what color is jewish?///

[1dell]

Yeah I guess white people could get darker but we aren't talking about a people that are white in color. insert sigh icon here. Beleive it or not Kah but certain languages have one word for something that will take us 3 words to say. Did you know that? And vica versa.

K'mar happens to be one of them. Used as slang K'mer can mean to grow darker from exposure to heat.

Why in the HELL would someone say "our SKIN has grown hot like the face of furnace because fo this famine"

Dude, when it's hot outside, hot as hell do we say "dayum shawdy my naked skin is hot from exposure to the sun." OH HELL NO!!!

we are obviously dealing with one of those famous hebrew idioms. We don't say My SKIN is hot. we say "dayum shawdy I'M hot denna mu fugga out chere." Don't no body say My skin is hot. BUTTTTT if my skin is getting DARKer because of the HEAT then you betta bet I am going to mention my skin. Why else did they mention their SKIN? makes no sense, if my skin is HOT all the rest of me is hot so why mention skin? I tell you why they mentioned it, because it was getting DARKER due to the heat.

kAH said:

1dell, you cannot! use the word as a description for skin colour!! NO!!!!!!!!!!! and you know you wrong but you is a skrake up aries RAM HEAD!!!!!

White folks can get dark also from sun/heat! its called a TAN! NOW WHAT! ?

[GTOM]

I dunno . What color is Latino?

[kAHANyAH]

1dell, the alchemy of dyes bros. . There is a red in flesh, red in flowers, red in clay, etc... the hebrews as well as all the poets of the old cultures would always use anything that had affinity when they wanted to do comparison. If I were an ancient white poet and wanted to describe my skin color , i could pull from examples like milk, bone, snow, etc...

1dell said:

I am so glad they mention rubies here. Tell me ONE dayum white person that is as red as a ruby? Show me ONE palestinian that is as red as a ruby bru

Here is a pic of a carved ruby incase you forgot the color of a ruby since you wanna be all specific like these people are refering to the ACTUAL color:

Dude I think you are missing my point. They are not saying these people are these ACTUAL colors. To different regions of the world, they related skin color to different things. Ruddy in Europe could be Santa Claus' complextion, Ruddy in Mexico will be seen differently.

We already have geographical proof that the hebrews were brown in color, So we can use US as black people as an example of how we use the word red or for when we refer to "redbones". I have went around asking different people what complextion they think I am. Because I am so used to people calling me dark skin and now they don't call me dark skin no moor, they say I am red. What da???

Besides your argument about why Are certain people singled out for being red if EVERY ONE was red aint strong enough bro. Out of all the people in the bible only 2 are mentioned as being red: Esau/David/Solomon and of the 3, 2 are father and son. come on bro. Obviously Being "Red" was a unique thing different from everyone else.

Like I said, According to the Murals in Egypt the ANCIENT hebrews were Brown in color. We ARE talkinga bout ANCIENT hebrews.

[kAHANyAH]

oh gosh! 1dell! they were gettin heat exhaustion because of the famine! they were spending more hrs. outdoors to get food!, havin to work many more hrs during the day!! They mentioned skin cause thats where you felt the SUN BURN!!!!

Just like slavery man! slaves got mad heat exhaustion from sun exposure because of the pro-longed hrs.!!!!

1dell said:

Yeah I guess white people could get darker but we aren't talking about a people that are white in color. insert sigh icon here. Beleive it or not Kah but certain languages have one word for something that will take us 3 words to say. Did you know that? And vica versa.

K'mar happens to be one of them. Used as slang K'mer can mean to grow darker from exposure to heat.

Why in the HELL would someone say "our SKIN has grown hot like the face of furnace because fo this famine"

Dude, when it's hot outside, hot as hell do we say "dayum shawdy my naked skin is hot from exposure to the sun." OH HELL NO!!!

we are obviously dealing with one of those famous hebrew idioms. We don't say My SKIN is hot. we say "dayum shawdy I'M hot denna mu fugga out chere." Don't no body say My skin is hot. BUTTTTT if my skin is getting DARKer because of the HEAT then you betta bet I am going to mention my skin. Why else did they mention their SKIN? makes no sense, if my skin is HOT all the rest of me is hot so why mention skin? I tell you why they mentioned it, because it was getting DARKER due to the heat.

[1dell]

Good point bro, about the science of colors and it's poet uses. Thats why I like the one about the Nazarites because it actually includes the standard of REDNESS of which they speak, the ruby tis why I included the pic of the ruby. looks closer to negro than whito to me bro.

Also their. HOLD UP!!! man how you let this one slip?:

Lam 4:8 Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.

Blacker than coal? Oh Lawd lemme check and make sure this aint K'merer than coal oh ok, yeah I am safe on this one

kAH said:

1dell, the alchemy of dyes bros. . There is a red in flesh, red in flowers, red in clay, etc... the hebrews as well as all the poets of the old cultures would always use anything that had the similar affinity when they wanted to do comparison. If I were an ancient white poet and wanted to describe my skin color , i could pull from examples like milk, bone, snow, etc...

[Kerhetmekheetatun]

kAH said:

Hmmm... to the interpretation. But one thing for sure, it aint talkin bout no COLOUR!!!! I'd say they were experiencing severe heat exhaustian because of the exposure to the sun. LIke a heat stroke. And another thing, in order for them to get this ill influence from the heat, they had to have been outdoors. Ask yourself why were they outdoors ?
/quote] Well it looks to me like they were run out of town and had no where to go but the wilderness.. okay.. how long were they there? I don't know that answer but they were orphaned, had to steal food, and would be killed if they got caught. They were sick and dying from starvation. I do not see where it mentioned "thirst and a hot sun" but they had no food.. You can imagine the diseases that followed.. Again, when you are sick, your body heats up hot like an oven, and from the other post that I put up about famine and what it does to the skin color could be an answer here but I do not think that this passage has anything to do with the initial question. What color is jewish?

