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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 4, 2004 18:00:25 GMT -5
dunno if you can, but i can sho fry one wit some good bbq sauce !  |
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Post by Zakiah Levanah on Jun 4, 2004 18:33:12 GMT -5
See! this is the shizzle I be speaking of... 1dell says : One deals with the flesh of man the other deals with the Behavior of man. Im like wtf! you behavior is how you express your personality thru your flesh!! For instance molestation. Most molestors have a strong attraction in their flesh to little kids. So G-d creates a law called fornication to motify that craving in the flesh. Damn 1dell! you makin this too ez for me to debunk yo punk ass!  . OMG  "For instance molestation. Most molestors have a strong attraction in their flesh to little kids." That was a bad analogy lol. I only pick at you because you even have me going along with you because you are so adament and sure of your argument and the bold type and then womp womp womp. ;D Unless you believe the mind and flesh is one then maybe it will fly. Me not being a molester but a sensual being usually use senses, like sight, smell even touch which I then process through my mind and then become stimulated. More carnal beings like animals or molesters I'd assume the process would be a direct reaction physically (flesh) but it would still be a behavioral type thing. Unless it was involuntary like a spasm then we can hold the flesh (or muscle ) completely responsible. But as far as Flesh (skin) VS the Flesh the physical (non spiritual) it doesn't really apply. |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 4, 2004 18:47:41 GMT -5
"Unless you believe the mind and flesh is one then maybe it will fly" ... BINGO! OMG "For instance molestation. Most molestors have a strong attraction in their flesh to little kids." That was a bad analogy lol. I only pick at you because you even have me going along with you because you are so adament and sure of your argument and the bold type and then womp womp womp. ;D Unless you believe the mind and flesh is one then maybe it will fly. Me not being a molester but a sensual being usually use senses, like sight, smell even touch which I then process through my mind and then become stimulated. More carnal beings like animals or molesters I'd assume the process would be a direct reaction physically (flesh) but it would still be a behavioral type thing. Unless it was involuntary like a spasm then we can hold the flesh (or muscle ) completely responsible. But as far as Flesh (skin) VS the Flesh the physical (non spiritual) it doesn't really apply. |
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Post by 1dell on Jun 5, 2004 8:14:38 GMT -5
Not so Kah, you keep running and leaving orangutang droppings at your 6 oclock hoping that I will slip in it. I give you examples and scenarios to explain a point, then you get caught all up in the scenario or example hoping to wiggle out of a situation hoping to gain some sort of leverage and I just follow you there. Because you then ask a series of questions and if I don't ansaar those questions you try to make it seem like I am evading an issue when the questions have nothing at all to do with the theme of the discussion so far this is what we have gathered -Paul didn't teach the gentiles to eat pork nor did he sanction the eating of pork or anything else unclean -Ya'aqob/James was the one who mandated that the goyim didn't need to be circumcised per acts 15 but you all want to blame paul for that. He was just fullfilling the mandate laid out by Ya'aqob. -Paul didn't teach the gentiles NOT to follow Torah, nor did he teach them to disregard teh holy days and feasts. He taught them just the opposte -Paul Taught the goyim Torah in Colossians 3 -Paul was speaking to both the jews and goyim of colossia in his epistle -Paul at times within the epistle paul does speak to the uncircumcised/goyim in particular 2:6 -The handwritting of ordinances and the law that Paul came against was the law of the pharisee, the same laws that Ishua came against -Paul is in perfect harmony with the teachings of Messiah as well as the prophets. What da prollem is?  You god damn punky brewster lookin mofo!! you the one that started goin off on a tangent! I only monkey doo what monkey cee! |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 5, 2004 8:27:33 GMT -5
