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Post by 1dell on Jul 12, 2004 9:14:52 GMT -5
dayum, now I need a drink. Its hard for me to express in simplicity how my mind sorts out spiritual mechanics because of prejudices and pre-conceptions and adamant religious beliefs I encounter. My mind ZigZagZigs when I process spiritual principles, verses and writs I come across in holy writings. The entire bible is layed out this way. Look at a car's engine. it has many components. There are dangerous parts when left to themselves and there are weak subtle parts when left to themselves. However all working in unison to get the car to run. Its the same universal law we find in the bible. The bible is a car or chariot or Mekahvah which if we get our mind to conform to we can drive our thoughts ever so god-ward. The concept of homosexuality is part of humanity and has a function [ref., gen 19]. The function is to bring an end to an epoch or age. The holy ghost serves the same purpose. Its not a coincidence while the world is at the brink of annihilation with the iraq and terrorism situation and sure enuf the hottest topic in americana is GAY MARRIAGE! OMG! GAYS MARRY!! Uhhhh see a connection ? Try again , GAYYYY and MARY or GAbriel and Mary  . Get it ? Anyhow... I could go into the details and elucidate exactly how the holy ghost is based on the law of Sodom but I'd rather refrain from doing so. I do however drop some tid bits - [ gabriel -> Gay <-- briel ], using the law of sound called psonix to decode some of the hidden mysteries. But thats all good. The tid bit is suppose to trigger or cue you on to expand your mind; a thought provocateur. If its for ya so be it! if not, so be it! |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jul 12, 2004 9:20:09 GMT -5
"Its hard for me to express in simplicity how my mind sorts out spiritual mechanics because of prejudices and pre-conceptions and adamant religious beliefs I encounter." Expand yo mind bruh.  dayum, now I need a drink. |
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Post by gamaliel on Jul 12, 2004 22:07:23 GMT -5
Anav got me thinking something Mutabaraka (rastapoet) said last summer about the Trinity. He was one of the performers at the annual Carribbean festival held in Chicago every 4th of july weekend. He said the original Trinity was Osiris (Father), Horus (Son) and Isis (Holy Ghost). He claimed the church made the Holy Ghost masculine and made Mary a seperate person! Which is strange cause Rasta teaching isnt based on any Khemetian knowledge at all and their GOD Haile Selassie name means POWER OF THE TRINITY. Sum folks claim that Wisdom in the Bible is a hidden female deity named Sophia. They often refer to Proverbs for that theory.
1dell and Baal you both bought forth good points that I never considered. I know Some Muslims recognize Gabriel to be the Holy Spirit due to surahs 2:97, 16:102 and 26:193. Is there any hadith or Jewish commentary identifying the Holy Spirit as Gabriel. I know Christians reject that altogether.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jul 13, 2004 9:15:32 GMT -5
I will look in my Zohar to find some ref., but its gonna take me some time. Zohar is a large collection of jewish mystical writings. In the mean time, taking the trinity into consideration we can look at the word IS-RA-EL - ISis as the holy ghost, RA as Christ and EL is the father. Then we have the triad of arcs - MIKAEL, RAPHAEL, GABRIEL. We can interpret the three to be Father, son and ghost. Gabriel as the ghost to visit and impregnate Mary, then we have RAphael or RA the son and Michael the father. Iesous [jesus] was the embodiment of all three. Anav got me thinking something Mutabaraka (rastapoet) said last summer about the Trinity. He was one of the performers at the annual Carribbean festival held in Chicago every 4th of july weekend. He said the original Trinity was Osiris (Father), Horus (Son) and Isis (Holy Ghost). He claimed the church made the Holy Ghost masculine and made Mary a seperate person! Which is strange cause Rasta teaching isnt based on any Khemetian knowledge at all and their GOD Haile Selassie name means POWER OF THE TRINITY. Sum folks claim that Wisdom in the Bible is a hidden female deity named Sophia. They often refer to Proverbs for that theory. 1dell and Baal you both bought forth good points that I never considered. I know Some Muslims recognize Gabriel to be the Holy Spirit due to surahs 2:97, 16:102 and 26:193. Is there any hadith or Jewish commentary identifying the Holy Spirit as Gabriel. I know Christians reject that altogether. |
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Post by Ahab on Jul 13, 2004 15:36:28 GMT -5
...taking the trinity into consideration we can look at the word IS-RA-EL - ISis as the holy ghost, RA as Christ and EL is the father. Then we have the triad of arcs - MIKAEL, RAPHAEL, GABRIEL. We can interpret the three to be Father, son and ghost. Gabriel as the ghost to visit and impregnate Mary, then we have RAphael or RA the son and Michael the father. Iesous [jesus] was the embodiment of all three.  |
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Post by Ahab on Jul 13, 2004 15:43:00 GMT -5