[1dell]

hey you get no argument from me on that one bro, all I am asking is why are they mentioning skin? Why they say their skin is hot and not "I'm hot" by virtue of the fact they mention skin and heat in the same context means the skin is growing darker because of the heat as K'mer means to grow hot and grow darker from the heat. Man!! Where is my dayum Browns, Driver, Diggs Lexicon at?

kAH said:

oh gosh! 1dell! they were gettin heat exhaustion because of the famine! they were spending more hrs. outdoors to get food!, havin to work many more hrs during the day!! They mentioned skin cause thats where you felt the SUN BURN!!!!

Just like slavery man! slaves got mad heat exhaustion from sun exposure because of the pro-longed hrs.!!!!

[kAHANyAH]

im not gonna translate the whole hebrew for that verse. But the word where "black" is drawn from is kashack which is NOT AN ADJECTIVE!! its a verb - to grow dark. The "white" jew can still use this and claim they were tanning because of the many hrs. in the field working in the sun! because of the famine!!! and it goes with the verse prior to it, illustrating how one time they grew pale in their skin color [for not being in the field havign to work so much] until the famine.

1dell said:

Good point bro, about the science of colors and it's poet uses. Thats why I like the one about the Nazarites because it actually includes the standard of REDNESS of which they speak, the ruby tis why I included the pic of the ruby. looks closer to negro than whito to me bro.

Also their. HOLD UP!!! man how you let this one slip?:

Lam 4:8 Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.

Blacker than coal? Oh Lawd lemme check and make sure this aint K'merer than coal oh ok, yeah I am safe on this one

[kAHANyAH]

1dell because they were mystics and laced their plain words with mysteries. If you notice both skin [owr] and aura [ur] (light) are akin in hebrew. The mystery was showing the gradation and de-gradation of LIGHT which manifests in our SKIN COLOR.

1dell said:

hey you get no argument from me on that one bro, all I am asking is why are they mentioning skin? Why they say their skin is hot and not "I'm hot" by virtue of the fact they mention skin and heat in the same context means the skin is growing darker because of the heat as K'mer means to grow hot and grow darker from the heat. Man!! Where is my dayum Browns, Driver, Diggs Lexicon at?

[kAHANyAH]

Kat says : I do not see where it mentioned "thirst and a hot sun".

It does here -> Lam 5:9 We gat our bread with [the peril of] our lives because of the sword of the wilderness.

All the natural elements of the wilderness (the hebrews considered the desert a wilderness) that was harsh upon the human flesh were considered "sword of the wilderness"

KerhetMekheetAtun said:

kAH said:

Hmmm... to the interpretation. But one thing for sure, it aint talkin bout no COLOUR!!!! I'd say they were experiencing severe heat exhaustian because of the exposure to the sun. LIke a heat stroke. And another thing, in order for them to get this ill influence from the heat, they had to have been outdoors. Ask yourself why were they outdoors ?
/quote] Well it looks to me like they were run out of town and had no where to go but the wilderness.. okay.. how long were they there? I don't know that answer but they were orphaned, had to steal food, and would be killed if they got caught. They were sick and dying from starvation. I do not see where it mentioned "thirst and a hot sun" but they had no food.. You can imagine the diseases that followed.. Again, when you are sick, your body heats up hot like an oven, and from the other post that I put up about famine and what it does to the skin color could be an answer here but I do not think that this passage has anything to do with the initial question. What color is jewish?

[Kerhetmekheetatun]

Lamentations 4: 7 " Her Nazirites were brighter than snow and whiter than milk; They were more ruddy in body than rubies, Like sapphire in their appearance.
4:8 Now their appearance is blacker than soot; They go unrecognized in the streets; ect

[kAHANyAH]

Those verses show what the hebrews had to go thru. Once being white not having to work and they were so white from lack of sun exposure but when the famine hit them and now they had to go out into the sun and work, being exposed to the sunlight, etc...

KerhetMekheetAtun said:

Lamentations 4: 7 " Her Nazirites were brighter than snow and whiter than milk; They were more ruddy in body than rubies, Like sapphire in their appearance.
4:8 Now their appearance is blacker than soot; They go unrecognized in the streets; ect

[1dell]

High 5 Kerhet!

I REALLY need to find out where them pics of the hebrew slave are at!!!

KerhetMekheetAtun said:

Lamentations 4: 7 " Her Nazirites were brighter than snow and whiter than milk; They were more ruddy in body than rubies, Like sapphire in their appearance.
4:8 Now their appearance is blacker than soot; They go unrecognized in the streets; ect

[1dell]

I love having Mike Alstott of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as my avatar. Makes me wanna play some ball!!!! ALstott up da Gut!

[kAHANyAH]

1dell befor you start hi five'ing re-read the two verses. Its showing the before and after (plus the word "black" is incorrect. It should be becoming dark). The emphasis is on the fact the before or the gloriful state of these people prior to the famine and curse was WHITENESS IN SKIN. And after with the curse came the darkening of the skin. Ask yourself, why are they saying the glory is the "LIGHT" hue ?

1dell said:

High 5 Kerhet!

I REALLY need to find out where them pics of the hebrew slave are at!!!