nah! home skillete and we aint gather a damm thing! I done proved in Colosians Paul said them mofos nookas aint need to worry about eating unclean animals. It was all good cause they [unclean] were all recieved with thanksgiving - declared during the time of Peter's 6 oclock vision. Dont be tryin to bring some bamma about "WE" this and "WE" that! We aint agreed on nuttin yet homie!!   Not so Kah, you keep running and leaving orangutang droppings at your 6 oclock hoping that I will slip in it. I give you examples and scenarios to explain a point, then you get caught all up in the scenario or example hoping to wiggle out of a situation hoping to gain some sort of leverage and I just follow you there. Because you then ask a series of questions and if I don't ansaar those questions you try to make it seem like I am evading an issue when the questions have nothing at all to do with the theme of the discussion so far this is what we have gathered -Paul didn't teach the gentiles to eat pork nor did he sanction the eating of pork or anything else unclean -Ya'aqob/James was the one who mandated that the goyim didn't need to be circumcised per acts 15 but you all want to blame paul for that. He was just fullfilling the mandate laid out by Ya'aqob. -Paul didn't teach the gentiles NOT to follow Torah, nor did he teach them to disregard teh holy days and feasts. He taught them just the opposte -Paul Taught the goyim Torah in Colossians 3 -Paul was speaking to both the jews and goyim of colossia in his epistle -Paul at times within the epistle paul does speak to the uncircumcised/goyim in particular 2:6 -The handwritting of ordinances and the law that Paul came against was the law of the pharisee, the same laws that Ishua came against -Paul is in perfect harmony with the teachings of Messiah as well as the prophets. What da prollem is? |
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Post by 1dell on Jun 5, 2004 9:05:16 GMT -5
Dayum dude, I thought we done been there and done did that on that Kepa/Peter thing Dude, the 6th hour, NOT 6 oclock. lolol!! According to the Hebrews. the 6th hour is Noon 12:00pm dawg! lolol. Paul never refers to Kepa's vision so these have nothing to do with each other. Even Kepa innerstood that the vision had nothing do with eating the food but his relationship with the goyim and IHaWaH's acceptance of them. The scriptures plainly state that the vision came 3 times and EACH TIME the unclean beasts were taken up in the canopy and received back up into heaven. mean? drum roll please.....that Kepa NEVER killed and ate them. What is the significance of that? Kepa would not violate Torah even if the Most High told him to. Remember IHaWaH told Ykezekel/Ezekiel to make some barley cakes using human dung for fuel. Remember that? Ykezekal said "oh hellz naw, come on lawd, I don't do the unclean thing" what did IHaWaH do? He said ok ok, plan B, go ahead and use cow dung instead. Kah there is an old testament version of the Kepa thing right there. Do you think people around that time thought it was then ok to go around eating food cooked in human dung? OH HELL NO! nah! home skillete and we aint gather a damm thing! I done proved in Colosians Paul said them mofos nookas aint need to worry about eating unclean animals. It was all good cause they [unclean] were all recieved with thanksgiving - declared during the time of Peter's 6 oclock vision. Dont be tryin to bring some bamma about "WE" this and "WE" that! We aint agreed on nuttin yet homie!! |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 5, 2004 12:01:16 GMT -5
listen man! Im gone say this once so pay attention homes. Paul declares the OT was imagery of things to come. What things to come ? The epiphany of the god damn goyim! What this all mean punkey brewster looking nooka ? It means all the unclean foods were imagery of the unclean gentile nations. Each unclean animal rep. a specific gentile nation that was not in league wit big broham ishua (hold the onions). The two go hand in hand; You eat unclean foods, you are dabblin wit the affairs of gentile peeps. When Peter ate common food it was not only ref., to unholy gentiles. It was also ref., to unholy meats. This is your gr8 Paul. He turned shit upside down! Dayum dude, I thought we done been there and done did that on that Kepa/Peter thing Dude, the 6th hour, NOT 6 oclock. lolol!! According to the Hebrews. the 6th hour is Noon 12:00pm dawg! lolol. Paul never refers to Kepa's vision so these have nothing to do with each other. Even Kepa innerstood that the vision had nothing do with eating the food but his relationship with the goyim and IHaWaH's acceptance of them. The scriptures plainly state that the vision came 3 times and EACH TIME the unclean beasts were taken up in the canopy and received back up into heaven. mean? drum roll please.....that Kepa NEVER killed and ate them. What is the significance of that? Kepa would not violate Torah even if the Most High told him to. Remember IHaWaH told Ykezekel/Ezekiel to make some barley cakes using human dung for fuel. Remember that? Ykezekal said "oh hellz naw, come on lawd, I don't do the unclean thing" what did IHaWaH do? He said ok ok, plan B, go ahead and use cow dung instead. Kah there is an old testament version of the Kepa thing right there. Do you think people around that time thought it was then ok to go around eating food cooked in human dung? OH HELL NO! |
