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[wispersinthewind]

MR. SONIC MASTER ELOWWWWWWWWW

RA IS THE SUN RISEN.

KAH KAH POOP POOP SAYS.....Israel, Israel -> is-ra-el ? A question is being posed here. Is the aegiptian deity Ra an Eloh ?

According to the Aegiptian system, Ra was the SUN GOD. This was the same title held by Y'shua ben Yosef. According to Y'shua' own admission, he wasnt an El but rather a Ben'el (Son or Sun of El). In concluding thru the result of the word technology I applied, Ra is NOT AN EL.

I will build more on this at a later time.

[kAHANyAH]

Unfortunately those are my words quoted by the poster but I haven't the foggiest why it was placed in the nuwaubian section. It should have remained in the metaphysics forum. I am not responsible for that THE DIVINE SOUL OF PEACE. 1dell did create this section for the nuwaubian fam., and others who are willing to collaborate with 'em and I can tell you I respect that and won't take this part of the board out of its intended contxt. I cannot speak for everyone though.

Maybe you should take it up with 1dell the head admin. and NAR co-sysop to address this.

Wadu.

THE said:

This is why fuckin 1dell can't have a Nuwaubu newsgroup.. fuckin tom.. got all these toms on here fuckin up the science.

[NAR]

Peace to you whisperinthewind

Yes i agree that the phrase Is Ra El is issuing a question(??). As in the interrogative, What is this or that?

According to English syntax, Is Ra El? is a basic pattern for a complete thought (sentence). However this interogative can be transposed into a declarative statement that equates RA with EL in a form of to be(huwa) ending with a period: Ra is El or El is Ra. The question naturally answers itself.

Is Ra EL?

Ra is El.

Ra and El are mirrored to reflect infinity for the R and L are puns in Nuwaubik.

Ra|aL

So, Ra = aL

Ra(Khem) and aL(Shem)

Moreover, the form of BE may be placed at the end of the sentence to say Ra El is. This may be complemented with another form of "to be," I AM that renders an affirmation: Ra El is I Am. This has the same implications as the thought: All is I Am.

Istathbaat(Affirmation)

I am in the love of all and all love is me
I am part of all and all is part of me
I am one with all and all is one with me
I can succeed as a part of all and fail as an individual
I can be all that I wish in all as long as my wish is to stay in all
I am never alone
All is I am
All can I can
All does I do

wispersinthewind said:

MR. SONIC MASTER ELOWWWWWWWWW

RA IS THE SUN RISEN.

KAH KAH POOP POOP SAYS.....Israel, Israel -> is-ra-el ? A question is being posed here. Is the aegiptian deity Ra an Eloh ?

According to the Aegiptian system, Ra was the SUN GOD. This was the same title held by Y'shua ben Yosef. According to Y'shua' own admission, he wasnt an El but rather a Ben'el (Son or Sun of El). In concluding thru the result of the word technology I applied, Ra is NOT AN EL.

I will build more on this at a later time.

[kAHANyAH]

Interesting take you've proposed here NAR. I feel at liberty now to further the discourse here. I mean after all, you're the co-sysop .

If you re-arrange the order of the deities in the word does it not change the nature of it's alchemy and may possibly distract from truth and even lead to err. Originally, the word is set forth to pose the question : IS RA an EL ? There is a procession or hierachy given and you can see this in the order of deity sequence in the word. If we were to alter that to something like , RA IS EL or EL IS RA the logic becomes skewed.

Take for instance the following ex. I see a tiger at the local zoo. However, because of my lack of knowledge in discerning animals, I mistaken it for a lion. But for assurance' sake, I decide to pose the question, IS THAT A LION ? Would it be permissible and lawful for one to use the logic you've demonstrated in your post as such : THAT IS A LION. Notice I did exactly what you did. But we both know it is incorrect to conclude this way. In fact, the TRUTH of the matter is it isn't a lion and rather a tiger.

A brief recap on the history of Ra when translated into the hebrew pantheons. Ra also known as the Sun god was symbolized by the person known to us as Y'shua ben Yosef. Sun and Son are equivalents. Y'shua claimed to be a Sun/Son and went even further to say that he was a SUN OF GOD or a SON OF EL. When you translate this into the hebrew its Beni Elohiym (El). Ra isn't an El, rather the SUN/SON of an El.