I meditated on blaspheming spirit and this is what I came up with... When I read the acct. in Mark one thing that stands out is the comparison between the work of Be-el-ze-bub and that of the spirit of G-d, that is their power to cast out devils. It is in that contxt. Ieshua reveals a mystery to us, the mystery of the holy ghost and forgiveness. What we are dealing with here is a proto type spirit vs. counter-feit, both having the power to cast out. However the original has something over the copy. Ieshua was accused of casting out devilish spirits by the power of BeelZebub. However he denied it and claimed it was done with the spirit of G-d. Here is where it gets tricky and shows why its important to read all gospels that speak on a particular parable. We must goto luke to get the understanding of why when one blasphemes against the entity called the holy ghost, there is no forgiveness. In luke 24th chp. it speaks of casting out spirits and the power of beel-ze-bub . However in luke it introduces the concept of what happens after devilish spirits are dispelled. Lets analyze, - Luk 11:24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
- Luk 11:25 And when he cometh, he findeth [it] swept and garnished.
- Luk 11:26 Then goeth he, and taketh [to him] seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last [state] of that man is worse than the first.
Here is the mystery and why its important not to slander the entity called the holy ghost. Both Belzebub and the spirit of G-d can dispell spirits. However the spirit of G-d has an advantage over the belzebub prince of the devils. Once the host [corpus/human body] is rid of unclean spirits, it becomes empty or void. Thats the key in the luke verse [vs. 25 And when he cometh, he findeth [it] swept and garnished]. And both Belzebub and the spirit of G-d have the power to effect this quote/unquote majik we just read in that verse. BUT... In order to prevent these same unclean spirits from returning or re-entering the body, it must be filled up thus preventing the re-possession. This is where the holy ghost comes in. What do humans need to fill up the space where the unclean spirits once inhabited and stave off these elements from coming back ? The holy ghost fills up the space inside the empty shell where unclean spirits lurk and take shelter. There is no other force strong enuf to fill up the human shell to ward off these unclean spirits except the holy ghost. Only the spirit of G-d can adjure the holy ghost into a human body. Belzebub cannot command the holy ghost. Because of this he fails at securing the majik of casting out. Though he casts out, what can he replace in the shell to prevent those same unclean spirits from re-entering ? NOTHING. Therefor his kingdom is divided against itself. If you blaspheme against the holy ghost then she [she is an entity] will refuse from entering you and filling you up (this is where the concept "being filled with the holy ghost" stems from) to block off the unclean spirits from coming back. As a result, what is expressed in Luke occurs with you. You are swept and garnished inside from the casting out of spirits but you have nothing to fill up this empty space. Now the same unclean spirit will bring with him 7 more spirits deadlier then himself and enter you. You are condemned based on the numerology used here - SEVEN. I will touch on that in another post. There is no forgiveness for you. She has decided not to enter you and left your fate in the hands of these seven. The holy ghost is the arc angel GABRIEL. What gabriel fills your corpus womb with is a babe [babylon - babe called lon called elyon]. But thats a whole nother subject itself!!!  Very interesting breakdown! |
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Post by 1dell on Jul 15, 2004 7:33:38 GMT -5
Gamaliel, Sophia is the greek word for wisdom so thats where that comes from but she already had a hebrew name since Khokmah. That doctine is just the remake of ancient wisdom. As for G'bri'al being the holy spirit, that's not truth at all. Not according to scriptures. Anav got me thinking something Mutabaraka (rastapoet) said last summer about the Trinity. He was one of the performers at the annual Carribbean festival held in Chicago every 4th of july weekend. He said the original Trinity was Osiris (Father), Horus (Son) and Isis (Holy Ghost). He claimed the church made the Holy Ghost masculine and made Mary a seperate person! Which is strange cause Rasta teaching isnt based on any Khemetian knowledge at all and their GOD Haile Selassie name means POWER OF THE TRINITY. Sum folks claim that Wisdom in the Bible is a hidden female deity named Sophia. They often refer to Proverbs for that theory. 1dell and Baal you both bought forth good points that I never considered. I know Some Muslims recognize Gabriel to be the Holy Spirit due to surahs 2:97, 16:102 and 26:193. Is there any hadith or Jewish commentary identifying the Holy Spirit as Gabriel. I know Christians reject that altogether. |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jul 15, 2004 9:22:05 GMT -5
The spell of Ghost [gospel] called Ga-bri-el...