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Post by 1dell on Jun 5, 2004 13:07:54 GMT -5
Bro the reason Paul said they were a shadow of things to come is because the laws and festivals were prophetic and spoke of things relating to the future in the realm of eternity. Not to mention I'll say it again, Paul NEVER taught anyone to eat unclean meats. NO where in scripture can anyone bring this to me. listen man! Im gone say this once so pay attention homes. Paul declares the OT was imagery of things to come. What things to come ? The epiphany of the god damn goyim! What this all mean punkey brewster looking nooka ? It means all the unclean foods were imagery of the unclean gentile nations. Each unclean animal rep. a specific gentile nation that was not in league wit big broham ishua (hold the onions). The two go hand in hand; You eat unclean foods, you are dabblin wit the affairs of gentile peeps. When Peter ate common food it was not only ref., to unholy gentiles. It was also ref., to unholy meats. This is your gr8 Paul. He turned shit upside down! |
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Post by kAHANyAH on Jun 5, 2004 14:10:36 GMT -5
Begone! you damm taurean trapped in an aeries body you! Bro the reason Paul said they were a shadow of things to come is because the laws and festivals were prophetic and spoke of things relating to the future in the realm of eternity. Not to mention I'll say it again, Paul NEVER taught anyone to eat unclean meats. NO where in scripture can anyone bring this to me. |
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Post by 1dell on Jun 5, 2004 14:15:55 GMT -5
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Post by yahshuahdotcom on Jun 6, 2004 9:15:43 GMT -5
TEXTTEXTMan oh man it's a shame concerning what ICUPK has done as it pertains to Hebrew Israelites. One day they will have to give an account to all the apostacy teaching that comes from them. First of all, none of the apostles condoned the eating of unclean foods. Concerning why Israel was allowed to lend with usury to the other nations and of them selling unclean meats to the nations. Anyone, regardless of their ethnicity, who lived among Israel was subject to Yah's laws, statutes, and ordinances. Numbers 15:15 One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger that sojourneth with you, an ordinance for ever in your generations: as ye are, so shall the stranger be before YAH. Today, ANYONE that join themselves to Yah's covenant ALSO must obey Yah. The nations as a whole were apart from Yah's word and did not join themselves to Yah but worshipped their own deities. Isaiah 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to YAHWEH, to serve him, and to love the name of YAHWEH, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; 7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people. 8 YAHWEH ELOHIM, which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him. I can not only show that we, as a nation of priest are to be a LIGHT to the world, but ALSO, along with what I posted, the stranger shall have an inheritance among Israel. There is a distinction between those of the nations that join themselves to Yah, and those that are outside of Yah's covenant. Anyone that disagree with ANY of this post, or anything found on www.YAHSHUAH.com , feel free to contact me and we can debate this LIVE on PalTalk. Shalom
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Post by 1dell on Jun 6, 2004 10:04:14 GMT -5
Dayum Zeb, you recognize the ICUPUNK bull jank too huh?
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Post by Zakiah Levanah on Jun 6, 2004 10:31:22 GMT -5
Dayum Zeb, you recognize the ICUPUNK bull jank too huh? I was trying to find some pictures off there site to tease Kah with but its down. I found a Nazerene site with alot of links to other Hebrew & Jewish communities. They also seem to have a attitude with Hebrew Israelite. Check them out yall may find someone to debate or to recruit. www.imageyenation.com/Naza/dreadlinks.html |
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Post by 1dell on Jun 6, 2004 10:35:50 GMT -5
Wanna know some'n funny? I created that webpage. no lie. I created it back in 98 for my buddy El Keter Ben Tz'dik. He is a co founder of Illuminopolis that broke off due to conflicts between me and he. I am very familiar with his stance on thangs. He's the big chunky white dude with dreads.
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Post by GTOM on Jun 6, 2004 10:39:21 GMT -5
Hell Yeah its OK to eat Pork. Eating Pork is no different then eating Beef.
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there are some health issues related to it. Dont eat foods just because the Bible or Quran tells you. Eat them because you know the Health Facts about them. For years I was not eating Pork and eating Beef and Lamb. Come to find out the USDA fucked up all the MEAT.
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