It's ok to eat pork?

[1dell]

Here is something similar to what I am talking about but I don't think this is it. I am still looking though. I am at work so my search is limited:

Deu 12:20 When the LORD thy God shall enlarge thy border, as he hath promised thee, and thou shalt say, I will eat flesh, because thy soul longeth to eat flesh; thou mayest eat flesh, whatsoever thy soul lusteth after.

Deu 12:21 If the place which the LORD thy God hath chosen to put his name there be too far from thee, then thou shalt kill of thy herd and of thy flock, which the LORD hath given thee, as I have commanded thee, and thou shalt eat in thy gates whatsoever thy soul lusteth after.

Deu 12:22 Even as the roebuck and the hart is eaten, so thou shalt eat them: the unclean and the clean shall eat [of] them alike.

Deu 12:23 Only be sure that thou eat not the blood: for the blood [is] the life; and thou mayest not eat the life with the flesh.

Deu 12:24 Thou shalt not eat it; thou shalt pour it upon the earth as water.

Deu 12:25 Thou shalt not eat it; that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, when thou shalt do [that which is] right in the sight of the LORD.

Deu 12:26 Only thy holy things which thou hast, and thy vows, thou shalt take, and go unto the place which the LORD shall choose:

Deu 12:27 And thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, the flesh and the blood, upon the altar of the LORD thy God: and the blood of thy sacrifices shall be poured out upon the altar of the LORD thy God, and thou shalt eat the flesh.

[kAHANyAH]

stop everything mang! and just stay wit me on this for just a few min. Thats all I ask. I gotta repost this again. You didnt see it.

I want you to read this before you answer the above post...

• Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
  
• Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with [him] through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
  
• Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
  
• Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
  
• Col 2:15 [And] having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
  
• Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]:
  
  WHO WAS HE TALKING TO 1DELL ? WAS HE TALKING TO THOSE WHO KEPT THE LAW OR THOSE WHO DIDNT KEEP THE LAW. Just answer that for me. Do not start posting up scriptures,etc... . Just answer which group he was speaking to.
  
  thnx.

[1dell]

Here in these verses we have just about everything we have been talking about the last 2 days

1) how the Stranger and Sojourner are allow to offer to IHaWaH and their freedom within the Common Wealth of Ysra'al
2) Offering to God andit's conditions
3) Offering to demons forbidden

Lev 17:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

Lev 17:2 Speak unto Aaron, and unto his sons, and unto all the children of Israel, and say unto them; This [is] the thing which the LORD hath commanded, saying,

Lev 17:3 What man soever [there be] of the house of Israel, that killeth an ox, or lamb, or goat, in the camp, or that killeth [it] out of the camp,

Lev 17:4 And bringeth it not unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, to offer an offering unto the LORD before the tabernacle of the LORD; blood shall be imputed unto that man; he hath shed blood; and that man shall be cut off from among his people:

Lev 17:5 To the end that the children of Israel may bring their sacrifices, which they offer in the open field, even that they may bring them unto the LORD, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest, and offer them [for] peace offerings unto the LORD.

Lev 17:6 And the priest shall sprinkle the blood upon the altar of the LORD [at] the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and burn the fat for a sweet savour unto the LORD.

Lev 17:7 And they shall no more offer their sacrifices unto devils, after whom they have gone a whoring. This shall be a statute for ever unto them throughout their generations.

The other law is a clause to this should the house of the lord be too far to travel to.

[kAHANyAH]

stop everything mang! and just stay wit me on this for just a few min. Thats all I ask. I gotta repost this again. You didnt see it.

I want you to read this before you answer the above post...

• Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
  
• Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with [him] through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
  
• Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
  
• Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
  
• Col 2:15 [And] having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
  
• Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]:
  
  WHO WAS HE TALKING TO 1DELL ? WAS HE TALKING TO THOSE WHO KEPT THE LAW OR THOSE WHO DIDNT KEEP THE LAW. Just answer that for me. Do not start posting up scriptures,etc... . Just answer which group he was speaking to.
  
  thnx.

[1dell]

I'll let Paul ansaar that question for you bro:

Col 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timotheus [our] brother,


Col 1:2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace [be] unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Paul is Greeting both Jew and Gentile

next:

Lets look at some verses you left out:

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Now we know Messiah came teaching Torah no? and NOT the tradition of men. Ishua was against the tradition of men

Col 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

Col 2:19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.

Col 2:20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

Col 2:21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not;

Col 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

Col 2:23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.

Do you see Kah, Paul is coming against the doctrines of MEN not the Laws of God

Let NO MAN condemn you in the food you eat the liquid you drink regarding the feasts, new moons, and Sabbaths.

Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

What handwritting of ordinance were against them? That they could not partake in these things. I posted that where the uncircumcized strangers could not partake of the holy feasts.

kAH said:

stop everything mang! and just stay wit me on this for just a few min. Thats all I ask. I gotta repost this again. You didnt see it.

I want you to read this before you answer the above post...

• Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
  
• Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with [him] through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
  
• Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
  
• Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
  
• Col 2:15 [And] having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
  
• Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]:
  
  WHO WAS HE TALKING TO 1DELL ? WAS HE TALKING TO THOSE WHO KEPT THE LAW OR THOSE WHO DIDNT KEEP THE LAW. Just answer that for me. Do not start posting up scriptures,etc... . Just answer which group he was speaking to.
  
  thnx.

[1dell]

Sorry dude, I posted 2 things back to back before I got a chance to see your question. I am at work so I posted one thing took my 15 minute break and came back and posted another. I didn't see you asked me a question in between then. my bad.

[kAHANyAH]

damn 1dell!! you cant even follow a simple instruction mang which is showing me you are more about defending your position (whether its right or wrong) then having a healthy debate. Dude didnt you read my instructions ? I asked you specifically not to respond with any scripts. I asked you a simple question who was paul speaking to - those who were keeping the law or those who weren't. You didnt comply with neither one of my requests.

Does it make sense for me to continue at this point cause you aint even listening to me. You bent on guarding yourself from what you percieve as possible attacks from me. That means you are looking one way - to make sure all your tsss are crossed, all your i'ssss are dotted. Making sure you covering your end[ass]. With a mind like that, I cannot debate with 'cause its a one way street with you.

Now are you willing to play fair and just stay with me for a few minutes. Thats all I am asking. Is that hard to comply with ?

[1dell]

sigh. Dude, I am 1dell of the Wallace tribe. I do what I please. Fuck what I'm told. I see where you are going with this argument before you even get there. you are trying to pin me into something and I like to let the bible speak for itself.

Paul tells us who he is talking to Saints and Brethren. Guess who them brethren are?

Dude, I don't see why I gotta do what you say when you ignore much that I ask and say.

I ansaared your question but I will ansaar it MY WAY sorry. Know what you are getting yourself into before you want to cross blades with me.

I know exactly what you are trying to set me up with and so I anticipate your move and answer this question plus the next question you are thinking about asking. Plus ansaaring the question you didn't innerstand that lead you to ask the question you just now asked me.

Sorry bro, thats my style. I don't see any profit it doing it your way. Your way will take all dayum day asking me one question at a time.

Did you also know that there were also uncircumcised hebrews in the diaspora? Just because you read uncircumcised doesn't always mean gentiles.

kAH said:

damn 1dell!! you cant even follow a simple instruction mang which is showing me you are more about defending your position (whether its right or wrong) then having a healthy debate. Dude didnt you read my instructions ? I asked you specifically not to respond with any scripts. I asked you a simple question who was paul speaking to - those who were keeping the law or those who weren't. You didnt comply with neither one of my requests.

Does it make sense for me to continue at this point cause you aint even listening to me. You bent on guarding yourself from what you percieve as possible attacks from me. That means you are looking one way - to make sure all your tsss are crossed, all your i'ssss are dotted. Making sure you covering your end[ass]. With a mind like that, I cannot debate with 'cause its a one way street with you.

Now are you willing to play fair and just stay with me for a few minutes. Thats all I am asking. Is that hard to comply with ?

[1dell]

besides my ansaars are interwoven in what I say. thats how I test if people are reading my rebuttals. And you have proven to me time and time again that you dont read em or at least read thoroughly enough

[kAHANyAH]

what you are doing is called OBFUSCATING and basically you proved my point and my feelin about how you operate when your belief system is threatened. For you its not about fact finding or admitting truth.

Its about this is what I believe in and I will do everything in my power to defend it even if a truth confronts me right in my face! i'd rather duck, dodge and dive then having to admit a truth that contradicts my belief and maybe i am in ERROR.

And since this is the case (which I suspected with all of your dancing around in circles, bringin up new ish which had nothing to do with original ish) I wont waste your time nor mine.

Peace on the topic.

1dell said:

sigh. Dude, I am 1dell of the Wallace tribe. I do what I please. Fuck what I'm told. I see where you are going with this argument before you even get there. you are trying to pin me into something and I like to let the bible speak for itself.

Paul tells us who he is talking to Saints and Brethren. Guess who them brethren are?

Dude, I don't see why I gotta do what you say when you ignore much that I ask and say.

I ansaared your question but I will ansaar it MY WAY sorry. Know what you are getting yourself into before you want to cross blades with me.

I know exactly what you are trying to set me up with and so I anticipate your move and answer this question plus the next question you are thinking about asking. Plus ansaaring the question you didn't innerstand that lead you to ask the question you just now asked me.