The Beni Elohiym is a class of Angelic beings which consists of SERAPHIYM. The aegiptian RA is the hebrew SERAPHIYM.
Peace.

NAR said:

Peace to you whisperinthewind

Yes i agree that the phrase Is Ra El is issuing a question(??). As in the interrogative, What is this or that?

According to English syntax, Is Ra El? is a basic pattern for a complete thought (sentence). However this interogative can be transposed into a declarative statement that equates RA with EL in a form of to be(huwa) ending with a period: Ra is El or El is Ra. The question naturally answers itself.

Is Ra EL?

Ra is El.

Ra and El are mirrored to reflect infinity for the R and L are puns in Nuwaubik.

Ra|aL

So, Ra = aL

Ra(Khem) and aL(Shem)

Moreover, the form of BE may be placed at the end of the sentence to say Ra El is. This may be complemented with another form of "to be," I AM that renders an affirmation: Ra El is I Am. This has the same implications as the thought: All is I Am.

Istathbaat(Affirmation)

I am in the love of all and all love is me
I am part of all and all is part of me
I am one with all and all is one with me
I can succeed as a part of all and fail as an individual
I can be all that I wish in all as long as my wish is to stay in all
I am never alone
All is I am
All can I can
All does I do

[NuwaupianHotep]

NAR said:

Peace to you whisperinthewind

Yes i agree that the phrase Is Ra El is issuing a question(??). As in the interrogative, What is this or that?

According to English syntax, Is Ra El? is a basic pattern for a complete thought (sentence). However this interogative can be transposed into a declarative statement that equates RA with EL in a form of to be(huwa) ending with a period: Ra is El or El is Ra. The question naturally answers itself.

Is Ra EL?

Ra is El.

Ra and El are mirrored to reflect infinity for the R and L are puns in Nuwaubik.

Ra|aL

So, Ra = aL

Ra(Khem) and aL(Shem)

Moreover, the form of BE may be placed at the end of the sentence to say Ra El is. This may be complemented with another form of "to be," I AM that renders an affirmation: Ra El is I Am. This has the same implications as the thought: All is I Am.

Istathbaat(Affirmation)

I am in the love of all and all love is me
I am part of all and all is part of me
I am one with all and all is one with me
I can succeed as a part of all and fail as an individual
I can be all that I wish in all as long as my wish is to stay in all
I am never alone
All is I am
All can I can
All does I do

Muntaz...!! Entuk Karut Muntaz Darus!

[NuwaupianHotep]

kAHANyAH said:

Interesting take you've proposed here NAR. I feel at liberty now to further the discourse here. I mean after all, you're the co-sysop .

If you re-arrange the order of the deities in the word does it not change the nature of it's alchemy and may possibly distract from truth and even lead to err. Originally, the word is set forth to pose the question : IS RA an EL ? There is a procession or hierachy given and you can see this in the order of deity sequence in the word. If we were to alter that to something like , RA IS EL or EL IS RA the logic becomes skewed.

Take for instance the following ex. I see a tiger at the local zoo. However, because of my lack of knowledge in discerning animals, I mistaken it for a lion. But for assurance' sake, I decide to pose the question, IS THAT A LION ? Would it be permissible and lawful for one to use the logic you've demonstrated in your post as such : THAT IS A LION. Notice I did exactly what you did. But we both know it is incorrect to conclude this way. In fact, the TRUTH of the matter is it isn't a lion and rather a tiger.

A brief recap on the history of Ra when translated into the hebrew pantheons. Ra also known as the Sun god was symbolized by the person known to us as Y'shua ben Yosef. Sun and Son are equivalents. Y'shua claimed to be a Sun/Son and went even further to say that he was a SUN OF GOD or a SON OF EL. When you translate this into the hebrew its Beni Elohiym (El). Ra isn't an El, rather the SUN/SON of an El.

The Beni Elohiym is a class of Angelic beings which consists of SERAPHIYM. The aegiptian RA is the hebrew SERAPHIYM.
Peace.

