's group as well, but I found the other one to be more intriguing. Hmmm. I know that Jeff was discussing opening the ROM to PH masons. That is what caught my eye on this site. I will wait for you to dig up your papers, but what lodge do you belong to? The pre-reqs state that you have to be a mason from a regular GL.
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Post by masterofnintharch on Mar 12, 2004 15:06:44 GMT -5
I belong to Enterprise Lodge #31 under the state jurisdiction of the Most Ancient and Honorable Society of Masons of NJ F&AM in Jersey City, NJ. Hmmm. I know that Jeff was discussing opening the ROM to PH masons. That is what caught my eye on this site. I will wait for you to dig up your papers, but what lodge do you belong to? The pre-reqs state that you have to be a mason from a regular GL.
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Post by Ralph on Mar 12, 2004 15:18:51 GMT -5
I had a very close friend who was the Master of Friendship#44. He owned Coles Pharmacy and passed away two years ago. His name was Kevin Walton. Do you know Leslie(Hook) Green?
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Post by masterofnintharch on Mar 14, 2004 10:16:29 GMT -5
I'm familiar with Friendship Lodge (it used to be a Valley for the Scottish Rite), and I even know a few sisters from the chapter there. However, I cannot say for certain that I know anyone named Leslie (Hook) Green. I might have seen him by face, but I cannot say that he is one of my associates. Jersey City has several lodges including International, F&AM, PHA and a clandestine Spanish speaking Grand Lodge. It is an interesting mix with an old world feel as many brothers still walk to lodge in the nieghborhood under the moonlight as they did in the days of old. And as for Prince Hall brothers...well you know, when you do really, really good ritual...they always compare you to Prince Hall. LOL! Got much love for you brothers. PEACE PEACE I had a very close friend who was the Master of Friendship#44. He owned Coles Pharmacy and passed away two years ago. His name was Kevin Walton. Do you know Leslie(Hook) Green?
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Post by masterofnintharch on Mar 15, 2004 18:08:42 GMT -5
new jersey freemasons
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Post by Ralph on Mar 18, 2004 14:01:42 GMT -5
I'm familiar with Friendship Lodge (it used to be a Valley for the Scottish Rite), and I even know a few sisters from the chapter there. However, I cannot say for certain that I know anyone named Leslie (Hook) Green. I might have seen him by face, but I cannot say that he is one of my associates. Jersey City has several lodges including International, F&AM, PHA and a clandestine Spanish speaking Grand Lodge. It is an interesting mix with an old world feel as many brothers still walk to lodge in the nieghborhood under the moonlight as they did in the days of old. And as for Prince Hall brothers...well you know, when you do really, really good ritual...they always compare you to Prince Hall. LOL! Got much love for you brothers. PEACE PEACE Thanks for the compliments my brother. I do not know if you are a member of the Scottish Rite Research Society, but here is an interesting article for all. Every year they issue their transactions. There are some very interesting articles... www.srmason-sj.org/web/heredom-files/volume9/Memphis.pdf
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Post by GodSun57 on Apr 18, 2004 21:29:44 GMT -5
The Illuminati has been very deceptive in concealing the Supreme Knowledge of the Ancients.
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Post by Ralph on Apr 18, 2004 23:54:30 GMT -5
The Illuminati has been very deceptive in concealing the Supreme Knowledge of the Ancients. Tell us how....
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Post by masterofnintharch on Apr 28, 2004 13:45:34 GMT -5
Jeff Peace is in the latest issue of Fourth PArt of a Circle Magazine explaining the Order of the Golden Rosy Cross.
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Post by Ralph on Apr 28, 2004 13:52:05 GMT -5
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Post by masterofnintharch on Apr 29, 2004 8:21:46 GMT -5
yeah I'm aware of all that...and I have no interest in Jeff's Memphis Order...I got all those degrees from Kessinger Publishing and officially from the Grand Collge of Rites. Even his Rosicrucian styled Order is a copy of the Germanic Order of the Rosy Cross of Gold that inspired the Golden Dawn and others.
However...I am impartial and not so quick to judge...I know alot of people who take that masonic info stuff wiht a grain of salt. Nelson King has an apparent personal gripe with Jeff Peace...and it's all good...but I'm not gonna feed into it. I love alot of Nelson King's writings, and I agree with him...but the masonicinfo page gets a bit dismissive and rubs me as being almost profanely exoteric in its handling of certain matters. In any case...I know that Jeff has his enemies...but he also appears to have supporters...evidenced by his appearance in such an esteemed masonic publication.
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Post by Ralph on Apr 29, 2004 12:41:49 GMT -5
yeah I'm aware of all that...and I have no interest in Jeff's Memphis Order...I got all those degrees from Kessinger Publishing and officially from the Grand Collge of Rites. Even his Rosicrucian styled Order is a copy of the Germanic Order of the Rosy Cross of Gold that inspired the Golden Dawn and others. However...I am impartial and not so quick to judge...I know alot of people who take that masonic info stuff wiht a grain of salt. Nelson King has an apparent personal gripe with Jeff Peace...and it's all good...but I'm not gonna feed into it. I love alot of Nelson King's writings, and I agree with him...but the masonicinfo page gets a bit dismissive and rubs me as being almost profanely exoteric in its handling of certain matters. In any case...I know that Jeff has his enemies...but he also appears to have supporters...evidenced by his appearance in such an esteemed masonic publication. Nelson and Ed King are good brothers. Jeff has rubbed somebody real worng, but time heals all wounds. Nelson is a personal friend of mine. We have broke bread many times....
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Post by masterofnintharch on Apr 29, 2004 17:53:49 GMT -5
u r so right my brother
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