Sorry bro, thats my style. I don't see any profit it doing it your way. Your way will take all dayum day asking me one question at a time.

Did you also know that there were also uncircumcised hebrews in the diaspora? Just because you read uncircumcised doesn't always mean gentiles.

[1dell]

Obfuscating? huh? where you learn that word from Derek? Is that where you new slew of heresy is coming from too?

Dude point blank if you so concerned about someone ansaarring someone then go back to our original argument in ILLUZion and ansaar the tons of questions that you left unansaared. I didnt' cry like a lil bitch when you avoided my questions now did ?

But you know what I like this method, I like this stategy. When you got your ass whooped cry like a lil bitch and complain about the person you are debating against and make it seem like they are evading shit so you can leave in a huff. Throw a tantrum as a smoke screen to save face with the dillusion that you are too ethical to continue.

thats some old tired bullshit! Get back in and fight!!! You ignored the rules of engagement so how the fuck are you gonna tell me not answer in scripture. Paul answered your fucking question so deal with it. Don't cry and run off having some sort of hissy fit.

And TRUST me all my i's are not dotted all my t's are NOT crossed. I left you enough room to move in that post! If I had crossed and dotted everyone dude, it would have taken 3 - 4 pages of info.

kAH said:

what you are doing is called OBFUSCATING and basically you proved my point and my feelin about how you operate when your belief system is threatened. For you its not about fact finding or admitting truth.

Its about this is what I believe in and I will do everything in my power to defend it even if a truth confronts me right in my face! i'd rather duck, dodge and dive then having to admit a truth that contradicts my belief and maybe i am in ERROR.

And since this is the case (which I suspected with all of your dancing around in circles, bringin up new ish which had nothing to do with original ish) I wont waste your time nor mine.

Peace on the topic.

[kAHANyAH]

MUHAHAHAH!!! LOL!!!! for real bros., I got nothin but broham and cheeze luv for ya man! you is one funny nikka!

Aight im ready to put on azz whoopin on ya!

Lets get back in the fray. The collosians chp I gave you was a letter from paul to those who weren't keeping the law of Moshe (whether it was jews or gentiles, I really dont give a rats ass). Now do you contest this ?

1dell said:

Obfuscating? huh? where you learn that word from Derek? Is that where you new slew of heresy is coming from too?

Dude point blank if you so concerned about someone ansaarring someone then go back to our original argument in ILLUZion and ansaar the tons of questions that you left unansaared. I didnt' cry like a lil bitch when you avoided my questions now did ?

But you know what I like this method, I like this stategy. When you got your ass whooped cry like a lil bitch and complain about the person you are debating against and make it seem like they are evading shit so you can leave in a huff. Throw a tantrum as a smoke screen to save face with the dillusion that you are too ethical to continue.

thats some old tired bullshit! Get back in and fight!!! You ignored the rules of engagement so how the fuck are you gonna tell me not answer in scripture. Paul answered your fucking question so deal with it. Don't cry and run off having some sort of hissy fit.

And TRUST me all my i's are not dotted all my t's are NOT crossed. I left you enough room to move in that post! If I had crossed and dotted everyone dude, it would have taken 3 - 4 pages of info.

[1dell]

whew that was close! I knew I could appeal to that inner Tauren. Like you be trying to play me I figured I could jank your chain a bit and make you stay.

So where we?

kAH said:

MUHAHAHAH!!! LOL!!!! for real bros., I got nothin but broham and cheeze luv for ya man! you is one funny nikka!

Aight im ready to put on azz whoopin on ya!

Lets get back in the fray. The collosians chp I gave you was a letter from paul to those who weren't keeping the law of Moshe (whether it was jews or gentiles, I really dont give a rats ass). Now do you contest this ?

[kAHANyAH]

LOL! Yea play on me nikka, but I am playing you too. We shall see who can manipulate the other better. . Aight where were weeeee..... Ah yes!! you were about to answer the question - the letter to the collosians by paul, was he writing to people who kept the law or weren't keeping the law (doenst matter if they were jews or gentiles to me so dont waste your time telling me they were jews. Just riddle me this, were they keepin the law)

1dell said:

whew that was close! I knew I could appeal to that inner Tauren. Like you be trying to play me I figured I could jank your chain a bit and make you stay.

So where we?

[1dell]

Are you telling me or are you asking me?

kAH said:

MUHAHAHAH!!! LOL!!!! for real bros., I got nothin but broham and cheeze luv for ya man! you is one funny nikka!

Aight im ready to put on azz whoopin on ya!

Lets get back in the fray. The collosians chp I gave you was a letter from paul to those who weren't keeping the law of Moshe (whether it was jews or gentiles, I really dont give a rats ass). Now do you contest this ?