EXCELLENT THESIS AS WELL KAH.. BUT CAN THE ETYMOLOGY OF SUN AND SON BE THE SAME..?

THE WORD SON CAME ABOUT DUE TO THE PASSING OF "LIGHT" OR LIFE..

[NuwaupianHotep]

I'M SORRY, BUT I FIND IT INSULTING THAT WHEN YOU GUYS REFERENCE HEBREW YOU USE TERMS THAT ARE "ORIGINAL" TO THE HEBREW LANGUAGE AND CULTURE EX: Y'shua ben Yosef, BUT WHEN YOU WRITE ABOUT TA-MERI YOU SAY "AEGYPTIAN". THIS IS AN INSULT.

IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TERM TA-MERI, TA-SETI, OR TA-NUSHI.. THEN SAY KMT, OR KEMIT, OR EVEN KARMIT. BUT TO SAY AEGYPTIAN A GREEK TERM PUTS A SHADOW UPON YOUR LOGIC.. IT INDICATES THAT WHATEVER YOUR POINT IS.. IT'S MOST LIKELY COMING FROM THE DARK AND BACKWARD EUROCENTRIC PERSPECTIVE.

[kAHANyAH]

There is a verse where Christ is referred to as the "SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS". I will get it for you and post it.

NUWAUBIAN said:

EXCELLENT THESIS AS WELL KAH.. BUT CAN THE ETYMOLOGY OF SUN AND SON BE THE SAME..?

THE WORD SON CAME ABOUT DUE TO THE PASSING OF "LIGHT" OR LIFE..

[kAHANyAH]

My bad on that Nuwaubian_htp. I will refrain from using the "Aegiptian" term in this section of the board. Its a habit but I'll break it.

NUWAUBIAN said:

I'M SORRY, BUT I FIND IT INSULTING THAT WHEN YOU GUYS REFERENCE HEBREW YOU USE TERMS THAT ARE "ORIGINAL" TO THE HEBREW LANGUAGE AND CULTURE EX: Y'shua ben Yosef, BUT WHEN YOU WRITE ABOUT TA-MERI YOU SAY "AEGYPTIAN". THIS IS AN INSULT.

IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TERM TA-MERI, TA-SETI, OR TA-NUSHI.. THEN SAY KMT, OR KEMIT, OR EVEN KARMIT. BUT TO SAY AEGYPTIAN A GREEK TERM PUTS A SHADOW UPON YOUR LOGIC.. IT INDICATES THAT WHATEVER YOUR POINT IS.. IT'S MOST LIKELY COMING FROM THE DARK AND BACKWARD EUROCENTRIC PERSPECTIVE.

[NAR]

Nefer Liyya Antuk!

KAH:

If you re-arrange the order of the deities in the word does it not change the nature of it's alchemy and may possibly distract from truth and even lead to err. Originally, the word is set forth to pose the question : IS RA an EL ? There is a procession or hierachy given and you can see this in the order of deity sequence in the word. If we were to alter that to something like , RA IS EL or EL IS RA the logic becomes skewed.

NAR:

Alchemy, Al Kem or Ra Kem (Rakim) literally means to know or to behold the mystery. For "Al" means to know and "Kem" means mystery. I addressed the first interrogative statement “Is Ra El?” and not the follow up quest-ion “Is the aegiptian diety Ra an eloh?” The mystery question stated: Is Ra El? By permuting (a discipline called in cabalah Tamara or Tama-re) the rudiments of the mystery question to its declarative form “Ra is El,” nullifies the mystery and thus has the potential to be an affirmation as in the imperative or command statement: “Ra El is, I am!” “IS” is a form of “BE(huwa).” So, the reasoning is not skewed nor is their ambiguity here because the mystery question (Is Ra El?) has an intimate response (Ra is El.), which in-turn is affirmed imperatively by the command: “Ra El is, I am!” The primary function of the quest(ion) is for self to step aside and let the absolute know itself through itself.

Is Ra El?
Ra is El.
Ra El is, I am!