I had shown in an earlier posting how the number 6ix [six], however it is encoded in scripture signifies the power of ghost - born of 6 aether. At the 6th hr. darkness fell upon Ieshua as he remained impaled on the cross [ref., Matt 27.45]. In the 6th hr. Peter during his prayer is told a lie via vision [television] how me must eat falling unclean animals from the sky (rep. of fallen angels) [ref., Acts 10.9].
Let us now look at gabriel , author of the spell of ghost (6). Luk 1:26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, Now ask yourself this question, do you think these numbers are arbitrarily chosen. Is this repetive "6" a coincidence ? Of course not!
Can you call this a coincidence also ? Luk 1:36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren. This is the angel Gabriel telling Mary her cousin is also with a blessed child. There goes that number six again! Gabriel, ghost and the power of 6IX go hand in hand .
More to come.
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Post by gamaliel on Jul 15, 2004 20:40:27 GMT -5
you got this on your own right? not from the israeli church? they teach the same thing?
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jul 15, 2004 20:51:23 GMT -5
All on my own bruh. The israeli church didnt go into the mystical aspect of sacred scripts. and they definitely dont teach this form of knowledge. Its considered "heresy". Peace. you got this on your own right? not from the israeli church? they teach the same thing?
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Post by 1dell on Jul 16, 2004 6:38:02 GMT -5
Hell no they don't teach that ish. In fact I have to move this post to the Ysra'alism section now because according to the true purpose of this christianity forum we are supposed to be coming from the doctrine within scripture NOT this "I sat in the basement sipping on Hynotiq and wine while smoking a spliff while flipping thru the Urantia and this ish just came to me." type ish. you got this on your own right? not from the israeli church? they teach the same thing? |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jul 16, 2004 8:23:02 GMT -5
Give that ish a rest bruham without cheese. All that I have said come from scripture . The problem is my *interpretation* and your *interpretation* just dont jibe.
But let me guess, yours is right, right ?
You know what they say about peeps who think theyre always right and everyone else is wrong, dont ya ?
Hell no they don't teach that ish. In fact I have to move this post to the Ysra'alism section now because according to the true purpose of this christianity forum we are supposed to be coming from the doctrine within scripture NOT this "I sat in the basement sipping on Hynotiq and wine while smoking a spliff while flipping thru the Urantia and this ish just came to me." type ish. |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jul 16, 2004 8:26:39 GMT -5
And another god damn thang!!! who made u my spokesman!  Hell no they don't teach that ish. In fact I have to move this post to the Ysra'alism section now because according to the true purpose of this christianity forum we are supposed to be coming from the doctrine within scripture NOT this "I sat in the basement sipping on Hynotiq and wine while smoking a spliff while flipping thru the Urantia and this ish just came to me." type ish. |
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Post by 1dell on Jul 16, 2004 10:14:42 GMT -5
Nigga I know you aint trynna wrestle!!! And another god damn thang!!! who made u my spokesman! |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jul 16, 2004 11:41:56 GMT -5
Nigga I know you aint trynna wrestle!!!
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