KAH:

Take for instance the following ex. I see a tiger at the local zoo. However, because of my lack of knowledge in discerning animals, I mistaken it for a lion. But for assurance' sake, I decide to pose the question, IS THAT A LION ? Would it be permissible and lawful for one to use the logic you've demonstrated in your post as such : THAT IS A LION. Notice I did exactly what you did. But we both know it is incorrect to conclude this way. In fact, the TRUTH of the matter is it isn't a lion and rather a tiger.

NAR:

To have NO knowledge of something or self is ignorance. However, Nuwaubu teaches us to know, to see and to behold knowledge. This is contrary to possessing knowledge. To know or to behold self is to aware of , sure of or familiar with something through contemplation, meditation and experience. This requires a life long ontology. There are three tests to beholding knowledge: Experience, Experiment and Reason. However, the test of experience is not always practical for all ontologists because there is always more than one way to accomplish a thing. Truth is one, path is many. The inquiry “Is Ra El?” answers itself declaritively (Ra is El) and affirms itself imperatively (Ra El is, I am!). The words La and Na are extants of Ra, which means to see, to behold or to know (know = 63 = 6+3 = 9). The letters L/R/N are puns in Nuwaubik. SEEING is KNOWING as RA is EL. Do you follow? The Pilgrim, the Pilgramage, the Ideal path are but a quest from self to self.

… They (the firdt true men) were good people, handsome with looks of the male kind. Thoughts came into existence and they gazed; their vision came all at once. Perfectly they SAW, perfectly they KNEW everything under the sky, whenever they looked…—Popol vuh (council papers) chapter 4.

KAH:

A brief recap on the history of Ra when translated into the hebrew pantheons. Ra also known as the Sun god was symbolized by the person known to us as Y'shua ben Yosef. Sun and Son are equivalents. Y'shua claimed to be a Sun/Son and went even further to say that he was a SUN OF GOD or a SON OF EL. When you translate this into the hebrew its Beni Elohiym (El). Ra isn't an El, rather the SUN/SON of an El.

The Beni Elohiym is a class of Angelic beings which consists of SERAPHIYM. The aegiptian RA is the hebrew SERAPHIYM.

NAR:

The saga of Y’shua ben Yosef can be found in the Cefer Ha ‘Asher (The scroll of the Prince) and he is known as Abram the son of Terah and Amthelo( chapter 7 and 8). We learn that, the Abram’s name was later alchemised to Abraham or Ab-Ra-Cham. I use the hebrew letter CHET for it means life. Also CHET is the Temarian word for “that which decays,” Khat. For example, Uranium decays into radioactive Helium that accumulates in the atmosphere up to a period of 241 200 years (67 Sars). As you can see, Ab-Ra-Cham is the archetype for christianity's trinity: Ab (father), Ra (the sun) and Cham (Heat, holy spirit), literally “The Father is the Sun that Heats (and ignites the blood with Spirit).” The ruler or king is obviously the Son/daughter of the Sun (Tama-Re).

Hotep Liyya Antuk!
9 x 13

[kAHANyAH]

NAR..., IS RA EL cannot be affirmed by RA IS EL. If you declare that RA is an Eloh you're gonna have to give me some writing that says this.

Also, I AM (Iah) and EL aren't the same titles.


Peace.

[NAR]

In the Book of going forth by day-prmhrw- (commonly referred to as the egiptian book of the dead), chapter 85, the chapter of transforming into Tum, states in part:

… I am Ra, who came from Nu … I am Hu …

The question Is RA EL? was affirmed by the command RA EL is, I am! I am Hu, I am Ra. Recall that Ra and El are reflexes.

Ra is La, AL and EL

Hu is Hoo

EL + Hoo = Elhoo, Elhu or simply Eloh. As you read and look at hebrew or aramaic you are effectively reading the metu neter (words of god). For example, the semetic attribute YHWH ELHYM is an extant of the kemetic words Hu and Ra.

I am eternal, I am ra ... I am that which created the word ... I am the word...

Hotep Liyya Antuk

kAHANyAH said:

NAR..., IS RA EL cannot be affirmed by RA IS EL. If you declare that RA is an Eloh you're gonna have to give me some writing that says this.

Also, I AM (Iah) and EL aren't the same titles.


Peace.

[kAHANyAH]

If you were to inverse the statement [IS RA EL] to : RA EL IS then it becomes too ambiguous without a declaritive. Ra el is... WHAT ? You force the reader to ask you that because the cipher on the title is incomplete. It makes us venture into spookism or what christians worship. ie, ghost or 6 aether gas (mystery divinity). El is a deffinitive, identifiable attribute, unlike the term - I AM that I AM which leaves room for any to peg on what have you and then sum.

Ra is not a reflex of El unless you stretch it and if you do then you can stretch it to any form you want. After all, all tones are interconnected at some pt. We are in a reality that begs deffinition so you dont wanna stretch too far into oblivion.

I am going into redundancy mode here so forgive me for the re-iteration... RA is the SUN deity. El is the FATHER deity.

Peace.

NAR said:

In the Book of going forth by day (commonly referred to as the egiptian book of the dead), chapter 85, the chapter of transforming into Tum, states in part:

… I am Ra, who came from Nu … I am Hu …

The question Is RA EL? was affirmed by the command RA EL is, I am! I am Hu, I am Ra. Recall that Ra and El are reflexes.

Ra is La, AL and EL

Hu is Hoo

EL + Hoo = Elhoo, Elhu or simply Eloh. As you read and look at hebrew or aramaic you are effectively reading the metu neter (words of god). For example, the semetic attribute YHWH ELHYM is an extant of the kemetic words Hu and Ra.

I am eternal, I am ra ... I am that which created the word ... I am the word...

Hotep Liyya Antuk

[wispersinthewind]

thats why the scriptures say GOD/OR RA IS the alpha and omega because someones alpha and omega is different from anothers and their is a tone of infinity with that statement.

And because most people cant remember their birth or who directed their birth all worship goes back to the creator who does remember their birth and death.

kAHANyAH said:

If you were to inverse the statement [IS RA EL] to : RA EL IS then it becomes too ambiguous without a declaritive. Ra el is... WHAT ? You force the reader to ask you that because the cipher on the title is incomplete. It makes us venture into spookism or what christians worship. ie, ghost or 6 aether gas (mystery divinity). El is a deffinitive, identifiable attribute, unlike the term - I AM that I AM which leaves room for any to peg on what have you and then sum.

Ra is not a reflex of El unless you stretch it and if you do then you can stretch it to any form you want. After all, all tones are interconnected at some pt. We are in a reality that begs deffinition so you dont wanna stretch too far into oblivion.

I am going into redundancy mode here so forgive me for the re-iteration... RA is the SUN deity. El is the FATHER deity.

Peace.

[NAR]

Hotep Liyya Antuk Sena

I could has just as well stated:

Ra El is ... Who?

Who(old English Hwa or Hua) is directly Hu (I am) that became the tetragrammaton: YHWH (hayah, who is). It was misinterpreted as Lord. As a reflection, YHWH is HUHI or Hu, Hu. Remarkably it sounds like the expelling of Breath.

Ra El is, I am (Hu)!

Hu is the personification of divine breath. With each divine breath, their is a perpetual renewal of the world. The alpha and the omega mentioned in the Book of revelations is but Hu, Hu where and when creation returns to itself (who ever that may be). There is no beginning nor is there an ending to creation.

Surely to your Lord is the return.--Quraan, Sura 96, Aya 8


9x13

kAHANyAH said:

If you were to inverse the statement [IS RA EL] to : RA EL IS then it becomes too ambiguous without a declaritive. Ra el is... WHAT ? You force the reader to ask you that because the cipher on the title is incomplete. It makes us venture into spookism or what christians worship. ie, ghost or 6 aether gas (mystery divinity). El is a deffinitive, identifiable attribute, unlike the term - I AM that I AM which leaves room for any to peg on what have you and then sum.

Ra is not a reflex of El unless you stretch it and if you do then you can stretch it to any form you want. After all, all tones are interconnected at some pt. We are in a reality that begs deffinition so you dont wanna stretch too far into oblivion.

I am going into redundancy mode here so forgive me for the re-iteration... RA is the SUN deity. El is the FATHER deity.

Peace.